LeT didn’t expect 26/11 operation to stretch beyond a day

[Annu]

Really? what were those 4 times we tried to capture Punjab and Bengal?
.

you attacked in rajasthan , you couldn't win Kashmir even after 4 times first attack you are talking about Punjab and Bengal ????? lol....

in 1965 when you sent you people in Kashmir , Kashmir informed Indian army that "Terrorist" invaded in Kashmir ...lol

come out of your dream ,

 

[Rusty]

Madrasha education at its best. Ha ha ha

lol, good one.
at least I learned to write in a coherent manner and get my point across.

You just learning to write one liners. BTW how long did it take you to master "HA HA HA"
It can be difficult using 2 letters at the same time

 

[Wickerman]

The Maharajah turned to India to try and save his thrown, and India instead of saying "sorry, no more prices, you will have to surrender to Pakistan like the other princes have surrendered to us", they said "sure, you say that you are part of India and we will save your throne"
And I see you are going though alot of mental gymnastics here, so let me ask you, how was it self defense when the fighting started before the Maharajah sighned over to India? This is just silly talk.

And yes, the nazims did sign over to Pakistan, they even sent their treasury to Pakistan, which Pakistan still has to this day.
Legally speaking, Hyderabad and other princely states belong to Pakistan.

I know that no one likes to be the bad, but if you look at all the facts objectively, you cannot deny that in this case it was India who was 100% to blame for all these problems. And 60 years later both Pakistan and India are still paying the price.

We were not obligated to tell the Maharaja to cede to Pakistan especially when he did not WANT to. So you agree that he ceded to India, that's good. So Pakistan is in the wrong here holding Azad Kashmir till this day.

As for the Nazims, they wanted to cede to Pakistan, but they DID NOT. We annexed them before they could. So again, India is not wrong here in anyway. We have NEVER attacked Pakistan nor have we attacked area ceded to Pakistan. Contrarily it was Pakistan that attacked us 4 times. We only defended.

 

[Rusty]

Yawnnnnn............fine, fine, you guys are the greatest warriors & you got everything you wanted. Good! You keep what you have & we will keep what we have. Boring, this whining.............

got your @ss handed to you and have no reply?
Why not just dismiss the argument and thus achieve victory through ignorance!

This is probably the best strategy for Indians. The truth is just too dangerous

 

[Wickerman]

got your @ss handed to you and have no reply?
Why not just dismiss the argument and thus achieve victory through ignorance!

This is probably the best strategy for Indians. The truth is just too dangerous

Just to remind you, you guys LOST all the wars. Continue.

 

[Rusty]

First bolded part:

Yes the states were supposed to be divided based on religion. But they were also supposed to go to Pakistan ONLY IF THAT STATE VOLUNTARILY CEDED TO PAKISTAN. Kashmir was ceded to India. Not to Pakistan. India did not interfere when Pakistan invaded Kashmir. It was only after Kashmir ceded, that India moved her forces into Kashmir.

Second bolded part:

Pakistan does not legally own squat. Except for what they have now. They dont even own Azad Kashmir, but let by gones be by gones. Hyderabad, Junargadh etc DID NOT cede to Pakistan. Secondly , we couldnt let Pakistan exist bang in the middle of India which is ridiculous. So India was right in annexing those parts. Including Goa (although that was seized from Portugal). The people of those states wanted to be with India anyway. This is the same case in Kashmir. Even though a lot are muslims most of them still wanna be with India, not with Pakistan.

Key word being VOLUNTARY
Yet the Indian military INVADED many of the princely states, the last of which was Goa in the 60s.
You know you can't win this right? No matter what you bring us, I can easily find situation that India did the same thing, or violated the same rules. You want to say that Kashmir signed over to India? well so did Hyderabad and other states. You want to say that it was Voluntary? well which volunteer government signed over Goa?
The problem is that you guys are morally bankrupt, and this the source of the problem in South Asia.

