That is nonsense. You claimed J-10B with serial number is long spotted last year. It is not that new if it has commissioned already. As a premier fighter, it shall every right participate in Top gun competition to futher elaborate for the doctrine. But it didn't.
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That is nonsense. You claimed J-10B with serial number is long spotted last year. It is not that new if it has commissioned already. As a premier fighter, it shall every right participate in Top gun competition to futher elaborate for the doctrine. But it didn't.
The one without proof is you. You simply can't provide any point or proof and just try to get out of this embarrassing dilemma.
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O.k. .. let's try it this way: we both have different opinions and none of us can proof it since the PLAAF or any other official source will surely not "proof" any of our both claims ... so let other's decide, what's at least the most likely or probable "fact":
My arguments for the "opinion" the J-10B is in operational service already:
- we have seen now about 76 J-10B powered by AL-31FN series 3 - an upgrade of a proven engine on the J-10A - several of them with clearly identified serials ...
- we have several reports - unconfirmed and non-official - however we have them of already three to four operational units and this fits nicely to the number of spotted aircraft.
- the WS-10B is surely the foreseen final engine, but why should the PLAAF do not use AL-31FN-powered J-10B, if there are already and still hundreds of AL-31FN-powered J-10As ?
- IMO there is truly no need for any type to take part on an exercise to be "declared" operational and only then to be declared operational.
- IMO the absence of an official confirmation is not the proof for the opposite (see: even if we don't have an official confirmation about the J-16, the new bomber or other "secret" projects, we are almost sure that they exist)
Your arguments for the "opinion" the J-10B is in NOT operational service already:
- the WS-10B is the foreseen final engine and the PLAAF will not use any of the more than 76 build AL-31FN-powered J-10B until the WS-10B is ready ....
- the more than 76 so far build J-10B will have to wait ...
- the clearly identified serials and reports of three to four operational units are no argument.
- the J-10B did not take part on an exercise and as such is not "declared" operational
Maybe we should do a poll to decide but again I really do not understand Your logic ! ... by this logic, neither the J-16 or J-15 is operational and by the way, did You notice, what unit won the Golden Helmet contest this year ?? A fighter bomber unit equipped with the Su-30MKK (alias the 3. Division).
My arguments for the "opinion" the J-10B is in operational service already:
- we have seen now about 76 J-10B powered by AL-31FN series 3 - an upgrade of a proven engine on the J-10A - several of them with clearly identified serials ...
- we have several reports - unconfirmed and non-official - however we have them of already three to four operational units and this fits nicely to the number of spotted aircraft.
- the WS-10B is surely the foreseen final engine, but why should the PLAAF do not use AL-31FN-powered J-10B, if there are already and still hundreds of AL-31FN-powered J-10As ?
- IMO there is truly no need for any type to take part on an exercise to be "declared" operational and only then to be declared operational.
- IMO the absence of an official confirmation is not the proof for the opposite (see: even if we don't have an official confirmation about the J-16, the new bomber or other "secret" projects, we are almost sure that they exist)
Your arguments for the "opinion" the J-10B is in NOT operational service already:
- the WS-10B is the foreseen final engine and the PLAAF will not use any of the more than 76 build AL-31FN-powered J-10B until the WS-10B is ready ....
- the more than 76 so far build J-10B will have to wait ...
- the clearly identified serials and reports of three to four operational units are no argument.
- the J-10B did not take part on an exercise and as such is not "declared" operational
Maybe we should do a poll to decide but again I really do not understand Your logic ! ... by this logic, neither the J-16 or J-15 is operational and by the way, did You notice, what unit won the Golden Helmet contest this year ?? A fighter bomber unit equipped with the Su-30MKK (alias the 3. Division).
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