Leaked footage of Jaish-e-Modi officials converting local youth into a suicide bomber

[jamahir]

You dont know ABCDs of linguistics.

You consider yourself an expert in linguistics but you don't know that it should be "the ABCD of" and not "ABCDs of".

urdu and hindi are same languages...all the urdu verbs and pronouns are derived from sanskrit..

Many of Bollywood's dialogues and songs have Classical Urdu wordings which are easily distinguishable from Classical Hindi.

 

[ColonelSanders]

You dont know ABCDs of linguistics..urdu and hindi are same languages...all the urdu verbs and pronouns are derived from sanskrit..a language may have hundreds of loan nouns..that doesnt make it a different language.
For example mein paani pee raha hoo.
Mein water pee raha hoo...are the first and second sentences belong to different languages just because i used an english noun in the second sentence...show me one linguist who considers urdu different from hindi...hindi aka urdu is evolved from sanskrit.

That's a nice try to direct the conversation towards languages from the matter at hand.
Unless you have anything to add other than this language crap, dont reply again. This is a forum where indian state terrorism ia being discussed. Not the dick measuring contest for Hindi, Sanskrit etc

 

[namefield_empty]

They are not the hindutva fuelled mobs let loose, Indian Army is a highly disciplined and trained organisation and that young man as well as every Kashmiri on the receiving end of such treatment has to have done something to deserve it.

*braces for impact*

 

[ColonelSanders]

They are not the hindutva fuelled mobs let loose, Indian Army is a highly disciplined and trained organisation and that young man as well as every Kashmiri on the receiving end of such treatment has to have done something to deserve it.

*braces for impact*

A few points to note here...
First you just admitted that hindutva fuelled mobs exist in india...
2nd... Does saying "Pakistan Zindabad" attract a beating from those trained and disciplined forces? Because if it does then indian army is depriving people of their right of free speech.
3rd... Is it legal to beat someone up like this? Even when they have committed a crime? If not then Indian law doesn't mean shit...
4th... Trained and disciplined? Do they get the training to gang up on one unarmed person and torture him? To me looks like they are a bunch of cowards.

 

[namefield_empty]

A few points to note here...
First you just admitted that hindutva fuelled mobs exist in india...
2nd... Does saying "Pakistan Zindabad" attract a beating from those trained and disciplined forces? Because if it does then indian army is depriving people of their right of free speech.
3rd... Is it legal to beat someone up like this? Even when they have committed a crime? If not then Indian law doesn't mean shit...
4th... Trained and disciplined? Do they get the training to gang up on one unarmed person and torture him? To me looks like they are a bunch of cowards.

1. Mob mentality of all hues are widely prevalent in the subcontinent, that goes without saying.
2. Ideally it shouldn't, but such chants are followed by pelting of stones and a host of other subversive and overt activities inimical to India. You can never get the full picture on social media. Do note that Pakistan too has draconian legal provisions for similar 'offence'.
3. Kashmir is a declared disturbed area, even though the security forces are empowered, it is not absolute and the affected have option to seek legal recourse if they feel their fundamental rights have been transgressed. Peaceful protestors in India do not share the same fate as Prof Arman Luni and Rawal Asad nor do we have military courts here.
4. Army is trained to foster peace and harmony in the valley and to uproot terrorism, if that means having to take stern action against a few rotten apples then so be it.

 

[ColonelSanders]

1. Mob mentality of all hues are widely prevalent in the subcontinent, that goes without saying.
2. Ideally it shouldn't, but such chants are followed by pelting of stones and a host of other subversive and overt activities inimical to India. You can never get the full picture on social media. Do note that Pakistan too has draconian legal provisions for similar 'offence'.
3. Kashmir is a declared disturbed area, even though the security forces are empowered, it is not absolute and the affected have option to seek legal recourse if they feel their fundamental rights have been transgressed. Peaceful protestors in India do not share the same fate as Prof Arman Luni and Rawal Asad nor do we have military courts here.
4. Army is trained to foster peace and harmony in the valley and to uproot terrorism, if that means having to take stern action against a few rotten apples then so be it.

Ok. I'll give you the first point because that's true. Be it hindutva mob or mindless molvis.
2. I am from Pakistani Kashmir and spent a lot of time in other cities as well. I have never seen anyone chanting "India Zindabad" but i do know that Pak Army never stoops to that low. Policemen are a bunch of idiots but if something like this happens, a lot of people lose their uniforms and go to jail. I have witnessed this first hand.
3. You say that people have right to legal recourse. Forget Kashmir as it is disputed. What about Gujarat? Have people in Gujarat given the justice? If indian courts can not prosecute Hindutva mob who killed muslims in Gujarat, how will the prosecute a state institute?
4. If chants of Pakistan Zindabad are common and people throw stones at the army everyday, there must be a reason behind that. Right?
And I dont see anyone else around in that video where indian army is torturing that guy. If everyone else ran away after doing something, is it really necessary to torture someone? Cant that person simply be arrested and legal action taken against him?

