LCA Tejas is far superior than Mirage-2000 and the Chinese JF-17

[gambit]

I was under the impression that if the plane is dynamically stable (using FBW), you're actually less likely to experience any feedback from the control surfaces as the computer will constantly try to get the damping ratio close to zero.

Feedback is constant and it is actually the physical displacement of the surface.

http://hydraulicspneumatics.com/200/FPE/Sensors/Article/False/6440/FPE-Sensors

A position transducer typically consists of two fundamental parts. One part remains fixed in position while the other part moves with the mechanism whose displacement is being measured. The exact nature, and therefore the size, of the fixed and moving portions depend on the sensing technology being used. Some transducers are intended to be mounted integrally to the mechanism, while others are designed to be mounted externally.

There are two ways to do this.

The linear version would be inside the hydraulic actuator. The rotary version would be closer to the flight control surface itself. Using the rear horizontal stab for example, the rotary transducer would be mounted right at the fuselage mount. Most designs uses the integrated hydraulics linear version.

The feedback is not anything anomalous. The stability augmentation (stabaug) loop must know how much a flight control surface actually displaced in order to calculate the corrected final displacement command.

Look at it this way...The flight control surface moves and its physical travels is constantly monitored. If it over traveled, it will be immediately corrected. The entire correction process is transparent to the pilot.

 

[Talon]

lol, u have data of your flying records?

your JF-17 is not even worthy for IN to even consider, Not many countries able to make Navel plane , India tried at least.

I asked, why you buying F-16/ mirages / chines single engine plane, if u Have JFT ??? Thats says a lot about your understanding level.

your JFT cant even drop LGB's without Which IAF dont even look at it, cant say how PAF accept half completed plane and you ppl go gaga over it.


lol tejas Drops LGB's , while JFT still drop Bombs which Trainers plane can do also. what a shame country build trainer plane..

Here u go..

 

[prandtl]

I was under the impression that if the plane is dynamically stable (using FBW), you're actually less likely to experience any feedback from the control surfaces as the computer will constantly try to get the damping ratio close to zero.

If you wont get the feedback then how will control computer damp the response to zero?

 

[kabooter_maila]

It took 30+ years to fly and is only superior to JF17......

Should have been superior to everything that flies.....

After 30 years of (non-)development, believe me, Indian LCA is much better than flies. That's a pretty good achievement by Indian standard. And it's been produced in huge numbers (by Indian standard) i.e. 2 copies have been successfully produced so far.... Soooo, why bother?

 

[Windjammer]

X_Killer said: ↑
I want to add something that IAF do not use fighter aircrafts for missions in civilian areas to drop bombs on Terrorists. But these types of missions are casual for PAF.

@Windjammer please show when IAF bombed them

Well, you know what it's like, the Indians have decided to rewrite their history according to their own liking so it wouldn't come as a surprise if they have decided to delete the ''Aizwal'' chapter from it.

 

[MULUBJA]

Tejas is all set to emerge as a fully desi state of art plane. Recently, the news came that desi Uttam Radar with 150 KM detection range is ready for integration on TD 1. Kaveri is getting ready to deliver 60+ KN dry thrust and 90+ wet thrust. Aerodynamic improvement and weigh reduction will be made in 2017. All these put to gather make a Tejas a state of art plane and it will be master piece like ALH and Rudra. India will not be able to get anything better in the category.

 

[帅的一匹]

Tejas is all set to emerge as a fully desi state of art plane. Recently, the news came that desi Uttam Radar with 150 KM detection range is ready for integration on TD 1. Kaveri is getting ready to deliver 60+ KN dry thrust and 90+ wet thrust. Aerodynamic improvement and weigh reduction will be made in 2017. All these put to gather make a Tejas a state of art plane and it will be master piece like ALH and Rudra. India will not be able to get anything better in the category.

When Kaveri will be delivered?

 

[S.U.R.B.]

LCA Tejas is a good enough aircraft to take care of the domestic needs of the Indian airforce. That is all what matters actually.With the modern 4++ generation capabilities it sure can be able to find it's niche in the international market as well if HAL & DRDO show the intent to gain something out of this effort.

Minister of state for Defence, Dr. Subhash Bhamre, informed the Lok Sabha about the indigenous content of the fighter. Several parts of Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), Tejas is of foreign origin, but the Tejas is an indigenously designed and developed aircraft. Out of total 344 LRUs (Line Replaceable Units) involved in the system level of LCA, a total of 210 LRUs have been produced indigenously and balance 134 LRUs are being imported from foreign companies. Indigenous content of the LCA Tejas Aircraft is 59.7% by value and 75.5% by numbers.

