Lets Get Rid of Kafirs Like Baitullah Mehsud

[Cheetah786]

Well I am not the best muslim so i believe i am going to hell but i hope these assholes are ther with me burning in the fire of hell.

But the only hope i have is that i dont go around killing innocent people.

it reminds me of ghalib when he said i no i am going to hell but i hope for a purpose He''God the Almighty'' will use me as a fuel to burn these Devils.

 

[jeypore]

What is more important to get ride of Baitullah Mehsud or the ideology that he is harbouring. I would say the ideology. And then no one has to go to hell for that!

 

[Omar1984]

What is more important to get ride of Baitullah Mehsud or the ideology that he is harbouring. I would say the ideology. And then no one has to got hell for that!

He's the BIGGEST criminal in Pakistan and needs to be brought to justice and he's also the leader of that ideology. Google "TTP Taliban".

 

[alirulesall123]

Baitullah Mehsud, just like everyone other islamist and shariah-monger, should be captured, tortured, and killed like the animal he is.

 

[DarkStar]

Baitullah Mehsud, just like everyone other islamist and shariah-monger, should be captured, tortured, and killed like the animal he is.

Baitullah mehsud is not an islamist, he is a terrorist.

Islam does not preach terrorism, nor does the Shariah prescribe it.

These people are defaming Islam and the Shariah.

Just because a nut job decides to justify his sick, barbaric, immoral actions through misinterpreting Islam, doesn't mean that we should brush all Islamic people with the same brush.

 

[wtf]

By calling Baitullah Mehsud a Kaffir you give him a partial victory.

Let me explain. Mehsud calls Pakistan an Apostate/Kaffir state and attacks it. In return some Pakistanis call him a Kaffir and claim to be non-Kaffir. Notice that the response already has bought in to the idea that some Muslims can turn into Kaffirs ? Now after you have made the statement that Mehsud is Kaffir, you have to go about justifying the cases in which Muslims can turn into Kaffirs etc. playing into his hands.

The other response, which does not give Mehsud a victory (And in my opinion more rational), is to say that anyone who follows the god and prophet is a Muslim and leave it to god to sort out who is more pious than the other.

Also claiming to rid Pakistan of someone "because he is a Kaffir" will lead to removing everyone henceforth labeled a Kaffir. Throw him out because he is a terrorist and a murderer not based on something impossible to judge.

Note: My knowledge of Islam is limited. I don't even speak Arabic. I have read some translated Quran/Hadith.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Is it a tragedy or a travesty---instead of focusing on how to get rid of Mehsud, the muslims of this board are arguing about the intricacies and subtleties of name calling. What a shame it is? Over there he is killing anyone and everyone without fail and prejudice and over here we are squabbling and whimpering about calling him a kafir. He is terrorizing the civil society---is invovled with killing chinese engineers---aand we have a fan club here who donot want him to be called in offensive manner.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Nah, u got me worng. He killed innocents, brainwashed youngers, carried out horrible attacks, that's the point why he isn't a Muslim imao.

Are you allowed to judge? Or only god can judge?(whether he's muslim or not).

Never heard anyone here call hafiz muhammad saeed a kafir. do u call him a kafir too? he's also done all the abovementioned things. albeit against 'kafirs'.

 

[niaz]

Do all members agree that he is a ‘Fitna’ and responsible for creating 'fassaad'? What do you think is the punishment for any one who creates ‘Fassaad’ in Islam?

It is the greatest tragedy for Pakistan that no matter what Taliban do to Pakistan or to Pakistanis, some people would still continue to harbor a soft spot for Taliban. Despite open admission by Baitaullh Mahsud that he planned this dastardly attack and would kill more Pakistanis, bleeding hearts would not come out openly in his condemnation. IMO it is because many people love Taliban more.

Do you guys have no sympathy for the victims of Baitullah Mahsud? Weren’t those killed by his agents Muslims? What is the punishment in Islam for the persons (Muslims or Kaffirs) who kill innocent Muslims? What crime had the police trainees committed that they were targeted by the TTP?

Good heavens! Would you see Pakistan totally destroyed before you guys realize that these people are devils incarnate and are enemies of Pakistan? Whether Kaffir or not, I pray to Allah with all my heart that Baitullah Mahsud and all his supporters rot in hell for eternity.

 

[Prince_of_Mistery]

Hi,

Is it a tragedy or a travesty---instead of focusing on how to get rid of Mehsud, the muslims of this board are arguing about the intricacies and subtleties of name calling. What a shame it is? Over there he is killing anyone and everyone without fail and prejudice and over here we are squabbling and whimpering about calling him a kafir. He is terrorizing the civil society---is invovled with killing chinese engineers---aand we have a fan club here who donot want him to be called in offensive manner.

Spot on.

