Le Pen in Lebanon controversy over headscarf refusal

[HannibalBarca]

She was not denied entry. She said she wont do this and turned around.

Whats your problem? You want push that over her head and drag her in?

Easy example, you invite me and my girl for dinner. We arrive and you suddenly pull out that rug and tell my girl to cover her head.

You know what will happen? I will wish you a nice evening and leave on the spot. My women does not cover her head. It is disrespectful to demand that. An insult.



I love Trump and support him 100%. Even so he is too moderate for my opinion.

That said, Lebanon is not a muslim country. Large parts of the people are christian. Infact more christians than sunni muslims.

Madame lePen had excellent meetings with the christian bishop there.

You right... with your situation. But she's a politician... not a simple " woman". Putting a scarf is not to "enslave" or anything else for that particular situation, it's just a "show of" respect. it's like when you get to russia and wear their hats or india or japan...
She refused bc she feared to lose voters... be assured that if no camera was around, even the Hijab she will wear...

 

[AViet]

Wrong. She did not go Lebanon to ask for welfare money, to live there or get asylum. She came as a politician.

Respectful of others?

Is this respectful of others?

This is in London!

We are simply sick of this.

Its an easy thing. I´m italian. My girl is italian. Italian women do not cover their head. You invite us as guest so you have to respect us the way we are.

If you demand my girl to cover herself up you insult me and her. You disrespect us. You demand that we submit into something we arent and sorry this wont gonna happen.

If italians come and ask for asylum and welfare in pakistan we can debate your claim.


Marine le Pen is a great example and role model regarding that.

@Vergennes @flamer84

The issue here is the relative strength of Lebanon compared to France.

I doubt she dare to do this in China or Japan or Russia, even if they want her to wear some ridiculous cloths. She surely will jump and says something like "I'm proud to be like a Chinese (or Japanese or Russian)", and I am quite sure she hate the Chinese and its culture as much as the Muslims, if not more.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Thats wrong.

Wearing a hat in russia is fun. You can do it or not do it. Its a symbolic act. Putting a veil on a women is to show her that she is lower than an animal. Marine lePen is a french polititian. She is a highly intellectual women. Women do not stand under men. Its that easy.

When you demand a women to wear that veil you belittle her.

I dont know how well you know our religion.

Our holy father is the highest representant on earth for us. when you meet him in the Vatican women do cover her head:

But the pope will not insist on it:

Thats exactly the difference.

Marine lePen showed the right reaction. She looked in disgust at the guy who brought her the veil. He even followed her outside but she left anyways.

The time for cucks is over. Western politicians in the future wont be as submissive anymore.

Our own PM Renzi was a cuck as well. He is gone my friend. So prepare for the same behavior Marine lePen showed here. The tide has changed. Politicians want win elections. You dont win elections with being a cuck any longer.

At least , you showed us that "your" religion do the same. and before you jump on yours little horses.. lepen was with the mufti in cairo too and she didn't wear the veil... So eitherway we do not force no one...
Her reaction in lebanon was inappropriate and childish. Period

PS: you seems to have few fantasy about Islam and the veil... don't worry, muslman woman in the "MAJORITY" of muslim countries choose to wear it or not.. come down to earth...

Those where it's forced it's few GCC countries and Iran... (= around 130-150 Mil ppl, muslims around the world is 2 Bil...)

Egypt:

 

[TMA]

Why go to meet the top cleric of a nation if you don't want to adhere to protocol.

planned propaganda

Exactly. She knew this was the protocol beforehand. She ought not to have gone in the first place to meet him.

No such thing as bad publicity.

no, it is rude to tell her that you demand she covers her head. you say with that she is a less worth human being. Its opression in its purest form.

The time of this cucked behavior is over. People of the west have bowed for this nonsense far too long.

Also what is your problem? She denied to meet him. Thats her god given right. She did not force her way into his house. He said she must cover up for the meeting, so she denied to meet with him. Obviously she has some self respect.

Was the Blessed Virgin Mary oppressed? When the Messiah (PBUH) returns and should Marine Le Pen wish to meet him what will happen? A replay of what happened in Lebanon??

 

[NakedLunch]

Was the Blessed Virgin Mary oppressed? When the Messiah (PBUH) returns and should Marine Le Pen wish to meet him what will happen? A replay of what happened in Lebanon??

Europe is post-Christian. This nonsense they espouse about Christian values is just that- nonsense. It is disingenuous. If these Christians had actually read the Bible they would realise that the three Abrahamic faiths are not that far apart. I have read the Bible and I can tell you there is a lot in there that is almost identical to Islam for example zina bil ayn , ie fornication with the eyes, is in St Paul's letters to the Ephesians. These people are liars.

