Leonardo DiCaprio invests in two lab-grown meat startups

[Mentee]

They kill animals more brutality, it gives them more taste,
I born in Muslim family, i hate too much Halal and Koshar meat.

I prefer vegetables, and i think lab meat will be good in near future.

Kosher slaughter is still considered the most humane method of killing an animal scientifically speaking and you don't seem to no born in muslim family, I could be wrong- ------.

What do you think the ceo's gonna turn their eyes from the bovine ventures as lab meat is getting accepted by the select few regions? nah! the cattle stock gonna fast become a delicacy and delicacies don't land on your dining table that easy.

 

[jamahir]

No issues with the coordinates and angles of farming as long as it's local to that land and is organic.

"Local to the land" : The general method used in Vertical Farming technically makes it possible to grow any plant anywhere as the building is a closed-off structure and as long as you provide the nutrients ( hydroponics-based ), the lighting ( can be augmented by LEDs ) and possibly temperature control plus the relevant care by the farmers you should be able to say grow olive trees in Pakistan and I suppose even mango trees in Europe and wheat on Mars.

"Organic" : What do you mean ?

You know what this highly advertised iodised salt has done to my people? People as young as in their early 30's are developing b.p and other grave medical issues for ditching whats natural coz the t.v said It gonna be cool.

Well, maybe iodized salt or maybe other things because I have consumed iodized salt since birth and I don't have BP issues. Do you ?

And iodine seems an important thing. From this page :

DEAR MAYO CLINIC: I rarely use table salt anymore when cooking. Instead, I like to use sea salt. But I've noticed that a lot of sea salts don’t contain iodine. Do I need iodized salt, or are there sources of iodine other than salt that are likely giving me all of the iodine I need?

ANSWER: For most people, iodized salt is probably the easiest way to maintain sufficient iodine intake. Iodine is an important nutrient that your thyroid needs to produce certain hormones. Not getting enough iodine in your diet can lead to problems such as an enlarged thyroid gland (goiter) and an abnormally low level of thyroid hormones (hypothyroidism).

Iodine is a trace element present in the earth. Distributed variably around the world due to the effects of the ice age, iodine has accumulated primarily in coastal areas. The most common dietary sources of iodine are seaweed, fish and dairy products. Inland areas have fewer natural sources of iodine. In the U.S., areas where iodine deficiency was common in the early 1900s —the Great Lakes, Appalachians and Northwest — were known as the “goiter belt.” Researchers from these areas encouraged the U.S. to adopt table salt iodization as an inexpensive, yet universal, way of providing iodine supplementation. Although salt iodization never was made mandatory, estimates are that more than 90 percent of U.S. households today have access to iodized salt.

Other sources of dietary iodine include eggs, enriched grain products and plant foods grown in iodine-rich soils. Unfortified sea salt contains only a small amount of iodine.

Still, it’s hard to determine precisely how much iodized salt contributes to an individual’s iodine levels. Iodized salt in the U.S. contains 45 micrograms of iodine per gram of salt. The recommended daily intake for adults is 150 micrograms, which can be obtained from about one-half to three-quarters of a teaspoon of table salt. Testing of the general population indicates that most Americans consume sufficient levels of iodine through their diets. Pregnant women and nursing mothers are the only groups in the U.S. that are advised to take a daily iodine supplement, usually as part of a prenatal vitamin.

Depending on where you live and how much seafood you eat, you may not want to substitute all of your table salt with sea salt. However, that shouldn’t stop you from using sea salt when you want that particular flavor. Be cautious with the amount, however, as all salt is high in sodium. (adapted from Mayo Clinic Health Letter)

— Katherine Zeratsky, R.D.N., L.D., Endocrinology/Nutrition, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota

Nature gifted us a gigantic range of hamaliyan salt meant to replenish bodily minerals . but some multinational busniess graduate low lives who might never even took a class in nutritional sciences told us decades ago that it's nothing less than poison , govts and b.a pass beaurucrats were taken "on board" and it was kinda made a felony to consume pink salt. Do you know what happened next ? They turned pink salt into a status symbol commodity! yes the same thing which was supposed to be venemous and that p.s which used to be almost free is being sold at premium price in relation to iodized salt . I.s is good for marine life not for homosapiens ------

You have a point.

 

[Areesh]

Even if we speak about the poster boy of space exploration - Elon Musk - his company is currently building the Starship spacecraft which can technically 100 people from Earth orbit down to Mars and it is building the booster rocket Super Heavy which will carry Starship to Earth orbit. The combination will be flown to Earth orbit for test by this year's end. The company says that it will send an unmanned Starship to do a flyby orbit of Mars possibly by 2022 and a possible unmanned landing of Starship by 2024 and human landing before 2030.

In that time other companies in various countries will have learnt from the experiences of SpaceX and and the simplifications it will create and will possibly land humans on Mars by 2035 or so. There are currently three private companies in India which are either building complete rockets that can travel to low Earth orbit or are building in-space propulsion engines.

There is also research going on about novel, non-chemical methods to do a faster travel to Mars.

Watch this promo vid of the Terran R big, fully reusable rocket that is being 3D Print developed by the American company Relativity Space and is expected to fly by 2024. There is an youtube interview of the company's founder Tim Ellis and a round of his factory but I am unable to find it but go through this thread about posted some months ago. In the interview Tim speaks of Mars settlement.

