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Let us stand by our soldiers in Kashmir

I stand by whats written below.


http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/let-us-stand-by-our-soldiers-in-kashmir/269266.html

The Army must be allowed to bring militancy under control to a point where those professing it realise that the time has come to talk. Yes, people will die in the ensuing action, then so be it. Kashmir is Indian territory. If those owing allegiance to Pakistan’s ISI continue to create instability, then they must face the music.

A few days ago, a picture was posted on Facebook showing a young CRPF jawan lying on the ground being kicked by gloating hooligans who believe they have the right to treat our security forces as such, and are the answer to Kashmir’s problems. That was for me a case of “enough is enough”.

These hooligans seem to believe that India will succumb to their macho instincts. By now they should have realised that Kashmir is a part of India, as Maharaja Hari Singh had signed the Instrument of Accession on August 18, 1947, long before they were born. That was then the condition laid down for all Indian princely states, and that signature made Kashmir an integral part of India, notwithstanding the regular hiccups from Pakistan or from their sympathisers in the Valley.


Recently, a mobile patrol of 14 RR near Bandipura was attacked. Tomorrow it may be some other military establishment. The headquarters of 15 Corps at Srinagar was attacked in the past. The pattern is consistent, when military activity is curtailed or subdued, militancy rises. History has on so many occasions shown us that unless the writ of the government is firmly established, negotiations are futile.


This phenomenon of the Valley turning out for a militant’s funeral will happen and will grow unless the government acts. The past is full of incidents which have strengthened militancy through appeasement. We today have Mehbooba Mufti as the Chief Minister, whose penchant for playing with fire is well established. We had militants being released in the past for her sister Rubaiya Sayeed; the first act of appeasement. Her father, Mufti Mohammad Sayeed, was then the Union Home Minister. We then had the Delhi-Kathmandu flight hijacked to Kandahar in 1999. Three prominent militants in custody were released, including Maulana Masood Azhar of the Jaish-e-Mohammad. This was followed by an attack on our Parliament in December 2001, with Azhar being the mastermind. Appeasement only leads to the strengthening of the militants’ morale, while demoralising that of one’s own forces


It was after the failure of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto’s Operation Gibraltar in 1965, that the ISI escalated its involvement in Kashmir. When the holy relic of the Prophet was stolen in Srinagar in 1964 and riots broke out, all that was required to quell the riots were four Punjab Armed Police battalions. Look at the force level today? This is not the fault of the Army or the other security forces, but a confused Kashmir policy that has brought the current situation to the fore. The Army can contain a situation to a point, it is then for the Government of India (GoI) to take whatever political initiatives are required. The trouble is that before the Army brings Kashmir to the point necessary for negotiations, dabbling commences and the first casualty is the Army itself.


Those who do not have any experience of counter-insurgency operations seem to comment the most and do untold harm to the system. These are not riots, as the PDP MP, Muzaffar Baig, would make us believe by quoting a Supreme Court ruling, but full-fledged insurgency. This procedure is not possible in a full-fledged battle and I believe, has not been the intention in the SC’s judgment.


The Army must be allowed to bring militancy under control to a point where those professing it realise that the time has come to talk. Yes, people will die in the ensuing action, then so be it. Kashmir is Indian territory. If those owing allegiance to Pakistan’s ISI continue to create instability then they must face the music. The Burhan Wanis may be the glamour boys for many, to India they are the perpetrators of violence and separatism. Let them not live with a mistaken belief that they have the upper hand.


The Government of India must allow freedom of action to the Army. The directive must be just one: “Bring a situation in the state where the writ of India runs and not that of the ISI”. Yes, in the ensuing clashes collateral damage will take place. No soldier likes such action. He is trained to face the enemy, not protecting his back against treacherous elements. We have had this experience in Nagaland, Manipur etc. The British army considered their Northern Ireland commitment prior to peace with the IRA, in the same light. It was the IRA which finally decided to talk peace when they could not face growing military pressure.