You talk about pakistani military courts but you forget that your elected Prime Minister orchestrated murder of hundreds, gang rapes and all sort of atrocities against muslims and people want him to be the next prime minister again.

 

[loanranger]

yes for the first question.
nope for the second.


are u a college going kid?
baat ko kahaan se kahaan leke jaa rahe ho.....no use talking to u.

You are a hypocrite dont quote or reply to me again....

 

[CodeforFood]

man, u have to be a third degree a-hole to make a sweeping statement like that.
i thought pak was on its way up, but you ppl will make sure it remains the way it shouldnt.
there is no difference between ur kind and those brainless idiots who blow them up beacause they saw some videos.
on the video: extremely shameful. as some correctly pointed out, these acts of barbarism should be made public in every domain. just because i am an indian, i am not going to condone this.
Having said that, local/imported youth should also be held accountable for their own crimes.

These are not some videos there are a lot of these. It would be good if you guys started doing some introspection instead of throwing mud on others.

 

[namefield_empty]

Ok. I'll give you the first point because that's true. Be it hindutva mob or mindless molvis.
2. I am from Pakistani Kashmir and spent a lot of time in other cities as well. I have never seen anyone chanting "India Zindabad" but i do know that Pak Army never stoops to that low. Policemen are a bunch of idiots but if something like this happens, a lot of people lose their uniforms and go to jail. I have witnessed this first hand.
3. You say that people have right to legal recourse. Forget Kashmir as it is disputed. What about Gujarat? Have people in Gujarat given the justice? If indian courts can not prosecute Hindutva mob who killed muslims in Gujarat, how will the prosecute a state institute?
4. If chants of Pakistan Zindabad are common and people throw stones at the army everyday, there must be a reason behind that. Right?
And I dont see anyone else around in that video where indian army is torturing that guy. If everyone else ran away after doing something, is it really necessary to torture someone? Cant that person simply be arrested and legal action taken against him?

You talk about pakistani military courts but you forget that your elected Prime Minister orchestrated murder of hundreds, gang rapes and all sort of atrocities against muslims and people want him to be the next prime minister again.

Unfortunately, sedition charges get slapped when one chants India or Pakistan zindabad. But that is besides the point, India deals with armed insurgency in the same way you deal with the Baloch separatists or the TTP.

Charges and allegations have to be proved in the court of law in India, below is the follow-up of various Gujrat riot cases.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...and-their-statuses-so-far/article23617950.ece

There is definitely a reason behind the zindabad slogans, starting the late eighties. Indian Army exercises extreme restraint even during the operations, picture tell only a part of the story. They work in a hostile environment, such incidents must not be condoned or celebrated but be simply accepted as the byproduct of the ongoing situation there with utmost sobriety.

Again, charges and allegations levelled have to be proven in the court of law and not all Indians want Mr Modi to be the next Prime Minister.

 

[ColonelSanders]

Unfortunately, sedition charges get slapped when one chants India or Pakistan zindabad. But that is besides the point, India deals with armed insurgency in the same way you deal with the Baloch separatists or the TTP.

Charges and allegations have to be proved in the court of law in India, below is the follow-up of various Gujrat riot cases.
https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...and-their-statuses-so-far/article23617950.ece

There is definitely a reason behind the zindabad slogans, starting the late eighties. Indian Army exercises extreme restraint even during the operations, picture tell only a part of the story. They work in a hostile environment, such incidents must not be condoned or celebrated but be simply accepted as the byproduct of the ongoing situation there with utmost sobriety.

Again, charges and allegations levelled have to be proven in the court of law and not all Indians want Mr Modi to be the next Prime Minister.

TTP and BLA are armed terrorist organisations. And india has a big hand in arming those organisations.
Do you see that young man carrying any weapon?
Fighting terrorism and torturing unarmed civilians are two very different things.

Main criminal behind Gujarat got a promotion and is still hailed as a hero. Doesn't matter how many other people get arrested.

 

[BATMAN]

Shooting couple of more Su-30 would have been a perfect pay back.

 

[baajey]

You are a hypocrite dont quote or reply to me again....

naming someone at the drop of a hat. i can see the upbringing, newbie.
cool it down.
we dont have any personal enmity, so no need to go hyper when i dont agree with ur pov.

 

[Placemat]

So Gujarat did not happen in his regime? Was he not the CM at that time?

Modi is a terrorist. Plain and simple

Yiu only say tgat because mire muslims were killed than hindus. You overlook the fact rthat it was triggered by train burning. You overlook the fact that communal violence has aleays happened in other regimes but only because BJP is viewed as hindu party is Modi being blamed. You overlook the fact there have been no large scale communal riots in Gujarat after that or in India since 2014.
What you hear is afalse narrative. Simple.

 

[loanranger]

naming someone at the drop of a hat. i can see the upbringing, newbie.
cool it down.
we dont have any personal enmity, so no need to go hyper when i dont agree with ur pov.

I aint a newbie and dont judge me...