Let's end this, please

[Zee-shaun]

Yes Sir. He is. He just made me cry

Been there done that. I was depressed for a couple of days when I first watched it.

 

[saiyan0321]

TBH we did not fight a real wars we are just stupids our cities did not face horror of war if we see documentaries and pics of WW1 and WW2 or even iraq syria afghan wars we learn how bloody destruction is war . we are in fact lucky people we have skirmishes on borders and we called them wars . why is EU nations now civilized ? because they faced real wars . 12000 British fighter bomber aircraft were destroyed in WW2 . while our whole war was with some 500 fighter jets

You know if you were to read the international theory on war you will realize that the conflicts we have fought don't come under any definition of "full scale war".

May we never ever experience the horrors of the European wars. Never!!! Forget world war even other conflicts during 1500-1945 were horrific and that is what war is.

 

[Imran Khan]

A very very fine observation. Why I have never thought before!!!

if you check the losses of major wars in term of money lives and equpment you will call indo pak wars a joke . let alone time 17 days or 20 days wars ? what a joke even USA take 42 days to took over afghanistan from taliban . our wars were border skirmishes . no major city like delhi mumbai lahore karachi even tier 2 or 3 cities face destruction of war . that is why we south asians have always pain in arse aching us to have war . because we never seen real war until now not even british era or before major wars on our land were fought some 300 years ago with swards and horses not with guns and tanks . countries here fight now years and years just look at iraq and syria they turned to be dust afghanistan was not even develop to be destroy this is matter of concern our govs should show public what war is . common people were rushing for food and water crying for medics and was eating even uneatable animals at war times . survival was a challenge . our chutiya public start crying if we have no power for 1 day or no water for 3 days how they will fight a war ?

look at it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_losses_in_World_War_II

 

[313ghazi]

Ek referendum se sub kuch hal ho jai ga.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

For what it's worth I am sick of guns, fighters, warships, tanks, ships, subs, helicopters ..... ! Trade, peace, welfare of the poor/sick, justice, equality for all in South Asia. Hell to everything else

 

[American Pakistani]

But as Saiyan sahib said, the motive of this thread was to diminish unwanted mindless animosity between both countries. We can discuss about solutions elsewhere.



An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.

Cheers Scorp

Fair enough. I got your point.

I just hope the root cause is fixed so there is complete end to this madness.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

May we never ever experience the horrors of the European wars.

We have amatuer wars. If we had just one 'European war' the entire South Asia would change. No more immature bluster. No more chest thumping. Maturity would set in.

 

[Imran Khan]

For what it's worth I am sick of guns, fighters, warships, tanks, ships, subs, helicopters ..... ! Trade, peace, welfare of the poor/sick, justice, equality for all in South Asia. Hell to everything else

why are you sick of our pride our public is proud of war machines

 

[Indus Pakistan]

why are you sick of our pride our public is proud of war machines

Pride should be invested in how we take care of our poor, our sick are taken care of, our children are educated, our weak recieve justice etc

Not bits of foreign made steel designed to kill ....

 

[scorpionx]

if you check the losses of major wars in term of money lives and equpment you will call indo pak wars a joke . let alone time 17 days or 20 days wars ? what a joke even USA take 42 days to took over afghanistan from taliban . our wars were border skirmishes . no major city like delhi mumbai lahore karachi even tier 2 or 3 cities face destruction of war . that is why we south asians have always pain in arse aching us to have war . because we never seen real war until now not even british era or before major wars on our land were fought some 300 years ago with swards and horses not with guns and tanks . countries here fight now years and years just look at iraq and syria they turned to be dust afghanistan was not even develop to be destroy this is matter of concern our govs should show public what war is . common people were rushing for food and water crying for medics and was eating even uneatable animals at war times . survival was a challenge . our chutiya public start crying if we have no power for 1 day or no water for 3 days how they will fight a war ?

look at it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_losses_in_World_War_II

This is actually good!! We can be hardcore assho*les when it comes to barking at each other but somehow we refrain from being mad dogs while fighting.

 

[Imran Khan]

We have amatuer wars. If we had just one 'European war' the entire South Asia would change. No more immature bluster. No more chest thumping. Maturity would set in.

lets say a small war
public have no more job
no more water
no more power
no more food supply for 3 years
50000 or 1 lakh lost lives
all major airports and sea ports destroyed
no more trade and travel


can we bear it? nah we can not we just think war will be far away from our home in jungles but in fact it will not as now artillry gun can fire 40 or 60km shells or MBRL can fire 100km rockets .war will be in our cities now .

 

[saiyan0321]

We have amatuer wars. If we had just one 'European war' the entire South Asia would change. No more immature bluster. No more chest thumping. Maturity would set in.

Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.....

Both nations need to learn how to reach maturity without killing millions and millions. This romanticism with war needs to end. This shining thought of conquerors and victory over the enemy and rightful annexations and the rise of nation that will be a world power. This needs to end on both sides.. Just bcz this is a military forum does not mean we keep asking for wars.

 

[Imran Khan]

This is actually good!! We can be hardcore assho*les when it comes to barking at each other but somehow we refrain from being mad dogs while fighting.

we even do not have that capability sir only we have nukes that is issue . we both do not have that big force .how can wwe loss 100000 fighter jets while we have total 2000 planes ? or 800 or 1000 ships ? while we have total 200 ships soviet loss 83500 tanks in WW2 we both have total 5000 tanks we are just barking dogs

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I felt more pride in Pakistan when I saw this report on PM IK opening shelter homes for the homeless in Pakistan then when the nukes were tested back in 1998. This is the sort of thing we should be taking pride in.

 

[Imran Khan]

Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.....

Both nations need to learn how to reach maturity without killing millions and millions. This romanticism with war needs to end. This shining thought of conquerors and victory over the enemy and rightful annexations and the rise of nation that will be a world power. This needs to end on both sides.. Just bcz this is a military forum does not mean we keep asking for wars.

if a real war of some 3 months happen both nations will become saint like Japanese public even without using nukes