And yes, Pakistan does legally own Hyderabad. Just because you illegally invaded it does not nullify that.
The rest is just cognitive dissident nonsense.

 

[Annu]

nope sorry --- the WHOLE POINT of the bounty was for someone to come forward and present proof that could lead to a conviction (USA admission that they lack any proof thus far)

(read State Dept. spokesperson Mark Toner's speech)


as for your so-called "warrant" --- it wasn't a warrant. It was a summons to appear in court. However the names mentioned don't even exist, they were fabricated.

anybody can say "Major Iqbal" or "Cololel Abul Wahhab Shmahab Khaled"


furthermore -- US courts have no jurisdiction on this matter. So no need to even discuss a lawsuit (filed by victims families, not even by the State)

to put bounty enough proof are necessary , Clear voice sample of hafiz ordering terrorist are available in media also .

so let them prosecute in USA court why not ? every one knows it . Whole world is not mad , Hafiz is like laden USA didn't put him in any court. many Jew family filed court against isi ,


Pakistan already convicted in world.

nice try to prove your hero's innocence ,

 

[Rusty]

you attacked in rajasthan , you couldn't win Kashmir even after 4 times first attack you are talking about Punjab and Bengal ????? lol....

in 1965 when you sent you people in Kashmir , Kashmir informed Indian army that "Terrorist" invaded in Kashmir ...lol

come out of your dream ,

I know that your education level is pretty low and it is well established that Indian IQ is pretty small but still I will give you another chance.

You said we invaded Punjab and Bengal 4 times, now answer my question please.
When were those 4 times?

Maybe you should just take a break and read some history........actually read a book on how to read, then read the history. You will have an easier time then

 

[mjnaushad]

to put bounty enough proof are necessary , Clear voice sample of hafiz ordering terrorist are available in media also .

so let them prosecute in USA court why not ? every one knows it . Whole world is not mad , Hafiz is like laden USA didn't put him in any court. many Jew family filed court against isi ,


Pakistan already convicted in world.

nice try to prove your hero's innocence ,

please post some....




and search the meaning of convicted....

 

[Annu]

please post some....




and search the meaning of convicted....

Dispatches - Terror in Mumbai - Channel 4 ------ watch whole documentary a channel from Singapore.


detailed description with Hafiz ordering to terrorist.

you comprehension is weak , you didn't understand meaning of it.

 

[Bang Galore]

Key word being VOLUNTARY
Yet the Indian military INVADED many of the princely states, the last of which was Goa in the 60s.
You know you can't win this right? No matter what you bring us, I can easily find situation that India did the same thing, or violated the same rules. You want to say that Kashmir signed over to India? well so did Hyderabad and other states. You want to say that it was Voluntary? well which volunteer government signed over Goa?
The problem is that you guys are morally bankrupt, and this the source of the problem in South Asia.

And yes, Pakistan does legally own Hyderabad. Just because you illegally invaded it does not nullify that.
The rest is just cognitive dissident nonsense.

Yawn, all this talk of morality & muslim majority state nonsense is starting to get boring. Why did Jinnah offer the Maharajah of Jodhpur incentives including the free use of Karachi port to get him to join Pakistan even when he knew that the princely state was overwhelmingly Hindu? He was beaten in his aim by an Indian bureaucrat VP Menon who got the Maharajah to accede to India. Tried but failed. What a sorry excuse to whine now.

 

[Wickerman]

Key word being VOLUNTARY
Yet the Indian military INVADED many of the princely states, the last of which was Goa in the 60s.
You know you can't win this right? No matter what you bring us, I can easily find situation that India did the same thing, or violated the same rules. You want to say that Kashmir signed over to India? well so did Hyderabad and other states. You want to say that it was Voluntary? well which volunteer government signed over Goa?
The problem is that you guys are morally bankrupt, and this the source of the problem in South Asia.

And yes, Pakistan does legally own Hyderabad. Just because you illegally invaded it does not nullify that.
The rest is just cognitive dissident nonsense.

