LET NOT FORGET WESTERN SAHARA AND THE MOROCCAN OCCUPIER

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Copenhagen — POLISARIO Representative in Denmark Mr. Abba Malainin has today held talks in the Danish Parliament (Folketinget) with Mr. Christian Juhl, member of the Danish Parliament and Foreign Affairs Spokesman of the Red-Green Alliance Party.

During the meeting, the Saharawi Representative voiced concerns of the Saharawi side about the recent Moroccan army escalation in occupied Western Sahara.

These deep concerns were expressed recently by the President of Republic, Secretary General of the Polisario Front, Mohamed Abdelaziz, in a letter to the UN Secretary General, Mr. Ban Ki-moon.

"We express our concern and warning that the Kingdom of Morocco may be on the verge of conducting a blatant attack on the liberated territories of Western Sahara, in which Sahrawi army troops, administration, civilian citizens, and the United Nations centers are based," said the President of the Republic.

"The Moroccan State proceeded to assemble and mobilize its army in an unprecedented serious and striking development since the signing of the cease-fire between the Moroccan and Sahrawi armies," he added.

President Mohamed Abdelaziz emphasized if this action happened it would be a "violation of the cease-fire in effect between the Polisario Front and the Kingdom of Morocco since September 6, 1991".

The member of Danish Parliament said that he will draw the attention of the Danish Government to the Moroccan army recent escalation in occupied Western Sahara.

It worth mentioning here that Denmark's Parliament adopted recently new policy on Western Sahara.

The Danish Parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee adopted recently by a majority of the Parties a report in which it supports the efforts of the United Nations that will lead to self-determination referendum on the status of Western Sahara,calls on to provide the UN Mission for the Referendum inWestern Sahara (MINURSO ) with a mechanism to monitor human rights situation in Western Sahara, recommends the Danish governmental institutions and companies not to buy products from Western Sahara, and demands from the Danish Government to consider and start providing humanitarian aid to the Saharawi refugees in Algeria.

It worth mentioning also here that 4 Danish municipalities have recently stopped the purchase of Salt from occupied Western Sahara.

 

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@Ceylal
Have you asked youself why so many spanish foundet Civil Society Organisations are active in western Sahara ? Do you believe they will do something good for the people of western Sahara, or will they only splitting the Muslims and hold a Conflict in Live ? Spain will play out Morocco and Algeria against each other and will get ressources for a cheap Price !

The Spanish government is, like France, tilting for the Moroccan option, while while spanish NGO's are for the independance of the Sahrawi.

Algeria's foreign policy regarding the Western Sahara is clear and is for a full independence as it is recorded .in the United Nation, irrelevant of the Spanish government position.
The only think that can change the position of Algiers toward Morocco's aggressive belligerence toward Algeria, is for Morocco to cross the red line in the sand, ie a direct attack on the Algerian territory. Nothing beside that will push Algeria to retaliate, at least while Bouteflika is her president.

 

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@Babur Han
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This is not news. Most the arab and Muslims countries do not recognize the W. Sahara, even the Algerian Party of Muslim obedience refuse to clarify their positions on the matter. For the Algerian Government and the Algerians at large are overwhelmingly for an independent Western Sahara, and Morocco has to realize that his occupation will come to an end.
they are a lot influent citizens and high ranking army officers that are voicing their voice on Bouteflika's lenient policies toward Morocco's onslaught carried by her Prime and her Foreign ministers on top of the large quantities of drugs that are thrown at our borders...

 

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Racism in Morocco: Tangier, an anti-migrant pogrom left at least one dead


In Tangier, many migrants hoping to cross to Europe. © AFP
In Tangier, a wild expedition led by Moroccans against migrants in fact at least one death, on August 29. A drama that offers new light on the problem of racism in the kingdom.

On the night of August 29, 2014, sub-Saharan Africans living in the neighborhood Boukhalef in Tangier, were attacked in 22 hours by a group of Moroccans armed with knives, machetes and knives, requiring them to leave the places on the grounds that their presence is undesirable. Woe to those who try to resist. Charles Alphonse N'Dour, a Senegalese national, was fatally stabbed in the neck. The attacker wanting to seize the body of the deceased compatriots oppose it. One Abdou Niang is defenestrated the second floor. Which earned him a broken leg.

