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LCA Tejas Reveals More Indigenous Features !

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White and Green with M/S said:
Looks your ancient Vedic war tex of MAHABARTHA
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There is nothing called Venamas in Mahabharat and Mahabharat is not vedic text. Vedic texts are Rig, Yajur, Atharvana and Sama. So pls enlighten us.
Windjammer said:
The narrative put up by chhatrapati is a typical Gobar Parsad rant to salvage some bruised ego...or as they say in our part of the world....Chor Machaye Shor.
It's no secret that it took all major players around the globe for Bharti Basanti to get induced with Tejas.
Once all was presented on a platter, there's no question who just did the nuts and bolts and did the paint job....the only thing indigenous on Tejas were only the Indian Coconuts and Lemons to bless it.

What actually happened between 1983 and 2000? First, let us take the promise of indigenous development. In 1986 an agreement was quietly signed with the United States that permitted DRDO to work with four US Air force laboratories. The to-be-indigenously-developed engine for the LCA -- Kaveri -- was forgotten and the US made General Electric F-404 engine was substituted. Radar was sourced from Erricson Ferranti, carbon-fibre composite panels for wings from Alenia and fly-by-wire controls from Lockheed Martin. Design help was sought from British Aerospace, Avion Marcel Dassault and Deutsche Aerospace. Wind tunnel testing was done in the US, Russia and France. As for armaments -- missiles, guns, rockets and bombs -- every last item was to be imported.
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Windy one straight question; if tomorrow China stops helping in building JF 17... Can Pakistan build JF 17 with the help of other countries.. India can build Tejas if any country stops their supplies of Tejas with help of other countries.
 
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Vanamali said:
There is nothing called Venamas in Mahabharat and Mahabharat is not vedic text. Vedic texts are Rig, Yajur, Atharvana and Sama. So pls enlighten us.

Windy one straight question; if tomorrow China stops helping in building JF 17... Can Pakistan build JF 17 with the help of other countries.. India can build Tejas if any country stops their supplies of Tejas with help of other countries.
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😂 Hahaha 😀😀😀 delusional if USA will stop engine supply can you make engine at home 😂😂
 
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Windjammer said:
The narrative put up by chhatrapati is a typical Gobar Parsad rant to salvage some bruised ego...or as they say in our part of the world....Chor Machaye Shor.
It's no secret that it took all major players around the globe for Bharti Basanti to get induced with Tejas.
Once all was presented on a platter, there's no question who just did the nuts and bolts and did the paint job....the only thing indigenous on Tejas were only the Indian Coconuts and Lemons to bless it.

What actually happened between 1983 and 2000? First, let us take the promise of indigenous development. In 1986 an agreement was quietly signed with the United States that permitted DRDO to work with four US Air force laboratories. The to-be-indigenously-developed engine for the LCA -- Kaveri -- was forgotten and the US made General Electric F-404 engine was substituted. Radar was sourced from Erricson Ferranti, carbon-fibre composite panels for wings from Alenia and fly-by-wire controls from Lockheed Martin. Design help was sought from British Aerospace, Avion Marcel Dassault and Deutsche Aerospace. Wind tunnel testing was done in the US, Russia and France. As for armaments -- missiles, guns, rockets and bombs -- every last item was to be imported.
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Prove it! With neutral sources.

For other people wondering, look up journal papers for LCA. Our scientists have always published our findings in extremely reputed papers. When I was a student I had membership into IEEE society. It was amazing to read back then the research and development that happened on the Tejas.


People who have amazing instagram skills should user photoshop or whatever app teenage girls use these days on their phones to further their agenda on instagram. Trying that on a popular forum is actually a disgrace for the forum's reputation..
 
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Vanamali said:
There is nothing called Venamas in Mahabharat and Mahabharat is not vedic text. Vedic texts are Rig, Yajur, Atharvana and Sama. So pls enlighten
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Don't troll you know very well what is i am talking about , Just Google this word ànd hear the magic 😂😂
 
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White and Green with M/S said:
😂 Hahaha 😀😀😀 delusional if USA will stop engine supply can you make engine at home 😂😂
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You are right we can't but then you lot come and question indigenous content and capability when you needed the Chinese help to make the trainer version or complete overhaul.

We cannot make an engine but we can buy another one from another country and make necessary changes to the airframe structure all by ourselves. We have never claimed the Tejas to be 100% indigenous, heck! our MOD publishes a report that even you guys read.

But when a country severely lacks in engineering and research capability, you need to get off the high horse you think you are riding.

Heck give me the name and credentials of the chief designer of your 5th gen aircraft! Which agencies are involved? can you give me links to journal papers on 5th gen fuselage design, stealth, etc from agencies that are supposedly involved in your NG plane?

I know -- you can't!
 