To reduce dependence on foreign companies, out of the 134 imported LRUs, the indigenisation of 42 units is under progress. Further efforts are being made by way of indigenization with the objective to reduce the import content progressively. Consolidation of technical specification of imported units have been carried out and they are being projected for indigenisation by private companies, DRDO labs and HAL divisions.

All that AC comparisons are for noobs who don't understand how the weapon industry works these days.A waste of time.Most of the fighter jets that are put under same generation category are going to have more or less same spectrum of capabilities.Majority of those projects were not born on the same date either.It's not a like horse racing event.

 

[Alok Arya]

When Kaveri will be delivered?

Before any sw series , with better total flying hour life and mtbo .

Ws series

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plomat LOl the Indian shitty article. Again no substance just bulshit from your rear. Whythe fk should i google. The burden of proof lies on you


Dumbass as usual.

Is that why IN YOUR REPUBLIC DAY THERE WSAS pic of Jf 17 ?

read the post #252. youre not even worthy of response. Again dumbhead. Unlike IAf. Waiting for 30 years and more. Jf is evolving as we speak. With that our pilots are currently flying it and training on it in the meanwhile the techs are getting matured or acquired. HAlf completed plane what does that even mean ? means it doesnt flies and uses truck on republic days ?


@Windjammer please show when IAF bombed them

Airticle of diplomats but quoting source from INH Jane and from China's aviation industry . Please read it , before rejecting . I know your mental condition , you are totally in denial as of whole Pakistan from 1971 , but all these not going to change truth . This article quoting source from your new master named China .

 

[kabooter_maila]

Tejas is all set to emerge as a fully desi state of art plane. Recently, the news came that desi Uttam Radar with 150 KM detection range is ready for integration on TD 1. Kaveri is getting ready to deliver 60+ KN dry thrust and 90+ wet thrust. Aerodynamic improvement and weigh reduction will be made in 2017. All these put to gather make a Tejas a state of art plane and it will be master piece like ALH and Rudra. India will not be able to get anything better in the category.

This will be done, and that will be done too. Another thing is bound to happen and there is no dearth of resources for getting this system, that system, and that another system. All is good in future tense. The fool Indians love to build imaginary castles and live in future. At the end, these idiots achieve nothing.

 

[Alok Arya]

This will be done, and that will be done too. Another thing is bound to happen and there is no dearth of resources for getting this system, that system, and that another system. All is good in future tense. The fool Indians love to build imaginary castles and live in future. At the end, these idiots achieve nothing.

This will be done, and that will be done too. Another thing is bound to happen and there is no dearth of resources for getting this system, that system, and that another system. All is good in future tense. The fool Indians love to build imaginary castles and live in future. At the end, these idiots achieve nothing.

 

[ranadd]

One is made to address the needs of today with the cooperation with someone established to mitigate risks.

One is made to address the needs of tomorrow with less cooperation with others.

The system, materials used, components used etc. are all evident.

Now which is superior? Wait until both go at each other.

This will be done, and that will be done too. Another thing is bound to happen and there is no dearth of resources for getting this system, that system, and that another system. All is good in future tense. The fool Indians love to build imaginary castles and live in future. At the end, these idiots achieve nothing.

Seriously? A guy from Pakistan says Indians live in Imaginary castles?

 

[Centurion2016]

I repeat again

The Thunder is playing catch up to most of the IAF top line fighters (su30mki mirage2000 mig29)

Data linking
IRST
HMD
HOBS missles

This has

This will be done, and that will be done too. Another thing is bound to happen and there is no dearth of resources for getting this system, that system, and that another system. All is good in future tense. The fool Indians love to build imaginary castles and live in future. At the end, these idiots achieve nothing.

digest this SHOW ME what you PEOPLE BUILT that's in this class in this areas THEN COME BACK

INDENGIOUS INDIA SYSTEMS

LCA combat planes from first squdaron
LCH india,s very own apache combat helicopter
DRDO awacs
Dhruv Helicopter

 

[salarsikander]

Before any sw series , with better total flying hour life and mtbo .

Ws series


Airticle of diplomats but quoting source from INH Jane and from China's aviation industry . Please read it , before rejecting . I know your mental condition , you are totally in denial as of whole Pakistan from 1971 , but all these not going to change truth . This article quoting source from your new master named China .

Lol. Denial. Itnwas Nehru who said Pakistan wouldn't survive. A country with not even satationary and yet we manage to become nuke and are building jets with collaboration that are flying not waiting for FOC. Lool or rejected by IN

 

[Centurion2016]

Lol. Denial. Itnwas Nehru who said Pakistan wouldn't survive. A country with not even satationary and yet we manage to become nuke and are building jets with collaboration that are flying not waiting for FOC. Lool or rejected by IN

Jf17 is local assembly ie license build.

You pay 20 million plus to China for thunder

Don't compare to the indebgious weapons pictured above which are indian weapons designed by indians in India by indian companies