Leaders who claim to change things in 90 days are liars: Nawaz

[truthseer]

I think I told you to come to his city and ask anyone

or see this Why Ijaz Khan Jazi still PTI member? > Insaf Forum > Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf

propaganda tha saara mein pindi ka rehny wala hoon jazi khan ko janta b hoon wo dabang type ka banda hy qaid e azam univ mein us ny msf(n) ko bara achy tareeqy sy chalaya hy aur us k khilaaf student life k kch cases hein jin ko bunyaad bna k propaganda kiya gaya hy.kch mansiyaat k jhooty cases aur kch juwey k 2008 mein pehly sheikh rasheed k muqably mein iss ko ticket diya tha pmln ny phir baad mein sheir ka libaada aury geedar ny asli shair ko medan mein utara "javaid hashmi ko" lekin jab javaid hashmi ny seat chori to haji pervaiz "jehli dgree holder " ko ticket nawaza gaya becaz of some plaza politics by "ch nisaar" in pindi comercial area jis per ye dabang admi pmln k khilaaf hogaya aur azad election lara.zamni election mein pti k shikast k zimadar kch PTI ka aik dara b hy jo jaazi k saath nhi hy so CH NISAAR AND CO FUNDED propganda jo full swing mein tha PTI rwp medai cell ki khamoshi ki waja sy kamyab rha aur pindi ki masroof tareen awaam karobari lehazz sy jhoot aur sach ki pechaan nhi kar saki.so my friends we need with in our party if we some support from pindi which we have in form of youth but kch logoon k "garden k sarya(anna )" ki waja sy mobilize aur unite nhi horhi plz convey my msg to top leadership aik adna sy pti rwp worker jissy ppp k jiyaaloon pmln k matwaloon sheikh k cheloon aur jamiat k jihadiyoon ka muqabla karna parta hy lekin apni party waly b unite nhi hein so INSAF.

Your point is?

 

[Tiger Awan]

Your point is?

even some Pti members have reservation. there is not only one comment there.

 

[truthseer]

even some Pti members have reservation. there is not only one comment there.

That's the beauty of a democratic party, one can disagree with Imran's decision. Yet, you can see their voices are heard.

 

[Tiger Awan]

That's the beauty of a democratic party, one can disagree with Imran's decision. Yet, you can see their voices are heard.

Beauty of Democracy even PPP say the same. We need to move forward.

 

[truthseer]

Beauty of Democracy even PPP say the same. We need to move forward.

The difference being that PTI has a party structure which is truly democratic. Unlike PPP, the powers are not concentrated in the hands of the chairman

 

[Tiger Awan]

The difference being that PTI has a party structure which is truly democratic. Unlike PPP, the powers are not concentrated in the hands of the chairman

you just got distracted

 

[truthseer]

you just got distracted

Distracted from what? It's you who are getting distracted from the fake promises of PML-N who did nothing last time around.

 

[Developereo]

you should give us some idea how Imran is going to change it, out of 180 millions 160 million are corrupt to the core and dont just blame politicians...yahan avey ka ava bigra hua hay...every one is used to shortcuts, nepotism and corruption. So Imran should slow down on his promises otherwise this impatient and corrupt public will run after him after 90 days. he should not make stupid promises that he wont keep.

NS on the other hand is being realistic, general loot maar is not the only problem public loot maar of national institutions is a bigger problem...take for example line losses for power dist companies, its not only the powerful who are doing it but you and mee and our neighbors are doing it and this revolving credit problem cannot be solved by just paying once to power producer when next month power dist will again have huge loses and wont be able to pay producers.

So Imran should take a chill pill and stop making big promises and give us realistic solutions.
and people of Pakistan should get off the HERO train and start using their brain and not just criticize someone for the pure hate but listen to his arguments.

Pakistan has many honest people who want to do the RIGHT thing, but the corrupt system works AGAINST them. An honest police officer or tax official has no hope of prosecuting criminals because his own boss is likely corrupt and will probably punish him instead for going after the crooks.

Therefore, the change has to come from the top. When Imran Khan goes after the biggest crooks to make it clear that no one is above the law, it will send a signal downstream. Establishment of independent anti-corruption hotlines and investigative bodies with power to indict even the topmost crooks will embolden the ordinary citizen to do his job right. Elimination of income tax exemptions for the feudal elite will bring in so much revenue, the government can actually cut consumption taxes (which target the poor disproportionately anyway) on basic necessities.

 

[rubyjackass]

Imran Khan is a man with a Vision while Nawaz is a man with TeleVision.

nice one. You should start a punchy one-liner series on this topic.

 

[Jihad]

Pakistan has many honest people who want to do the RIGHT thing, but the corrupt system works AGAINST them. An honest police officer or tax official has no hope of prosecuting criminals because his own boss is likely corrupt and will probably punish him instead for going after the crooks.