Mars is one of the next things for humanity. By 2035. Please accept this.

No

and still no

 

[jamahir]

and still no

You can say no but some of the world is going ahead. The very idea was legitimate and people are acting on the idea.

The in-development Starship on top of Super Heavy :

 

[RealNapster]

2. How will you carry a cow or buffalo to Mars and how will you maintain it there ?

You worrying about Sacrifice of animals on Eid adha occasion on Mars, and commercial slaughtering on Mars but we still don't know how to offer Namaz on that land. Where is the Qibla.

 

[Mentee]

Organic" : What do you mean ?

Veg and fruits grown without the use of factory made fertilizers , include Desi chicken and ghee to the list too. This sugar, io- salt and banaspati oil is cancerous for us perhaps largely responsible for the stunted growth plaguing the world. I myself left adding sugar to the tea/milk, it's shakar and if that's not available than pheeki chai.

 

[jamahir]

Veg and fruits grown without the use of factory made fertilizers

Which plants do you think can serve as source of organic fertilizer ?

Edit : An interesting single set of papers with the keywords "organic fertilizer".

I myself left adding sugar to the tea/milk, it's shakar

Shakar meaning misri or palm sugar ? Something else ?

and if that's not available than pheeki chai.

You have become Japanese or Chinese.

 

[Mentee]

Shakar meaning misri or palm sugar ? Something else ?

Jaggery all the way.

 

[Areesh]

You can say no but some of the world is going ahead. The very idea was legitimate and people are acting on the idea.

The in-development Starship on top of Super Heavy :

Still no

 

[SalarHaqq]

Yes AFAIK there is valid concern about multinational corporations like Monsanto and Cargill trapping farmers into bondage by making them use GMOs that can be maintained using chemicals only of that specific company and some scientists secretly talking for those companies.

There's more: with the generalization of GMO's, which only large companies can produce, crop seeds will end up turning into intellectual property of private firms. In other terms, complete bottom up commodification of food, a primary necessity of human life. This is unacceptable and barely different from privatizing the air we breathe. It is the summit of capitalist alienation.

Another issue with food industries is all the chemical additives they mix in. They're no good at all, yet bogus "studies" funded by agro-industrial corporations will claim otherwise. Not to mention pollution of the food due to industrial mass-manufacturing processes. Already there are micro-plastics in industrially produced rice, including from Indian brands. Companies which do these sorts of things are also the ones pressing for legalization of GMO's.

But the concept of GMO itself is not bad. It can be seen the same like the concept of Grafting of plants. Both are harmless, actually beneficial by themselves.

When grafting plants, we still let nature do most of the work at the genetic level, operate the necessary selections etc. With GMO's, there's direct human manipulation of genetic material. And I doubt this is without consequences on the healthiness of the end product.

As for scientific papers saying there's no risk, the interference of capitalists with science means that such papers can no longer be fully trusted in this day and age.

GMO and Grafting can be included in growing crops using the current development called Vertical Farming and general Urban Farming. VF is the future of plant food growth, whether on Earth or elsewhere. Please see my recent writing on this in this post ( scroll down the post ).

And imagine the situation when in 15 years when GMOed plus mechanically-assisted olive and palm trees and grass begin growing on the otherwise non-helpful grounds on Mars.

No objection to your writing on urban farming. But I suggest that GMO's be kept out of it. They're not necessary for the techniques you described either.

 

[jamahir]

There's more: with the generalization of GMO's, which only large companies can produce, crop seeds will end up turning into intellectual property of private companies. In other terms, complete bottom up commodification of food, a primary necessity of human life. This is totally unacceptable and barely different from privatizing the air we breathe. It is the summit of capitalist alienation.

Another issue with food industries is all the chemical additives in our food. They're no good at all, yet bogus "studies" funded by agro-industrial corporations will claim otherwise. Not to mention pollution of the food due to industrial mass-manufacturing processes. Already there are micro-plastics in industrially produced rice, including the Indian one. Companies which do these sorts of things are also the ones pressing for legalization of GMO's.



When grafting plants, we still let nature do most of the work at the genetic level, operate the necessary selections etc. With GMO's, there's direct human manipulation of genetic material. And I doubt this is without consequences on the healthiness of the end product.

As for scientific papers saying there's no risk, the interference of capitalists with science means that such papers can no longer be fully trusted in this day and age.



No objection to your writing on urban farming. But GMO's should be kept out of it. They're not necessary for any of these techniques either.

I agree with your post and you may be right about GM not being necessary for growing plants on Mars. Maybe mechanical assistance plus grafting is good enough. There are plants on Earth which grow in very cold areas ( like lower than -50 Celsius in Yakutsk in Russia - please watch the vid in this thread of mine ) because Mars generally is a very cold place and they can be grafted with plants that grow in dry areas on Earth ( like the argan tree in North Africa - please read this article about reforestation of Morocco's desert with argan trees ). About mechanical assistance there is the MOXIE machine on the new American Mars rover Perseverance that is meant to produce oxygen from Martian air. It is a test to be used in future to generate oxygen for Mars travelers and for spaceship fuel. MOXIE is an example of mechanical obtainment of Martian elements. I glanced through this page that describes the minerals required for plant growth and this one that describes the mineral content in Martian soil and air and some of these are required for plant growth so they can be obtained and refined in a unit that also contains the plant / tree.