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Lead Sinovac vaccine scientist in Indonesia dies of suspected COVID-19, media say

I'm sure our health officials and ministers are more well read than you. :lol:

Stop bullshitting, most Singaporeans are inoculated with mRNA vaccines.

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Do Singaporean have another choice apart from mRNA vaccines?

just because Kenneth Mak in his opinion considered Pfizer vaccines is the best and he decides that it is the best despite the fact recent study shows Pfizer has an efficacy of only 60% against India or Delta Virus.
It is worth the risk of all the side effect like the dead 16-year old.

So who is bullshitting in here.

You are unworthy and a waste of time with such an one track authoritarian attitude.
 
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Do Singaporean have another choice apart from mRNA vaccines?

just because Kenneth Mak in his opinion considered Pfizer vaccines is the best and he decides that it is the best despite the fact recent study shows Pfizer has an efficacy of only 60% against India or Delta Virus.
It is worth the risk of all the side effect like the dead 16-year old.

So who is bullshitting in here.

You are unworthy and a waste of time with such an one track authoritarian attitude.

Facts speak for themselves. You're the who claim that "many well read Singaporean prefer Sinovac", when you have no numbers to back it up.

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My Singapore Friend said that their Ministry Of Health is run by a non Doctor so it is not efficient and has politics involved instead of saying lives.
 
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Facts speak for themselves. You're the who claim that "many well read Singaporean prefer Sinovac", when you have no numbers to back it up.

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:coffee::sarcastic::sarcastic:

It is hilarious especially when one made an allegation and now wanted us to prove it.
That is what US and Indian trolls do?

US claimed Sinovac does not worked but Indonesia disputed it as a media lies.
Jakarta said it is words taken out of context and ordered millions more doses of Sinovac. Unless someone is saying Jokowi does not care for the safety of fellow Indonesians. Are you saying that?

I just saw a Hong Kong News Media report. They are questioning whether Singapore Minister Ong Yee Kung in his explanation is trying to imply Singapore MoH standard is higher than that of United Nation W.H.O.

So it is Kenneth Mak versus all the virologists at W.H.O.
That is a fact today.

Great argument. :cheers:

BTW stop showing the posting the same thing in your reply and wasting the bandwidth. Those are not facts.

You have answered my question to you on how did US Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer and Moderna arrived at those efficacy numbers.

Democracy is all about people choice and not a trustee decision done without consultation nor transparency.

Your meat is my poison. Get it.
 
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Pfizer has been fined over $4.7 billion since 2000 for false claims acts, off-label or unapproved promotion, Foreign corrupt practices, with over $103M for "drug or medical equip safety violations" & over $34M for "kickbacks & bribery
 
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Pfizer has been fined over $4.7 billion since 2000 for false claims acts, off-label or unapproved promotion, Foreign corrupt practices, with over $103M for "drug or medical equip safety violations" & over $34M for "kickbacks & bribery
Wow They probably paid Trump to fast track the pfizer vaccine.
 
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Guangzhou has no local infections for more than 20 days. Most of its new cases there were originated India - Delta Virus

Since China only vaccinated its own population only with its own vaccines. This means these vaccines are effective against India Virus or Delta. Since no one having the vaccination is hospitalized.

According to studies, after the second dose, the antibody of all the recipients are almost similar.
Pfizer is listed as only 60% effective against Delta variant.

Now we have to look at the long term side effects.

With mRNA vaccines we run a long term risks with neurotic problems and heart inflammation.

That is why a friend of mine suddenly developed shingles on her legs and she has trouble walking and that is after 2 months.
Now she is hospitalized.
Another one has severe heart palpitation and was hospitalized.
We can't linked them to Pfizer vaccines due to the period but similar cases have been reported in USA

That is why many well read Singaporean prefer Sinovac and are will to line up for it at private clinics.

I think they should opt for Moderna.

30ml vs 100ml.

Moderna seems to be safer, and at an almost similar result or even better.
 
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Stop the misinformation.

There were originally 3 strains. The master genome is in USA called Strain A.

Wuhan is just a mutation Strain B.

The deadly and highly contagious India Virus or B1.617 is also mutation but its mutation occurred in India.

The first case of most countries including India did not come from Wuhan or China so stop your blame game.

Today there are almost 1000 mutation in India alone.

No, that's not how it works.
Strain A appeared in China but was quickly supplanted by B...which is what Delta is now doing in Asia and moving westward..

Strain A was not supplanted by B in the US.
 
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No, that's not how it works.
Strain A appeared in China but was quickly supplanted by B...which is what Delta is now doing in Asia and moving westward..

Strain A was not supplanted by B in the US.
That is not what researchers report from Cambridge read.

STOP trolling and distorting facts.


Strain A the master genome is from USA and incidently USA has all the strains inside there today.

Wuhan strain is identified and marked as B.

Strain C refers to those infecting Europe.
 
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I would waste my time replying to more or less the same thing.

 
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That is not what researchers report from Cambridge read.

STOP trolling and distorting facts.

Strain A the master genome is from USA and incidently USA has all the strains inside there today.

Wuhan strain is identified and marked as B.

Strain C refers to those infecting Europe.

YES IT DID you liar. Did you even bother reading it?? Are you using facts interpretation with "Chinese characteristics" or something?

Here is that University of Cambridge report:

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Researchers from Cambridge, UK, and Germany have reconstructed the early 'evolutionary paths' of SARS-CoV-2 in humans – as infection spread from Wuhan out to Europe and North America – using genetic network techniques.'

Forster and colleagues found that the closest type of SARS-CoV-2 to the one discovered in bats – type ‘A’, the “original human virus genome” – was present in Wuhan, but surprisingly was not the city’s predominant virus type.

Versions of ‘A’ were seen in Chinese individuals, and Americans reported to have lived in Wuhan, and mutated versions of ‘A’ were found in patients from the USA and Australia.

Wuhan’s major virus type, ‘B’, was prevalent in patients from across East Asia. However, the variant didn’t travel much beyond the region without further mutations – implying a 'founder event' in Wuhan, or 'resistance' against this type of coronavirus outside East Asia, say researchers.

YOU ARE BY FAR THE BIGGEST LYING CLOWN ON PDF

Stop bullshitting,

He sure does. Everything coming out of his mouth is suspect.
 
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