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mig25 said:
Prove it! With neutral sources.

For other people wondering, look up journal papers for LCA. Our scientists have always published our findings in extremely reputed papers. When I was a student I had membership into IEEE society. It was amazing to read back then the research and development that happened on the Tejas.


People who have amazing instagram skills should user photoshop or whatever app teenage girls use these days on their phones to further their agenda on instagram. Trying that on a popular forum is actually a disgrace for the forum's reputation..
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Please post these research papers, if not you're is one of the fake expert/ troll that's trying to be hero

We are not saying that all research is done by foriegners but most of critical research was done by foriegners because you had no capability to do these kind of research back than
 
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mig25 said:
You are right we can't but then you lot come and question indigenous content and capability when you needed the Chinese help to make the trainer version or complete overhaul.

We cannot make an engine but we can buy another one from another country and make necessary changes to the airframe structure all by ourselves. We have never claimed the Tejas to be 100% indigenous, heck! our MOD publishes a report that even you guys read.

But when a country severely lacks in engineering and research capability, you need to get off the high horse you think you are riding.

Heck give me the name and credentials of the chief designer of your 5th gen aircraft! Which agencies are involved? can you give me links to journal papers on 5th gen fuselage design, stealth, etc from agencies that are supposedly involved in your NG plane?

I know -- you can't!
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Please prove it first you did all critical reaserch for your Tejas/ LCA project ànd and we have minimal aviation capability, we are developing these capability through JFT project we didn't calling JFT project as our indigenous project, do you know what is the meaning of JF?, you are claiming that's your Tejas 💯% indigenous product of India so its burdens upon you guys to prove your points that's your Tejas is 💯% Indian product lol
 
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White and Green with M/S said:
Don't troll you know very well what is i am talking about , Just Google this word ànd hear the magic 😂😂
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I did and even Google could not give answer.. you can see the the attachment
White and Green with M/S said:
😂 Hahaha 😀😀😀 delusional if USA will stop engine supply can you make engine at home 😂😂
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We will get engine from other country and will redesign the frame and will build another plane... Now coming to Pak can it do??
 

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Bossman said:
So what’s the purpose of the whole exercise? Have an operational just fighter in large numbers at a reasonable cost to replace obsolete aircraft or simply design an aircraft for the sake of designing one.

The original purpose of the Tejas was to replace large number of Mig 21 and 27s in IAF inventory. Has that purpose been achieved? BTW I stand corrected, it has been in development for 40 years not 30.
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First flight was in 2001 of the prototype. 40 years back we could barely cover one or two months of import. The project was conceptualized when we were under sanctions, and isolation. So your argument of time frame does not matter.

The purpose of Tejas is explained in detail in here and countless threads. Refer to them
 
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White and Green with M/S said:
Please post these research papers, if not you're is one of the fake expert/ troll that's trying to be hero

We are not saying that all research is done by foriegners but most of critical research was done by foriegners because you had no capability to do these kind of research back than
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Inter system EMC tests on Indian Light Combat Aircraft
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Inter system EMC tests on Indian Light Combat Aircraft

System level EMI/EMC tests were carried out on the Indian Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) prior to its maiden flight. This paper discusses the various aspects of testing, execution and performance of the system level EMI/EMC tests on LCA.
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Perfecting Handling Qualities Assessment Task on Simulator and Outcome of Actual Flight Test for Air to Air Refueling
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Perfecting Handling Qualities Assessment Task on Simulator and Outcome of Actual Flight Test for Air to Air Refueling

The Air to Air Refueling (AAR) is a force multiplier in application of airpower. Flight testing task for the Indian Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas was accomplished in August 2018. This paper presents the philosophy of clearing the Control Laws (CLAW) by Handling Qualities (HQ) assessment...
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Relook at Aileron to Rudder Interconnect

Stress Testing Control Law Code using Randomized NRT Testing

NUMERICAL SIMULATION TO INVESTIGATE THE EFFECT OF OBSTACLE ON DETONATION WAVE PROPAGATION IN A PULSE DETONATION ENGINE COMBUSTOR

Flight Calibration of Flow Angularity Sensors on Tejas Using Advanced Parameter Estimation Techniques
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Flow Anlaysis on Hal Tejas Aircraft using Computational Fluid Dynamics with Different Angle of Attack

Clearance of Flight-Control-System Software with Hardware-in-Loop Test Platform

Ensuring Software Quality-Experiences of Testing Tejas Airdata Software

ASSESSMENT OF HANDLING QUALITIES OF LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT (LCA-TEJAS) IN AIR-TO-AIR ATTACK MODE BY ANALYSIS OF HEAD-UP DISPLAY (HUD) VIDEO OF THE CHASE AIRCRAFT