 

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Stateless Barbarians must not be granted their freedom.

Slaughter Barbarian rats Arab king

Very Nice. Western Sahara = Morroco.
Algeria is only screaming western sahara to hide it's internal problems and gain access to the atlantic coast, algerians are racists if they get their hands on the sahrawi people they would treat them as bad as they treat their own native tuareg population if not worst.

 

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Valérie Trierweiler reveals how the King of Morocco corrupts French political leaders

Nicolas Sarkozy and Mohammed VI in Rabat.
During the funeral's ceremony of Nelson Mandela, in relaxed conversation with Holland, "Sarkozy outlines his exquisite property that the king of Morocco provides for his family."The dishonorable fact for the Moroccan king and at the same time reveals the connivance of Paris with Rabat, as reported by Valérie Trierweiler, as a former girlfriend of President François Hollande - in her bookThanks for that moment , which wreaked havoc in France currently. This little phrase has a great significance. It confirms the collusion between the Elysee and makhzan and above shows that the French power, whether left or right, maintains a narrow v relationship with the Moroccan monarchy, built on corruption and interests concerning the least, the people of both countries.French leaders consider Morocco as part of France, the proof is precisely given by the fact that they are behaving as if they were at home. "The exquisite property" that Sarkozy speaks is certainly a large estate that bears its name, Jnane Lekbir, located three kilometers from Marrakech, belonging to Mohammed VI of course, where the former French president stayed in March 2013, with Carla Bruni. Some months later, during the summer, Chirac was received in the royal residence , with what would his wife Bernadette, called, spacious and walled to ensure discretion. It's a difficult business for the Elysee to maintain as faux are too many , such as when the Spanish actor Javier Bardem recounted bluntly what thought Morocco's French Ambassador, in the United States: "Morocco is a mistress with whom we sleep every night, not particularly by love of her, but we have to defend. "But the most important for the Makhzen is that France gives real protection to Morocco. It is the consideration offered to the king's largesse. Everyone has come to understand why French officials overlook, the makhzen human right abuses of her own citizen and that of the Sahrawis.

 

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Association of Solidarity with the Saharawi People - Lorraine

 

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Morocco put his Air force on extreme alert. (echoroukonline.com)

 

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First of all is not our battle..and the Sahrawis are doing just fine on their own...They are capable of wiping his Majesty royal forces. They did it before when they had nothing to fight with, and they do it again now if they chose to.
If it was our problem, we would have have sent his majesty to your kingdom .