Therefore, the change has to come from the top. When Imran Khan goes after the biggest crooks to make it clear that no one is above the law, it will send a signal downstream. Establishment of independent anti-corruption hotlines and investigative bodies with power to indict even the topmost crooks will embolden the ordinary citizen to do his job right. Elimination of income tax exemptions for the feudal elite will bring in so much revenue, the government can actually cut consumption taxes (which target the poor disproportionately anyway) on basic necessities.

Very well explained, wish I could've expressed myself that way!

Beauty of Democracy even PPP say the same. We need to move forward.

Sometimes I wonder, is it really worth my time to try and convince people like you? Because I often feel people with your mindset have their heads stuck in the sand and do not wish for any change.
But I guess, for Pakistan to prosper, our people HAVE to convince one another that change is indeed not so far away, and that they too can be a part of that.

 

[Tiger Awan]

Sometimes I wonder, is it really worth my time to try and convince people like you? Because I often feel people with your mindset have their heads stuck in the sand and do not wish for any change.
But I guess, for Pakistan to prosper, our people HAVE to convince one another that change is indeed not so far away, and that they too can be a part of that.

I want change but tell me how? That IK is not corrupt and that will force his sub-ordinates to become good officers is not a realist approach. There are Dinosaurs in our system. Much more powerful than Government and they hijack the system. The same question was asked by Talat and IK couldnt impress me atleast with his answers

Distracted from what? It's you who are getting distracted from the fake promises of PML-N who did nothing last time around.

I just gave an example of a corrupt person in Pti and you started its beauty of democracy etc I think we were talking about IK and 90 days

 

[Zarvan]

Leaders who claim to change things in 90 days are liars: Nawaz


By Ferya Ilyas
Published: June 20, 2012


MINGORA: Leaders who say they will change the current situation in just 90 days are liars, the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Chief Nawaz Sharif said on Wednesday.

Speaking at a rally in Mingora, Swat, Nawaz said the people who make such claims either have no experience in politics nor have any expertise.

“PML-N will change things here and serve the people as it has done in the past,” he stressed.
Criticising the incumbent Pakistan Peoples Party-led government, the PML-N chief said that the people had not voted them into power to create trouble for the country.

“Everyone can see what has happened to Pakistan under their leadership,” he said pointedly.
He also added that despite PPP’s arrogance, their prime minister had to go home in the end.

Defending against accusations levelled against the PML-N of being a friendly opposition to the PPP, Nawaz said his party has only focused on serving the people and ignored allegations.

Addressing youngsters present in the rally, Nawaz said that there are some politicians who are trying to hijack the youth.

“The young people are aware of the fact that who is honest to Pakistan and who will serve the country better,” he said, adding that PML-N during its days in power brought great pride to the green passport.

PML-N leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, while speaking to the rally, too criticised Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan without taking his name.

“Those who talk about tsunami all the time are not aware of real politics,” he said, adding that Imran always talk about cricket but he does not know that politics is about serving people and not about ‘bowling politicians out’.

Nisar said that Nawaz is the only leader who does not make hollow statements and honours his promises.

“During Nawaz’s tenure, Pakistan was progressing at a rate faster than any other country in the region,” he reminded the rally.

Nawaz Can't change anything even in 900 Days because he is a corrupt man but Imran Khan can because he is an honest man and he will bring an honest team and as corruption from top will stop so the problem will automatically will start getting solved

I want change but tell me how? That IK is not corrupt and that will force his sub-ordinates to become good officers is not a realist approach. There are Dinosaurs in our system. Much more powerful than Government and they hijack the system. The same question was asked by Talat and IK couldnt impress me atleast with his answers



I just gave an example of a corrupt person in Pti and you started its beauty of democracy etc I think we were talking about IK and 90 days

They hijack the system because of corrupt leaders Like Zardari and Nawaz

 

[truthseer]

I just gave an example of a corrupt person in Pti and you started its beauty of democracy etc I think we were talking about IK and 90 days

No, I stated that it's the beauty of the system that you're allowed to criticise candidates. Let's see if Imran lets him contest again. The public will decide who gets to stand. And that's where he's brought change which Nawaz still has not!

 

[AstanoshKhan]

Translation: Imran Khan is the only politician whose house falls under the loadshedding for 18 - 20 hours. This story was recently broadcasted in Talat's show.

Imran Rocked, Nawaz Shocked.

 

[Tiger Awan]

Translation: Imran Khan is the only politician whose house falls under the loadshedding for 18 - 20 hours. This story was recently broadcasted in Talat's show.

Imran Rocked, Nawaz Shocked.

same is the case with model town and Jati Umra!!

No, I stated that it's the beauty of the system that you're allowed to criticise candidates. Let's see if Imran lets him contest again. The public will decide who gets to stand. And that's where he's brought change which Nawaz still has not!

Its not about Party ticket only, what if his corruption continues even if someone else is elected????

If IK cant force a party member to stop corruption how can he stop whole country