ASSESSMENT OF HANDLING QUALITIES OF LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT (LCA-TEJAS) IN AIR-TO-AIR ATTACK MODE BY ANALYSIS OF HEAD-UP DISPLAY (HUD) VIDEO OF THE CHASE AIRCRAFT

repository.arizona.edu repository.arizona.edu

A stochastic approach towards cycle time reduction for aircraft manufacturing assembly
www.inderscienceonline.com

A stochastic approach towards cycle time reduction for aircraft manufacturing assembly | International Journal of Product Lifecycle Management

To enhance performance effectiveness, the design of aircraft system and components must incorporate the radical technologies in all specialisations. As the technology advances, the corresponding complexity also advances. Hence, there is a need to design the aircraft systems and subsystems with...
www.inderscienceonline.com

Automated Aircraft Sheet Metal Component Production Technologies

Lightning test facility for light combat aircraft
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Lightning test facility for light combat aircraft

With the increased use of composites and sensitive electronic systems on board a fighter aircraft, there is a necessity to design the aircraft structure and systems to withstand lightning strike-both direct and indirect. A comprehensive lightning test facility has been established in Bangalore...
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Design and Analysis of a 3 kVA, 28 V Permanent Magnet Brushless Alternator for Light Combat Aircraft
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Design and Analysis of a 3 kVA, 28 V Permanent Magnet Brushless Alternator for Light Combat Aircraft

Permanent magnet (PM) brushless machines have been increasingly used in aircrafts and automobiles due to their light weight, small size, high efficiency, high reliability, variable speed operation and good dynamic performance. The Permanent Magnet Brush less Alternator has a permanent-magnet...
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Airworthiness Certification of Metallic and Non-metallic Materials: The Indian Approach and Methodologies
link.springer.com

Airworthiness Certification of Metallic and Non-metallic Materials: The Indian Approach and Methodologies

The Indian scenario of airworthiness certification and philosophy of certification of metallic and non-metallic materials and approach, the classification of materials based on their criticality of application and agencies involved in certification activity, and...
link.springer.com link.springer.com

Design and Implementation of a Smart Automated OUT-ward (SAT OUT) System Using ARM Processor for Aircrafts
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Design and Implementation of a Smart Automated OUT-ward (SAT OUT) System Using ARM Processor for Aircrafts

Advanced systems are intended to be spruce and more intellect, capable of handling the functionalities of various analogous components with a intelligible motive of nearing to the desired output of the latter. With an o`nymous conducive features adduced with the ARM7TDMI processor, today's...
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Exploring Model-Based Portfolio Design Optimization for Modern Combat Aircrafts Selection Utilizing MATE and EEA Methods


Here is a random number I selected for you to view. For more conference and/or journal papers, feel free to hit DRDO, NAL, ADA websites or use google.
 
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mig25 said:
Inter system EMC tests on Indian Light Combat Aircraft
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Inter system EMC tests on Indian Light Combat Aircraft

System level EMI/EMC tests were carried out on the Indian Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) prior to its maiden flight. This paper discusses the various aspects of testing, execution and performance of the system level EMI/EMC tests on LCA.
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Perfecting Handling Qualities Assessment Task on Simulator and Outcome of Actual Flight Test for Air to Air Refueling
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Perfecting Handling Qualities Assessment Task on Simulator and Outcome of Actual Flight Test for Air to Air Refueling

The Air to Air Refueling (AAR) is a force multiplier in application of airpower. Flight testing task for the Indian Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas was accomplished in August 2018. This paper presents the philosophy of clearing the Control Laws (CLAW) by Handling Qualities (HQ) assessment...
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Relook at Aileron to Rudder Interconnect

Stress Testing Control Law Code using Randomized NRT Testing

NUMERICAL SIMULATION TO INVESTIGATE THE EFFECT OF OBSTACLE ON DETONATION WAVE PROPAGATION IN A PULSE DETONATION ENGINE COMBUSTOR

Flight Calibration of Flow Angularity Sensors on Tejas Using Advanced Parameter Estimation Techniques
[/URL]

Flow Anlaysis on Hal Tejas Aircraft using Computational Fluid Dynamics with Different Angle of Attack

Clearance of Flight-Control-System Software with Hardware-in-Loop Test Platform

Ensuring Software Quality-Experiences of Testing Tejas Airdata Software

ASSESSMENT OF HANDLING QUALITIES OF LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT (LCA-TEJAS) IN AIR-TO-AIR ATTACK MODE BY ANALYSIS OF HEAD-UP DISPLAY (HUD) VIDEO OF THE CHASE AIRCRAFT