We have to stop being politcally correct and get rid of this menace. In my opinion in the term this has to be done with force. But the longer term approach is abouting educating people and letting them think for themselves.

 

[hembo]

Hi,

Is it a tragedy or a travesty---instead of focusing on how to get rid of Mehsud, the muslims of this board are arguing about the intricacies and subtleties of name calling. What a shame it is? Over there he is killing anyone and everyone without fail and prejudice and over here we are squabbling and whimpering about calling him a kafir. He is terrorizing the civil society---is invovled with killing chinese engineers---aand we have a fan club here who donot want him to be called in offensive manner.

I agree. As per my humble opinion, Pakistanis will be better of if they don’t bring in the religious angle in these cases at all. Agreed that Pakistan was formed based on religion and fractions of the citizens want to embrace Islam as the complete way of life, including judiciary. However, from the experience of last 60 years, it is proven then the same is very difficult for the differences in interpretation by the various fractions. Also, one needs to follow one particular path if he or she has to reach their goal. One cannot take two path to a same destination. Either follow existing judicial system or CORRECTLY INTERPRETED shariar laws.

As far as this Meshud goes, he needs to be brought to justice immediately, either by capture or by elimination. But that will only be one small step towards curbing terrorism. Unless we can eliminate the extremist state of mind from people around the globe, someone or the other will remain the sufferer. As far as Pakistan goes, I still have high hopes that by eliminating all the terrorists and by uplifting the commoners (specially the tribal in border areas) it can come out of the mess it is in today. Also a tight and definite policy on the Afghan refugees is a must.

 

[Prince_of_Mistery]

I live outside Pakistan.

but what i see what is happening in pakistan makes me very angry.

The country that was created to for the muslim by the muslim and to tolerate all other faiths has become a base for the likes of baitullah mehsud.

islam does not preach hatred yet these people want to bring the faith peace thorugh fear.

dont they realise that the only way islam can be prached or brought to the non muslim is through peaceful means.

Our beloved Propghet was hated by many non muslim but they way he brought around non muslims was through love.

You will never change people thorugh hatred.

the only way to preach islam is through peaceful means

islam is religion of peace

we must all preach peace. thats what our religion is about peace and harmony.
no where in islam does it say that you change people through hatred and by killing non mulsim.

i hope these bastards who are killing innocent muslims understand this.

people like baitullah mehsud are not muslim.

they must not be called muslim because no muslim in there right mind would kill any innocent person wether they are muslim or not.

Therfor by right people like baitullah mehsud are Kafirs.

A kafir is someone who covers up the truth.

That what this man is doing.

you might say that this man has read the kalimah there fore by right we cannot call me a kafir.

but that what he is.

he does not belive in the true islam.

if he kills innocent people then he is a kuffar.

I hope he burns in the fire of hell with me.

i know i am bad muslim but one thing i do not do is kill innocent people.

we as muslim should repect all humanity.

allah see us as equal.

god bless you all

 

[Prince_of_Mistery]

Lets all get together and denounce these assholes.

who in the name of islam muder innocent civilians.

hope they rot in hell.

god bless ya all

 

[omerhhh]

Lets all get together and denounce these assholes.

who in the name of islam muder innocent civilians.

hope they rot in hell.

god bless ya all

Yes you are right these people are definately not Muslims.They say that the U.S is the enemy of Islam but so are they they should fight the U.S if they want but not like this.Killing innocent civilians,suicide attacks,opressing the people in swat all this is wrong and they all are condemned to hell for these actions.These groups are a threat to Pakistan and they are they are ruining the the reputation of Islam as a religion that teaches mercy and kindness
they must be eliminated from existance or one day Allah forbid it Pakistan will resemble Afghanistan.

 

[Prince_of_Mistery]

Yes you are right these people are definately not Muslims.They say that the U.S is the enemy of Islam but so are they they should fight the U.S if they want but not like this.Killing innocent civilians,suicide attacks,opressing the people in swat all this is wrong and they all are condemned to hell for these actions.These groups are a threat to Pakistan and they are they are ruining the the reputation of Islam as a religion that teaches mercy and kindness
they must be eliminated from existance or one day Allah forbid it Pakistan will resemble Afghanistan.

My friend Pakistan is already starting to resemble like Afghanistan. This menace to society needs to be elimenated.

As a Nation Pakistani People need back their Armed forces and not blame them for Killling our own brothers. The TTP are not our brothers they are vile criminals. Who think by terrorising we are spreading islam.

Islam was spread through peace and love not terror.

If these morons can give me one example where Agression has changed peoples perception favourable towards the agressor then i will support them.

These people are out to destroy Pakistan.

If the people of pakistan dont wake up now they will never ever be able to walk the streets of the cities peacefully.

I think we should Launch a full scale attack on these people and get kick out all the Arabs and afgani refugees out of Pakistan.

otherwise we wil never be able to eliminate them