In such situations, the government must support any military action taken. Unfortunately, this has not been the situation. For instance, in Budgam when a car broke through a military checkpoint in November 2014, the soldiers manning the post opened fire, as was their duty. One officer and eight jawans were court-martialled and imprisoned. Penalising soldiers for doing what was expected of them is unacceptable. It is for the Chief and his Northern Army Commander to stand by their men in the difficult duty they are performing and not succumb to political pressures. A patrol was mobbed in the Qazigund area and an effort was made by the mob to snatch weapons from the soldiers, the patrol had to open fire to extricate itself, in which one man and two women were killed. The Army says it “deeply regretted” the incident and an inquiry has been ordered. This is ludicrous. Are we becoming an army of girl guides? What would have happened to the patrol leader had they managed to snatch the weapons? It seems the current policy is that you are wrong if you do and you are also wrong if you don’t – an absurd situation.


In the late 1950s, my battalion was in Nagaland. The orders were that no Naga would be dressed in khaki and would carry a weapon. One day, in the early morning mist an NCO-led patrol came across a Naga in khaki with what looked like a weapon (it was a staff). When challenged, he panicked and ran and the patrol opened fire killing him. It so happened, his daughter worked in the PMO. In the rumpus that followed, the PM demanded the battalion be disbanded. The Army Chief, General Thimmaya, refused to comply. He stood by his battalion and his NCO. Here we are today still serving the country. This is what the Army expects from our Chief and our Army commanders. It would be appropriate to end with a quote from President Obama’s statement on the recent violence against the police in Baton Rouge, Louisiana: “I want to be clear: there is no justification for violence against law enforcement. None. These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one. They right no wrongs. They advance no causes”. This in full applies to Kashmir.


The writer, the Congress MP from Amritsar, is a military historian.
Agree , we should back the soldiers. Political initiatives should be left to the govt. Forces should not be made as sacrificial goat. But the problem with govt is they have behaved in worse manner like IPKF fiasco when providing support to military. Govt takes the credit for good stuff and blame is heaped on military. They should follow a consistent line against terrorists and terrorism. Govt can roll on the ground with political appeasement & buffoonery without involving military.
 
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What is the reality?
It is a pure case of the disenfranchised being treated worse rather than being empowered. The ISI could not do jack in Kashmir what India and its populous have done to Kashmiri Muslims by distancing and leaving them underdeveloped.
Kasmiris had their fair share from the recent economic boom in India.
The Indian govt as well as the govt of the state of Jammu and Kashmir have done some tremendous efforts to integrate local Kasmiris with the mainland population.
We have an civil services topper from Kashmir and the constant reports about the Kashmiri youth joining the army are only a few examples.
Whats more needed is to try and bring the separatists to the table and have their participation in the representative democracy. The separatists so far have only used the local Kashmiri youth and their sentiments towards Islam as their political agenda against India and the state govt.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/the...-from-harms-way/2016/07/17/article3532723.ece
 
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If you will have a continuous presence of armed forces without any political initiative this will go on for another 50 years Kashmiri youths will die by pelting stones or by picking up the gun.
Only thing it will achieve will be permanent hatred of India.
 
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What is the reality?
It is a pure case of the disenfranchised being treated worse rather than being empowered. The ISI could not do jack in Kashmir what India and its populous have done to Kashmiri Muslims by distancing and leaving them underdeveloped.

Being a Pakistani, it would be difficult for you to accept something that most Indians are coming to terms...finally. And our State's response will change slowly now onwards.

Kashmir is not a case of being underdeveloped. Its a case of psychology and religious leanings.

Arunachal Pradesh in NE India is also under developed (blame the politicians and what not), but you don't see them waving ISIS flags and slaughtering Hindus or Christians or Budhists and throwing them out of the state like the Kashmiris did with Hindus.

Its a question of being blunt - Most Kashmiris are ISIS and Caliphate lovers. Even if you get USA to build them the best of facilities, they would be blowing it up and ask for Shariah and jihad and what not.
 