ASSESSMENT OF HANDLING QUALITIES OF LIGHT COMBAT AIRCRAFT (LCA-TEJAS) IN AIR-TO-AIR ATTACK MODE BY ANALYSIS OF HEAD-UP DISPLAY (HUD) VIDEO OF THE CHASE AIRCRAFT

repository.arizona.edu repository.arizona.edu

A stochastic approach towards cycle time reduction for aircraft manufacturing assembly
www.inderscienceonline.com

A stochastic approach towards cycle time reduction for aircraft manufacturing assembly | International Journal of Product Lifecycle Management

To enhance performance effectiveness, the design of aircraft system and components must incorporate the radical technologies in all specialisations. As the technology advances, the corresponding complexity also advances. Hence, there is a need to design the aircraft systems and subsystems with...
www.inderscienceonline.com

Automated Aircraft Sheet Metal Component Production Technologies

Lightning test facility for light combat aircraft
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Lightning test facility for light combat aircraft

With the increased use of composites and sensitive electronic systems on board a fighter aircraft, there is a necessity to design the aircraft structure and systems to withstand lightning strike-both direct and indirect. A comprehensive lightning test facility has been established in Bangalore...
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Design and Analysis of a 3 kVA, 28 V Permanent Magnet Brushless Alternator for Light Combat Aircraft
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Design and Analysis of a 3 kVA, 28 V Permanent Magnet Brushless Alternator for Light Combat Aircraft

Permanent magnet (PM) brushless machines have been increasingly used in aircrafts and automobiles due to their light weight, small size, high efficiency, high reliability, variable speed operation and good dynamic performance. The Permanent Magnet Brush less Alternator has a permanent-magnet...
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Airworthiness Certification of Metallic and Non-metallic Materials: The Indian Approach and Methodologies
link.springer.com

Airworthiness Certification of Metallic and Non-metallic Materials: The Indian Approach and Methodologies

The Indian scenario of airworthiness certification and philosophy of certification of metallic and non-metallic materials and approach, the classification of materials based on their criticality of application and agencies involved in certification activity, and...
link.springer.com link.springer.com

Design and Implementation of a Smart Automated OUT-ward (SAT OUT) System Using ARM Processor for Aircrafts
ieeexplore.ieee.org

Design and Implementation of a Smart Automated OUT-ward (SAT OUT) System Using ARM Processor for Aircrafts

Advanced systems are intended to be spruce and more intellect, capable of handling the functionalities of various analogous components with a intelligible motive of nearing to the desired output of the latter. With an o`nymous conducive features adduced with the ARM7TDMI processor, today's...
ieeexplore.ieee.org ieeexplore.ieee.org

Exploring Model-Based Portfolio Design Optimization for Modern Combat Aircrafts Selection Utilizing MATE and EEA Methods


Here is a random number I selected for you to view. For more conference and/or journal papers, feel free to hit DRDO, NAL, ADA websites or use google.
Click to expand...
Thanks to West for giving you these technologies
 
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White and Green with M/S said:
Thanks to West for giving you these technologies
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Technology is a mere tool, it is the research that will help my nation. If you do know please educate us with proof what technologies were handed over to India by the West?

I knew I was preaching to the choir. I'm sure you didn't read even one paper to understand what effort and time is spent through the research. But, I don't blame you. Your attitude is not different from the scientific community in your country. It's very evident that such a climate doesn't even exist at levels that can make you capable of even nurturing an aviation industry that can also develop and not just produce. I am not claiming we are there, but we are building such foundations across various industries.


As a Country, Pakistan has always been closer to the west than India until recently. Nothing stopped Pakistan from getting technology from the west -- an example you use to diminish contributions from my country.
Ever wondered why you don't have that foundation I spoke about above? Pakistan just does not have the scientific community or neither a thirst to develop one. If you did, you would never belittle somebody's sincere efforts.
 
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mig25 said:
Technology is a mere tool, it is the research that will help my nation. If you do know please educate us with proof what technologies were handed over to India by the West?

I knew I was preaching to the choir. I'm sure you didn't read even one paper to understand what effort and time is spent through the research. But, I don't blame you. Your attitude is not different from the scientific community in your country. It's very evident that such a climate doesn't even exist at levels that can make you capable of even nurturing an aviation industry that can also develop and not just produce. I am not claiming we are there, but we are building such foundations across various industries.


As a Country, Pakistan has always been closer to the west than India until recently. Nothing stopped Pakistan from getting technology from the west -- an example you use to diminish contributions from my country.
Ever wondered why you don't have that foundation I spoke about above? Pakistan just does not have the scientific community or neither a thirst to develop one. If you did, you would never belittle somebody's sincere efforts.
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Yeah yeah you're HYPERPOWER OF THE UNIVERSE you can't make jet engine/ radars/ weapons systems for your IAF/IN/ IA ànd considered yourself you have better military tech than USA/ West/ Russia 😂😂😂
 
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