Let me tell you that you are a bit too arrogant, I ignore your reasons for being like that. but you are ropagating some very false information here.
First you started saying that Morocco occupied the Sahara by force, and there is no information on your part to be found about the Green March, where 350 000 Moroccan civilians marched on it to liberate it from Spain (I still remember it, since it made world headlines), with an ultimatum to go to war if necessary. Algeria capitalized on that and was quick to arm and train the Polisario, and thus started the armed conflict. Morocco at that time -1975- was a developing country called the little dragon of North Africa, the Sahara war initiated by Algeria, drained much of the Moroccan economy at that time and put a halt to its development. Algeria was still considered a third world country at that time (although it is a developing one today).
there were real battles between the Algerian and the Moroccan armies, Algeria aided with its own armed Polisario won! the the first round, since Morocco was not well armed in any branch of its armed forces. When the latter started arming itself with the latest weapons, Algerian and the Polisario lost the war after 17 years of it,,and had to stop it. Although some very minor skirmishes persisted in the Sahara afterwards, but that was stopped too by the Moroccan army.
The Arrogance and falsities you are spreading, Originates with a conflict in your minds, where you believe in "Popular Republics", a socialist (communist) ideology, you live in the US the most capitalist state in the world , and you chose to ignore that Morocco has been ruled by kings for more than 500 years, with the oldest monarchy in the world, it went through all the changes, colonization, and world events as Algeria, but never gave up its political system. If that is not a sign of a population strength of will, than there is nothing else to convince you.
You say Algeria has nothing to do with the conflict (a blatant lie), while even the flag of Polisario bears the Algerian flag in it !!!.
I have heard stories from Moroccans, when General Oufqir, demanded permission from King Hassan the second to let him raid the Algerian capital and he swore to bring back to him the head of the Algerian president at that time, but the king refused.
This General who became the defense minister, and the supreme commander of the Moroccan armed forces (A position usually held by the king himself), had a reputation since the Vietnam war where he distinguished himself as a young French commando captain (probably the foreign legion) by some extraordinary commando raids and tactics against extraordinary Vietnamese troops, meaning this guy has credible credentials by experience.
The point is do not be arrogant against a foe who has defeated too many powerful armies in his history, and helped Algeria regain its independence ( you can read about Abdel karim Al khatabi war on two fronts against the French and the Spanish colonizers in Northern Morocco as well as in Northern Algeria).
The point is, in my own opinion, that the western Sahraoui people can chose to live either in Algeria, Morocco or in the Sahara,for the sake of their own well being and the well being of North Africa, since they are the major obstacle to the Maghreb union where they belong and should facilitate this union if they were true Muslims and not something else. They are about 100 000 and want to control a land the size of Morocco, while for a very long time their ancestors lived within Morocco as full fledged Moroccan citizens, till the events of the colonization by Spain and France when they splinted the Moroccan territory between them, Spain took the the North (With Sebta and Mellila today as "still" reminders) and the south which is the western Sahara that Algeria and Polisario are claiming as theirs. While the French took the rest for some 45 years. So if they were ever independent, what was called their country?

 

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(With Sebta and Mellila today as "still" reminders)

Ceuta is Spanish since 1580 and before that is was Portuguese since 1418.It's not Morrocan for 600 years .

Melila is Spanish since 1497.

In both cases inhabitants of these 2 cities want,with an overwhelming majority, to be part of Spain and they are de facto part of Spain for over 500 years.There is no dispute or colonisation here,Morocco should put the issue to rest as it's pointless.

 

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Ceuta is Spanish since 1580 and before that is was Portuguese since 1418.It's not Morrocan for 600 years .

Melila is Spanish since 1497.

In both cases inhabitants of these 2 cities want,with an overwhelming majority, to be part of Spain and they are de facto part of Spain for over 500 years.There is no dispute or colonization here,Morocco should put the issue to rest as it's pointless.

You must be geographical blind or something, both cities are in Morocco, but Morocco is not claiming them yet, as well as the canary islands. It might take war or wisdom, but they will eventually be reclaimed by the Moroccans, like in the case of Western Sahara where Spain had to leave. It is a question of time. If they were not reclaimed yet, it is because they contribute to the local economy in the North, and the Moroccans didn't have to travel to Spain to buy western goods, there is a big black market in those two cities, as most Moroccans I know told me.

And by the way, you have just jumped 900 years of Spain's history under Muslim rule comprising the period you have mentioned !!!

 

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Let me tell you that you are a bit too arrogant, I ignore your reasons for being like that. but you are ropagating some very false information here.

I am talking facts and the only one ropagating false information, is you, and the only thing you have to do, is do some research since informations abound, on any aspect of the W Sahara and Morocco.

First you started saying that Morocco occupied the Sahara by force, and there is no information on your part to be found about the Green March, where 350 000 Moroccan civilians marched on it to liberate it from Spain (I still remember it, since it made world headlines), with an ultimatum to go to war if necessary.

To liberate what? The Sahrawi where already fighting the Spaniard and it is under that situation that Spain left. Morocco, just like a magpie, waited for someone to built a nest to move in it.

Algeria capitalized on that and was quick to arm and train the Polisario, and thus started the armed conflict. Morocco at that time -1975-

False. It was Lybia who armed the Sahrawi. Algeria didn't get involved until later after her troops who went to ferry Sahrawi elders fleeing Moroccan bombs ans nepalm, were attacked. It was after Amgala I that Algeria took an interest in the Sahrawi by training them and turned a loosely band of guerillas into a fighting force. And contrary to your believe or what corrupted information you have read, it was a fight that Morocco was loosing which push Hassan II to agree to ceasefire after Tan Tan, a southern Moroccan town fell to the Sahrawi.

