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Leaked audio of Shaukat Tareen

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Nothing problematic in what is being suggested in calls. How can any province give surplus budget during such horrific natural calamity? Finance minister of affected provinces should ignore fiscal discipline for couple of years and give commitment to rebuild lost infrastructure.. Their people will hold them responsible.
 
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As if none of this happened while Immi was in power. Your messiah was history if PDM had brains. VONC was the worst thing that happened to Pakistan and the best thing for imran. Unfortunately he more popular with the rhetoric and zero aim for reforms.
The case against Rana Sanaullah was done by which agency? The Anti Narcotics Force (ANF)

Who heads the ANF? A serving Army officer.

Who carried out the raid and provided evidence and claimed that the evidence was credible etc etc etc? The ANF

Who abducted various journalists? Black vigo's and we know who operates them (hint, those under the influence of Army leadership).

So anywhere you look, the culprit is the establishment, the difference being that the PTI never accepted or celebrated the kinds of torture, arrests and atrocities that the current PDM regime is carrying out on the instructions of the Army leadership. The PTI government condemned the illegal detention of journalists. No one was forced off the air because they criticized the PTI, but they were forced off the air for criticizing the Army.
 
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So you're agreeing with the fact that the IMF deal needs to be renegotiated because of the floods and that the provincial governments will not be able to show a surplus because of flood related expenses - then what exactly was wrong with the phone call?

You still haven't provided a single rational or logical argument against what Tareen said, just continued abuse, personal attacks and slurs.
Sovereign is more important period. Leghari literally asked tareen what impact this will have on state and the shameless fat douche say's Immi cases are more important.

When did a person become more important than the state? So yeah you've lost all rationality and your so called advisory position is extremely
questionable. ol.

The case against Rana Sanaullah was done by which agency? The Anti Narcotics Force (ANF)

Who heads the ANF? A serving Army officer.

Who carried out the raid and provided evidence and claimed that the evidence was credible etc etc etc? The ANF

Who abducted various journalists? Black vigo's and we know who operates them (hint, those under the influence of Army leadership).

So anywhere you look, the culprit is the establishment, the difference being that the PTI never accepted or celebrated the kinds of torture, arrests and atrocities that the current PDM regime is carrying out on the instructions of the Army leadership. The PTI government condemned the illegal detention of journalists. No one was forced off the air because they criticized the PTI, but they were forced off the air for criticizing the Army.
Who enabled all of this? PTI. Did PTI stop this? NO it became an enabler. Immi polished boots as fast as he could. Prepared faiz for his own benefit. But once he got booted out establishment did everything and had me by the balls. So yeah kudos to you for being a genius.
 
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Ok so tapping is the issue but not the crux of what is being said? During PTI's reign the exact same machinery (which you now identify as "who else") and technology was being used against their opponents.

At least learn to call a spade a spade.
Which high level PMLN or PPP leader was arrested and tortured, physically and sexually, for criticizing the PTI?

Which high level pro-PMLN or pro-PPP journalist was arrested and tortured, physically and sexually, for criticizing the PTI?

The majority of journalists and media hounded during the PTI's reign were those criticizing the establishment (Army), whether it be Hamid Mir or Matiullah Jan. There is a whole meme about journalists and anchors being 'taken to enjoy the Northern Areas and getting software updates' because of the Establishment's involvement in these abductions.

The PTI denied any role in, and called for investigations into, Toor and Matiullah Jan's abductions. There was no support or justification for the attacks on them by the PTI leadership, unlike what is going on today - this is a false equivalence to protect the uniformed dictators and beasts that serve in the Army leadership.
 
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Sovereign is more important period. Leghari literally asked tareen what impact this will have on state and the shameless fat douche say's Immi cases are more important.

When did a person become more important than the state? So yeah you've lost all rationality and your so called advisory position is extremely
questionable. ol.
What does 'sovereign' have anything to do with the cold hard facts that the devastation from the recent floods have made meeting IMF conditions impossible this year and that the provincial governments will find it impossible to show a budget surplus?

You continue to dance around aimlessly (like the Army+PDM leadership) throwing around abuse and insults and refuse to address the basic issue that has been pointed out multiple times.
Who enabled all of this? PTI. Did PTI stop this? NO it became an enabler. Immi polished boots as fast as he could. Prepared faiz for his own benefit. But once he got booted out establishment did everything and had me by the balls. So yeah kudos to you for being a genius.
The Army Leadership enabled it - what part of the Army leadership concocting evidence through the ANF (which it controls) and manipulating police and judges to 'open and shut the tap on accountability investigations and prosecutions was because the 'PTI enabled it'?

IK chose to give Bajwa and the Army leadership the benefit of the doubt, assuming they had Pakistan's best interests at heart. The Army leadership abused that faith, manipulated the system and did what it always does. Faiz remaining DG ISI was the Prime Minister's prerogative.

The fact that Bajwa threw a temper tantrum befitting a crying whining spoilt toddler only reflects poorly on him and the Army leadership supporting him and exposes the lie that there was any civilian supremacy over the Army.
 
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Lol this guy does not have a clue how calls are tapped by MI/ISI/IB. They way they work in most of the cases, they don't need to install an app in your phone.

On to the topic now, can anyone actually link the complete tape, not only a snippet. I want to listen to the whole thing and the full conversation.
All telecom companies have to keep record of calls for a certain period of days. No software or spyware needs to be installed in your phone.

Lol this guy does not have a clue how calls are tapped by MI/ISI/IB. They way they work in most of the cases, they don't need to install an app in your phone.

On to the topic now, can anyone actually link the complete tape, not only a snippet. I want to listen to the whole thing and the full conversation.
The whole tape was not released on purpose, only the bits that they thought would favor PDM and malign PTI were used.
 
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All telecom companies have to keep record of calls for a certain period of days.

I don't know about the practice now, but from what I know from someone who actually does this in Pakistan, the telephone companies only keep metadata of a call, i.e. numbers, location, duration, etc. Not the actual content itself.

If needed, the agency then requests the company to record the phone calls starting from when the request was made until further notice.

The other method (more preferred and quick) is different and the phone company is totally kept out of the loop. This process is both random and targeted.

No software or spyware needs to be installed in your phone.

Agreed.
 
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