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Go ahead who is stopping you. You indian throw loads of crap when these Indian pundits live like royalty compared to Kashmiri Muslims. There are special incentives being given to them so they can change demographics of Kashmir to Hindu majority. So spare me your rhetoric's.
Actually, Kashmiris are one who are getting special incentives from Central govt, in every major institution a good number of seats is reserved for them & huge amount of scholarship they get, I really hope everyone in India get such incentives.
 
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Kashmir is not a case of being underdeveloped. Its a case of psychology and religious leanings.

Article 370 is a millstone around the neck of those in J&K

What we see is only Govt spending. If removed & when the Pvt Sector steps in the everything will change.

But.. if only.
 
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Article 370 is a millstone around the neck of those in J&K

But.. if only.
That will not happen short of a national catastrophe in Kashmir which could force Govt. of J&K to pass a resolution.
 
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Radical solution to Kashmir-
1 Remove article 370
2 Give incentives for indians from other parts to start business and settle down in the valley.
3 Make kashmir economically dependent on the rest of India.
4 use settlements to dilute the presence of radical muslims and Pakistan / ISIS sympathisers
 
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India is the only country where it's military is abused by few of it's ungrateful citizen.
India is the only country where in it's universities deaths of it's soldiers is celebrated.
India is the only country where terrorists are eulogized.
India is the only country where rights of terrorists is more important than the plight of it's soldiers.
India is the only nation where anti-nationals are not out rightly rejected, instead celebrated as "intellectuals".

It's not the fault of these people who are abusing our military.
IT IS THE FAULT OF YOU AND ME WHO ARE LETTING THIS HAPPEN.
 
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The muslim ruler of Junagard wanted the state to join the hindu populated state to join Pakistan, but India sent in army and occupied Junagard, while in Jammu & Kashmir the ruler was a hindu with 90% muslim population, also here India sent their forces and occupied the state against the will of the local people, we therefore dont accept Jammu & Kashmir as part of India , but a part of Pakistan. India knows this fact well. This part of British India was obvious part of new Pakistan, as the pakistani and Kashmiri wanted, but India sent inn army and started this decades old conflict.

Pakistani people orignally wanted good relationship with the new state of India, but by occupying muslim areas which was oing to Pakistan, India layed foundation to future conflicts. Til J & K isnt given up by India , there can never be peace or friendship between India & Pakistan.
 
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The muslim ruler of Junagard wanted the state to join the hindu populated state to join but India sent in army and occupied Junagard, but in Jammu & Kashmir the ruler was a hindu with 90% muslim population, also here India sent their forces and occupied the state against the will of the local people, we therefore dont accept Jammu & Kashmir as part of India , but a part of Pakistan. India knows this fact well.

You guys are welcome to claim the Moon too as a apart of Pakistan.

It makes no difference whatsoever .
 
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You guys are welcome to claim the Moon too as a apart of Pakistan.

It makes no difference whatsoever .
I think our claim is already stronger there as well. We have put our flag on the moon as well. :lol:
 
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Well I think we can blame our politicians and so called "Intellectuals" for this........ They find it perfectly alrite to blame armed forces, because in India no one is going to complain about it..... Actually the problem is with the morons sitting in delhi and Srinagar (the leaders or the politicians) and it is the army which has to take the blame.... and our leaders are happy to be in this situations as they are not criticised or their inability to handle this situation is not been discussed.... It is the army or the CRPF or the Kahsmiri police's brutalities.......

Sir,
my belief is that the accession of J&K with Indian union wasn't done in a manner as say Junagadh or Hyderabad, leaving a lot of problems. Somebody (i don't want to take names) obviously thought to leave this problem for future generations to solve. Alas, nothing happened and situation has turned from bad to worse.
IMHO, till article 370 remains, we can never expect the problem to get solved.
 
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The same comedic articles followed by the same indian B.S of removing articles and filling The Kashmiris homeland with black biharis

Everything except understanding that the Kashmiris have a right to determine their future
The UK was at risk of losing half their state yet they still gave Scotland a referendum because the call from the people was overwhelming


The worlds so called biggest democracy is intent on forcing itself on people who hate its occupation
 
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