Morocco,was a developing country called the little dragon of North Africa, the Sahara war initiated by Algeria, drained much of the Moroccan economy at that time and put a halt to its development. Algeria was still considered a third world country at that time (although it is a developing one today).

Morocco was neither a dragon nor a developping country, she a was poor North Africain ,then like she today. War made it harder for , not because of Algeria, but due to its colonial policies and her esprit of grandeur that she think it is owed to her.

There were real battles between the Algerian and the Moroccan armies, Algeria aided with its own armed Polisario won! the the first round, since Morocco was not well armed in any branch of its armed forces. When the latter started arming itself with the latest weapons, Algerian and the Polisario lost the war after 17 years of it,,and had to stop it. Although some very minor skirmishes persisted in the Sahara afterwards, but that was stopped too by the Moroccan army.

Bullshit...They were two skirmishes...the first one known as Amgala one where a convoy of army trucks in their way to bring Sahrawi elders and women fleeing the bombs of Moroccan aircraft was intercepted by Moroccan troops, a fight ensued and 200 Algeriens troops were taken prisoners. 3 weeks later, an Algerian expedition team went back to Amgala, decimated the Moroccan batallion that attacked the Algerian troops and came back with a countless captives that were liberated after Bouteflika took power.

The Arrogance

Yes we are arrogant, because we can, and we paid a colossal price to earn the right to be arrogant.

and falsities you are spreading, Originates with a conflict in your minds, where you believe in "Popular Republics", a socialist (communist) ideology, you live in the US the most capitalist state in the world , and you chose to ignore that Morocco has been ruled by kings for more than 500 years, with the oldest monarchy in the world, it went through all the changes, colonization, and world events as Algeria, but never gave up its political system. If that is not a sign of a population strength of will, than there is nothing else to convince you.

What are you babbling about? Everything I have posted on the subject can be verified...Use your brain and start pecking at the key bords, or libraries, I know Canada has a lot of them at least in two languages..Since French is spoken and written in Morocco as well as in Algeria, you shouldn't lack of materials..

You say Algeria has nothing to do with the conflict (a blatant lie), while even the flag of Polisario bears the Algerian flag in it !!!.

Don't be ridiculous..Look at MENA's country flag, all of them have one or many similar items in them, a star, a croissant, a red , white, green or a black band in them...You think that Sahrawi are brain dead that they have to hire someone to devise a flag for them?

I have heard stories from Moroccans, when General Oufqir, demanded permission from King Hassan the second to let him raid the Algerian capital and he swore to bring back to him the head of the Algerian president at that time, but the king refused.
This General who became the defense minister, and the supreme commander of the Moroccan armed forces (A position usually held by the king himself), had a reputation since the Vietnam war where he distinguished himself as a young French commando captain (probably the foreign legion) by some extraordinary commando raids and tactics against extraordinary Vietnamese troops, meaning this guy has credible credentials by experience.

I guess hashish was pleintiful during those long discussions...Morocco couldn't stand the Algerian push when they were just guerillas coming straight from the mountains.. Oufkir, was a french supletif that hasn't amount to too much, and you want to know a little more about him, read the book that his daughter wrote...

The point is do not be arrogant against a foe who has defeated too many powerful armies in his history

Name one!

, and helped Algeria regain its independence ( you can read about Abdel karim Al khatabi war on two fronts against the French and the Spanish colonizers in Northern Morocco as well as in Northern Algeria).

Bullshit! It was Algeria and the Algerians that bear all the fight, in North Africa, And if Morocco is semi independant today, it is because of the Algerian blood.

The point is, in my own opinion, that the western Sahraoui people can chose to live either in Algeria, Morocco or in the Sahara,

Why don't you ask your Moroccan friends who has been backpedaling on that matter. Morocco refuse to let the Sahrawi to choose between full independance or to live with Morocco, the only two question on the ballot that H2 the king father agreed to.. From the passing of H2, Morocco reneged on that , and offered only one choice autonomy under Moroccan sovereignty .

for the sake of their own well being and the well being of North Africa, since they are the major obstacle to the Maghreb union where they belong and should facilitate this union if they were true Muslims and not something else.

