Leave Musharraf alone, Boucher tells Nawaz

[Energon]

US mediocrity at its best, state interference, ties, interests unequivocally known as the secret hand behind Musharraf.

The US involvement in Pakistan since the 50s has been part of the foreign policy of the former and doesn't have anything to do with a particular Pakistani head of state (elected or otherwise) per se. No Pakistani leader is free from heavy US influence, its only a matter of how that person plays it in the press.

 

[BATMAN]

US mediocrity at its best, state interference, ties, interests unequivocally known as the secret hand behind Musharraf.

Nawaz has a personal score to settle with Musharraf, I doubt he will shake off the impeachment, that easily.

How about Zardari does he not have any score to settel with Sharif?
I think Zardari is toying with Sharif and the idiots of Sharif party could not see it as usual.

Zardari should concentrate more on state affairs.
Nation should ask him to fill the forex reserves to the same level, where Shaukat Aziz left.
He should take back all the new taxes and price hike.

 

[opinion786]

Interceptor;170685]NO the previous government started off killing Bugti, which we are regretting right now, no talks were ever initiated, military aid was taken openly to show stance of the governments on the issue.

Bughti was rightly killed. No body is regretting that!

No development was done to improve standard of living, major Political party leaders were jailed, Mullah FM was licensed by government, the previous government paid off the debt of Taliban something like half a million dollars that came on BBC.

Musharraf initiated many projects for Baluchistan:

1- Mirani Dam (storage capacity of 300,000 million acres feet of Water).
2- Sardar Bahadur Khan Women University in Quetta
3- Gwadar a mega sea port.
4- Makran Coastal Highway (Karachi-Gwadar, Pasni-Gwadar & Ormara-Liari).
5- M8 Motorway (Gwadar to Ratodero);
6- Gwadar International Airport.
7- Copper & Gold Reserves in Rekodiq (world class mining).
8- First-ever Kidney Centre in Balochistan.
9- Around 10,000 Baluchistan residents have been inducted into the PAK Army.
10- UAE's $ 5 billion Oil refinery at Hub
11-Lasbella University of Marine Sciences, Baluchistan (2005)
12-Baluchistan University of IT & Management, Quetta (2002), etc.

Musharraf initiated many projects for NWFP:

He initiated many projects for NWFP:
1- Univerisity of Science & Tech, Bannu
2- University of Hazara
3- Malakand University
4- Karakarum International University
5- Sarhad University of IT, Peshawar
6- Naltar Hydro Power project
7- Gomal Zam Dam (storage 1.14 million acre foot Water)
8- Khurram Tangi Dam and Subak Zai Dam
9- M1 Motorway (Islamabad to Peshawar)
10- Sust dry Port (near Gilgit)
11- Marble City (for future Mining & Export prospects)

The previous government hid US air strikes from public and media, lies after lies.

What about the recent strikes in NWFP by USA & NATO that killed 11 of our paramilitary men?

Lastly, pls take a look at Hussein Haqqani's interview to Kashif abbasi ARY - and you'll realize how PRO-USA the new PPP govt is and Haqqani.

 

[BATMAN]

Bughti was rightly killed. No body is regretting that!

Instead, we should regret for setting mengal free.
Musharraf alos organised funds for construction of Kalabagh Dam. Incl inssurance.
Now if the new guy decide to build Kalabagh no international organisation will be willin gto fund the project.
PPP is killing Pakistan slowly. They are eating-up forex reserves and imposing double taxes.
Pakistan's defence budget is squeasing without bringing any positive change in civilian sector.
Where is all the money going from defence cuts, extra taxes and forex reserves?

 

[opinion786]

Hussein Haqqani's interview with Kashif abbasi ARY - see their PRO-USA stand on YOU TUBE. The link is not being taken here.
BtOYSEhdWMQ[/media] - Hussain Haqani's Interview with Kashif Abbasi Part 1

Complete interviews 6 parts can be views from the YOU TUBE website.

 

[Interceptor]

Read Crossed Swords. No less than Lt Gen Ziauddin (the then DG ISI) who was Sharif's nominee for the post of CoAS in place of Pervez Musharraf incriminates his own boss (NS) saying that he approved stating "I will support this mission for as long as the operation is a success (I.E. we do not suffer any reverses)."

Nawaz allowed the operation to proceed. As the PM of Pakistan, politically responsibility lay with him.

If Musharraf is innocent than why didn't he allow an enquiry to take place, on the tragic short battle with India, our Jawaans lay their on the mountain where they were gun down.

There has been request for a enquiry by Nawaz and it will uncover those who were behind this tragedy, you heard Kiyani's interview it suggest different line of events, our Jawaans gave their lives just to know that we had to fall back.

No country in the world gives a blind eye and a deaf ear to these kinds of incedents and neither will we.

 

[opinion786]

Interceptor;171047]If Musharraf is innocent than why didn't he allow an enquiry to take place, on the tragic short battle with India, our Jawaans lay their on the mountain where they were gun down.

This is just like questioning, "Why does Army court martial instead of our regular courts"?

Inquiries are never done for military operations. Only your enemy will take advantage of that.

There has been request for a enquiry by Nawaz and it will uncover those who were behind this tragedy, you heard Kiyani's interview it suggest different line of events, our Jawaans gave their lives just to know that we had to fall back.

Everything complimenting personal vendetta, will now be seeked & inquired by Nawaz.

By the way, Nawaz was shopping for a $25,000 Patek Phillip watch in Washington when these Jawan's were being killed.

How many troops have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.... how many inquires did USa hold?

No country in the world gives a blind eye and a deaf ear to these kinds of incedents and neither will we.

No country maligns its own troops and nor will we.