 

[TMA]

Europe is post-Christian. This nonsense they espouse about Christian values is just that- nonsense. It is disingenuous. If these Christians had actually read the Bible they would realise that the three Abrahamic faiths are not that far apart. I have read the Bible and I can tell you there is a lot in there that is almost identical to Islam for example zina bil ayn , ie fornication with the eyes, is in St Paul's letters to the Ephesians. These people are liars.

You are correct. Western Europe (West in general?) is the heart of the Anti-Christian "Empire". It is a shame.

 

[NakedLunch]

You are correct. Western Europe (West in general?) is the heart of the Anti-Christian "Empire". It is a shame.

Christians are more honest than Zionist Jews. Read the Bible, both Testaments and then read the Thalmud, Sanhedrin and those other Jewish writings. You will see who believe in Righteousness and who are racist tribe worshipping liars.

 

[schoolboy]

I find it amusing that all those yelling 'their house their rules' would cheerfully scream blue murder if a burqa-clad muslim woman was forced to take that off in a western country. When that happens they become experts on civil rights, liberalism and religous freedom.

People of the west are the most ardent practitioners of forcing ideology on the people of the rest of the world through coercion or force

Shortlisted for nonsensical post of the day

 

[hussain0216]

I find it amusing that all those yelling 'their house their rules' would cheerfully scream blue murder if a burqa-clad muslim woman was forced to take that off in a western country. When that happens they become experts on civil rights, liberalism and religous freedom.



Shortlisted for nonsensical post of the day

No one forced le pen to wear a hijab in Egypt when she went, nor lebanon

she is entering someones home and house rules apply.

We bemoan in the west the proclamation of individual freedoms then the attempting forcing of muslim women to dress according to their own standards.
The same rules apply here if you go to soneones home and they are not comfortable with your dress thsts their right, walk away and leave them


also you have a very shoddy grasp if history if you are not aware of the western attempt to spread their ideology across the world from the colonial period onwards

 

[vostok]

I have always supported the policy and words of Madame Le Pen, but this time, I am not sure if she is right. If she ever comes to Orthodox Church - no matter in France, Lebanon or Russia I want her to wear headscarf as our tradition tells women to do.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I have always supported the policy and words of Madame Le Pen, but this time, I am not sure if she is right. If she ever comes to Orthidix Church - no matter in France, Lebanon or Russia i want her to wear headscarf as our tradition told women to do.

It's a show of mutual respect, nothing less nothing more. so +1
even thou Lepen saying is garbage...
ps: even Putin do not play this card of saying muslim that or immigrant that...

 

[HannibalBarca]

Virgin Mary is portrayed with open hair as well. So your argument is baseless

Also on paintings he is portraied with uncovered women in the Vatican

So what if Jesus returns? Do you honestly believe he would care if a women covers her head?

No european women must cover her head. Its that easy. You have to accept it, because the new right wing leaders in Europe dont bow down to this any longer.

You dont win votes in Europe any longer when you act like a cuck. The swedish government group that visited Iran and did wear a veil was labeleld "Walk of shame" and got thousands of angry comments.

Tolerance is weakness. Its that easy.

Lol Tolerance weakness... thanks God, jesus did not see that... jesus became JESUS son of the Virgin Mary because of his Tolerance to the Ppl of Judea...

if you want to play with MAry with veil or not.. no one gonna win

PS: at that time all woman wear veil...

 

[hussain0216]

Virgin Mary is portrayed with open hair as well. So your argument is baseless

Also on paintings he is portraied with uncovered women in the Vatican

So what if Jesus returns? Do you honestly believe he would care if a women covers her head?

No european women must cover her head. Its that easy. You have to accept it, because the new right wing leaders in Europe dont bow down to this any longer.

You dont win votes in Europe any longer when you act like a cuck. The swedish government group that visited Iran and did wear a veil was labeleld "Walk of shame" and got thousands of angry comments.

Tolerance is weakness. Its that easy.

who are those Europeans in those paintings

if you cant get the skin colour and features right then dont talk for Jesus or Mary

 

[Tiger Genie]

why is this a big deal? as long as she is decently dressed.
If it is so important the mullah could have said no to meeting her.

 

[hussain0216]

why is this a big deal? as long as she is decently dressed.
If it is so important the mullah could have said no to meeting her.

she came to meet him knowing the protocol

she was refused entry for not respecting house rules and turned away