Yes. But there are two other factors you are excluding:

1. Strategic: India could not let Pakistan exist in the middle of the Indian land mass.
2. The PEOPLE: The most important. Those were Hindu majority states were the PEOPLE wanted to cede to India. The People of Kashmir were Muslim. And for one, the ruler ceded to India. And for another, the PEOPLE wanted to be a part of India. NOT Pakistan.

This has been Pakistan's failure. They fail to understand what People want. And they wanna go about achieving their so called "unfinished business" of the Partition, whether or not the people in those parts wanna be a part of Pakistan.

 

[Rusty]

We were not obligated to tell the Maharaja to cede to Pakistan especially when he did not WANT to. So you agree that he ceded to India, that's good. So Pakistan is in the wrong here holding Azad Kashmir till this day.

As for the Nazims, they wanted to cede to Pakistan, but they DID NOT. We annexed them before they could. So again, India is not wrong here in anyway. We have NEVER attacked Pakistan nor have we attacked area ceded to Pakistan. Contrarily it was Pakistan that attacked us 4 times. We only defended.

LOL, WEAK SAUCE!!
C'mon man, you can do better then that!

No one asked you to tell the Maharajah anyting, If India was not so morally bankrupt It should have simply ignored the Maharajah. But instead India got all hot and bothered about the idea of annexing even more land despite the consequences, which we are seeing now.

So you invaded them before they sent an official letter?
Seriously? that is your defense?
at least the other guys acknowledged reality and made exueses, you are just making up history and living in lala land.
So let me get this straight, the Nazims had time to send over their treasury to Pakistan, but didn't have time to send a letter?
Yeah makes perfect sense

Also, even if they did not send the letter, that still did not give India the right to invade. These states were not part of India at the time and thus India was not allowed to have military forces there. So yes, India was in the wrong.
And again with the mental gymnastics, maybe that is how your swamis achieve enlightenment, deny reality and substitute it with your own. how was 47 a defensive war? The fight started between Pakistani tribals and the Maharajah, India simply stick it's nose in it. 65 was due o 47. 71 was purely an Indian offensive. And the rest were skirmishes.

 

[Rusty]

Yes. But there are two other factors you are excluding:

1. Strategic: India could not let Pakistan exist in the middle of the Indian land mass.
2. The PEOPLE: The most important. Those were Hindu majority states were the PEOPLE wanted to cede to India. The People of Kashmir were Muslim. And for one, the ruler ceded to India. And for another, the PEOPLE wanted to be a part of India. NOT Pakistan.

This has been Pakistan's failure. They fail to understand what People want. And they wanna go about achieving their so called "unfinished business" of the Partition, whether or not the people in those parts wanna be a part of Pakistan.

Those points don't matter, you guys are the ones harping about legal rights and what not. If you want us to accept that Kashmir belongs to India, then you must accept that Hyderabad and other states belong to Pakistan, as well as Goa belong to Portugal.

If you want to argue that we should do what the people want then Hyderabad, Goa and other states belong to you, while Kashmir belongs to us.
Which one do you want to go with?
YOu can't have both.

And maybe it has been Pakistan's failure, but India has not done much better.
You guys have the Khalistan movement, the maoists, the 6 sister states, and even some south Asians all wanting their own states or not happy about how things are going. India is the last state on earth preeching about what people want.

 

[Annu]

I know that your education level is pretty low and it is well established that Indian IQ is pretty small but still I will give you another chance.

You said we invaded Punjab and Bengal 4 times, now answer my question please.
When were those 4 times?

Maybe you should just take a break and read some history........actually read a book on how to read, then read the history. You will have an easier time then

i know your education from world class "Mad"rsa , ya after Kashmir it will be Punjab and hariyana , bangal whole India then convert them to islam and etc., it's always been your dream but couldn't cross Kashmir.
in 1971 war you did air attack on Amritsar parts of Punjab and hariyana .

Undereducated Pakistanis.....lol