 

[BATMAN]

Hussein Haqqani's interview with Kashif abbasi ARY - see their PRO-USA stand on YOU TUBE. The link is not being taken here.
BtOYSEhdWMQ[/media] - Hussain Haqani's Interview with Kashif Abbasi Part 1

Complete interviews 6 parts can be views from the YOU TUBE website.

So now we know the secret hand behind Musharraf!
Zardari and his group should answer in public about their secret meeting with US officials in foreign countries followed by US attack on Pak troops.

 

[BATMAN]

Question:

There has been request for a enquiry by Nawaz and it will uncover those who were behind this tragedy

Answer:

Nawaz has a personal score to settle with Musharraf, I doubt he will shake off the impeachment, that easily.

 

[opinion786]

How shameful it was when Nawaz and zardari met in London to discuss GOD knows what and later Boucher also met Nawaz. What kind of dictation do these people take in foreign countries?

Judges restoration was being held like a designer brand - London - Dubai - Muree

Every where BUT Supreme Parliament! It looks as if our Parliament has shifted to Zardari House ISB where the trio governing authorites are - men of character : Zardari - Haqqani - Rehman Malik and a show piece Prime Minister (who needs to be dusted every morning).

 

[Interceptor]

The US involvement in Pakistan since the 50s has been part of the foreign policy of the former and doesn't have anything to do with a particular Pakistani head of state (elected or otherwise) per se. No Pakistani leader is free from heavy US influence, its only a matter of how that person plays it in the press.

Well where not in the 50s, and Pakistan does not catter US, neither do make country specific forign policy, ZAB openly opposed US wars during the 70s, he initiated the Nuclear Program and made frendship with China (which was socialist state at that time), Zhou Enlai was so taken by ZAB that he said that "Pakistan and China's frendship is higher than the Himalayas" we never depended on US during the 70s, neither has any other democratic government for that matter, as history tell us that most of the short termed democratic governments fell under economic sanctions.

The only puppet show you will have is from dictators who have no respect in Pakistani history, ever.

 

[Interceptor]

This is just like questioning, "Why does Army court martial instead of our regular courts"?

Might be due to it being a military personal rather than a civilian, though Musharraf did bend the rules like most dictators he made civilians be tried by Army courts just last year in Nov.

Inquiries are never done for military operations. Only your enemy will take advantage of that.

You shall witness one.

Everything complimenting personal vendetta, will now be seeked & inquired by Nawaz.

At least Nawaz doesn't coup over his own country and take power for nearly a decade.

By the way, Nawaz was shopping for a $25,000 Patek Phillip watch in Washington when these Jawan's were being killed.

And does this contradict to your believes that he was involved in this blunder? And whats wrong with buying a pricey watch, as if Musharraf and his goons didn't, 200 cars all latest models, with bullet proof windshields, and the money came from the taxpayer.

How many troops have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.... how many inquires did USa hold?

No doubt about it, all deaths were enquired over, after all as if the US will not enquire to find out the cause of death, have you not noticed if one soldier dies all media channels and even Pakistani channels report it does that not show what kind of pressure they are in when they dont give details.

 

[mujahideen]

For all those who critize President Musharraf and his policies, I ask you what will change? In the past couple of months Pakista's policies have not changed and I bet they wont either.

 

[blain2]

If Musharraf is innocent than why didn't he allow an enquiry to take place, on the tragic short battle with India, our Jawaans lay their on the mountain where they were gun down.

There has been request for a enquiry by Nawaz and it will uncover those who were behind this tragedy, you heard Kiyani's interview it suggest different line of events, our Jawaans gave their lives just to know that we had to fall back.

No country in the world gives a blind eye and a deaf ear to these kinds of incedents and neither will we.

The ones calling for an inquiry know that one would never be held. Its simply a game of bluff! Jamshed Gulzar was Maj Gen and #2 to Lt Gen Ziauddin at the ISI at the time of the Kargil operation. The DG-ISI would know better what was going on...believe me on this. Jamshed Gulzar's boss is directly contradicting him and Nawaz Sharif (who chose him to be the CoAS) and here you continue to make excuses for NS.

My point is simply that while one can say that Musharraf pushed for the plan, Mian Nawaz Sharif should have had the guts to call it off as Zia did but he did not. So calling for an inquiry which he knows will never happen doesn't cut the mustard.

If and when such an inquiry goes ahead, more aheads aside from Musharraf's would role and these would include your champion of "sola crore awaam".

Also please refrain from using "Kiyani" alone as it is misleading and an obvious effort to bring into controversy the current Chief and confuse people. Lt Gen Jamshed Gulzar never used the name "Kiyani" during his entire service. Also Lt Gen Jamshed Gulzar's point about people giving their lives and then falling back is silly. It was a difficult operation and casualties were expected. He knew this, but where was his conscience and why did he not disagree with the operation? He was at the briefings...but you see such things require moral courage which Gulzar sahib was lacking it seems at the time. I can recount multiple situations here where Lt Cols have said no to Lt Gens for things which they thought were problematic (these were not cases of cowardice mind you). Many brave men did indeed die and its unfortunate but such is war. The same happened in 48, 65, 71, Siachen and then Kargil. So my point is that if someone believes so strongly about the wrong of Kargil (as this Gulzar sahib did), why did he not muster enough courage to disagree with his Chief?

 

[fatman17]

For all those who critize President Musharraf and his policies, I ask you what will change? In the past couple of months Pakista's policies have not changed and I bet they wont either.

what choices do these dis-jointed politicians have. they have no time for solving national issues because they have their personals agendas to cater to. e.g. when peshawar city was threatened by the militants, the ANP ran to the federal govt for help which in turn called on the PA to do anything in its power to save the capital of NWFP. Gen Kiyani had a smirk on his face (if you saw the videos or any still pics of this mtg between the GoP, provincial govt and PA). what a bunch of yahoos.