The decolonisation of the Sahara is a UN agenda, it does have nothing to do with Algeria. Algeria has no claim whatsoever on that territory. If the UMA fail to mature, it because of Morocco, not Algeria.

They are about 100 000 and want to control a land the size of Morocco, while for a very long time their ancestors lived within Morocco as full fledged Moroccan citizens,

Bullshit ! That territory were never Moroccan and Moroccan authority never passed Sebta. In fact if Morocco proper benefited from the Sahrawi, it is they that chased the Spaniard from the south of Morocco.

To resume this:
Informations about the conflict abound and all you have done is laid a mythical egg, already fried and refried by the Makhzen...Western Sahara was never a Moroccan territory, the international court of the Hague acknowledged it in one of her judicial rendering. All the Moroccan allies ie the US, France and Spain doesn't recognize the appartenance of the WS to Morocco. If Algeria had any claim on that territory, it would have been solved long time ago.

 

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I am talking facts and the only one ropagating false information, is you, and the only thing you have to do, is do some research since informations abound, on any aspect of the W Sahara and Morocco.


To liberate what? The Sahrawi where already fighting the Spaniard and it is under that situation that Spain left. Morocco, just like a magpie, waited for someone to built a nest to move in it.

False. It was Lybia who armed the Sahrawi. Algeria didn't get involved until later after her troops who went to ferry Sahrawi elders fleeing Moroccan bombs ans nepalm, were attacked. It was after Amgala I that Algeria took an interest in the Sahrawi by training them and turned a loosely band of guerillas into a fighting force. And contrary to your believe or what corrupted information you have read, it was a fight that Morocco was loosing which push Hassan II to agree to ceasefire after Tan Tan, a southern Moroccan town fell to the Sahrawi.

Morocco was neither a dragon nor a developping country, she a was poor North Africain ,then like she today. War made it harder for , not because of Algeria, but due to its colonial policies and her esprit of grandeur that she think it is owed to her.


Bullshit...They were two skirmishes...the first one known as Amgala one where a convoy of army trucks in their way to bring Sahrawi elders and women fleeing the bombs of Moroccan aircraft was intercepted by Moroccan troops, a fight ensued and 200 Algeriens troops were taken prisoners. 3 weeks later, an Algerian expedition team went back to Amgala, decimated the Moroccan batallion that attacked the Algerian troops and came back with a countless captives that were liberated after Bouteflika took power.

Yes we are arrogant, because we can, and we paid a colossal price to earn the right to be arrogant.

Too many false facts and much subjectivity to be worth an answer.

 

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I support Algeria as Morrocco is the paradise for the JEWS

Rabbi shelters in Morrocco after beeing pursued in Israel

Un rabbin ultra-orthodoxe accusé de viol réfugié au Maroc - Afrik.com : l'actualité de l'Afrique noire et du Maghreb - Le quotidien panafricain

That is one Jew, Morocco acts as transit place, like in the case of the Shah of Iran and others.

of course, coming from you...remember the Moroccan folks saying....Dharbouna wa B'kaw ( they beat us and cried) sebouna wa ch'tkaw( they insult us and complained) you are true to yours roots, but instead of arguing with a sane, I am doing it with a bhim.
You must dig this one out your @ss
The only thing you need to see is those videos that you posted, and you will see you have been licked in the south and you had to beg to get back Oujda in the North that was taken...Our guys went trough it like a hot knife in a block of butter...

We can tame your FAR, with our firefighters..Don't go their...I Morocco, was our aim, you won't last a morning...




What Syria is going thru now, we went thru it too...We broke their spine in the country and we laminated in your country, You caught that, inside Moroccan territory, without a murmur from your famous troops , famous for molesting young Congo's pupils. Your army has no honor or dignity , just like like the one who is ruling you...

The rest is just bla bla...

You think that you can tame the polisario with these..

You didn't win against the bearded, your government had to sign a peace treaty, for which I am happy, because that civil war was painful for any true Arab and muslim.