Lawyers shower Pakistan governor's assassin with rose petals

[Ganguly]

For the past two days all you are doing is repeating the same about Taseer's death. You are not contributing anything to this forum. If you see my past posts, you will see how much I contributed to the Economy section, Startegic and Geopolitical section, General Images section, etc... but you are just stuck on one topic Taseer's death and your unrealistic westernized secularist views for Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

And bring the authorities to my house. You got nothing on me. I am free to express my opinions on forums and in the streets.

Sick and tired of you bharatis always being so obsessed about me

And yea I'm anti-bharati everyone who knows me knows this about me even goraiys.

And anyone who disagrees with you is a fanatic jihadi.

This is because Indian members also contributed to these mentioned threads. You have no objective in any posts other than India bashing. Are you doing any good for your country? Nope. Better Indo-Pak relations will help both the countries. Why so much hate? Please remember this forum attracts lot of Indians and other nationals not because of your contributions but because of excellent liberal moderators. I am not an expert of Islam, but I am sure the great prophet (PBUH) wouldn’t rank people with similar attitude like yours very high.

 

[Meengla]

My ID CARD

Happy now?

At least I did not have any doubt that you were a Pakistani.
Even if you were a 'bharati' and not gloat over the miseries of Pakistan you would be ten times better than the Pakistani members directly/indirectly supporting a fanatic murderer. The blogspace is full of them. Here they are more reserved because moderators like TFaz, Agno, Asim Aquil etc don't tolerate incitement or support of terrorism. But it does not take much to understand what they are saying.

@Kidwaibhai,
There are more than a few here who jump on you with labels like 'crusader' and 'western arse lickers' while these people themselves live in the western countries who they call 'kuffars'. They enjoy the 'freedom of expression' in Western countries and quite conveniently deny the same to we 'liberals' back home. Hypocrites.

Only if they understand that we 'liberals' are safeguarding their own rights in Pakistan. Their own freedom of expression. I say this because when the real hardcore Islamic fundos take power they will enforce rigid code of conduct in clothing, speech, and eventually all aspects of life.

One crucial bit of connection not made by many is that the fundos have just tasted blood--almost literally--and so we are likely to see more and more Lal Masjid like takeovers and vigilantism in the name of religion. And we just lost 'the last man standing' against that too. Remember what happened in 2007 and what nasty role media played in the Lal Masjid fiasco? Well, that was just a trailer.

 

[ajtr]

Cheer the assassin!​

Cheer on my friends! Cheer on the assassin! Smile and clap your hands, chant odes to the ghazi’s bravery! Go ahead, applaud the darkness that is coming your way, because once it has taken you into its embrace, there’ll be no cheer left in your life.
Hail the assassin as your hero! Lift him up on your shoulders and show his brave deed to your children! Tell them to emulate his example and follow his footsteps! Kiss the ground he walked on! Congregate outside the prison that holds him and shout slogans so he hears your support through the walls. Because soon, the only heroes left in your life will be those with blood on their hands and death in their hearts.
Denounce the fallen governor! Denounce his licentious ways! Mock his speeches and drag his grieving wife and children through the dirt that is in your mind, your eyes! Question his faith: Was he a secret atheist? Fling all manner of ***** and dirt on his name and his ways, for soon there’ll be nothing left in your minds, other than the ***** of a faithless piety and the dirt of prejudice.
Sanctify the assassin’s bullet! Distill all your hatreds and frustrations into it! Place it on a pedestal and recite psalms of solemn servitude to it! Let it be the one fixed point in your life, your north star by which you navigate yourself towards your destiny! Let its line of travel, from muzzle to victim, be the straight and narrow path you seek to your salvation. May you find your victim one day too, just like the bullet found its. Yes, sanctify the bullet because soon it’ll light the way for you towards that destiny where you hold the knife in your hands and your hapless victim struggles vainly in your clutches.
While you’re at it, make a game out of it all. Clap, laugh and sing songs while the darkness falls all around you. Tell yourself silly little tales of how it’s all for the best because, after all, politicians are corrupt and deserve it all. Let the madness ooze into your puny minds without a struggle, since struggle in the path of what is right can get you killed.
Kiss the pages of the document where the ‘holy’ laws are written. Don’t read them, don’t think about what they say. Don’t ask questions about them, such as what the rules of evidence are under these laws or how the court is supposed to tell the difference between a true and false allegation. No, don’t do any of that, because soon these will be the only laws left in your life.
Do it, my friends! Because there is no ‘silent majority’ any more, only a frightened and confused flock hemmed in by the darkness, trembling at the howling of the hyenas around, huddled together under a vanishing light, barely enduring the great dark absence beyond.
No words will soothe their fears, no courage will call them to action. No strength exists any longer to lift this cowering multitude into the ranks of humanity, no mind’s eye to light the way for them.
So do it! Celebrate all manner of bloodlust because soon there will be nobody left in your life who can call murder by its name.
Published in The Express Tribune, January 6th, 2011.

 

[great]

people dont know how much corrupt he was....

shame on these ppl, but let them make joke out of nothing

I would have understood if he was killed for corruption but you guys were tolerant of his corruption..but when he stood up for right thing you guys support his killing in the name of religion. Shame on you.

 

[Bang Galore]

Looks like we have another indian pretending to be Pakistani.
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Meengla an Indian? Why? Because he is intelligent & sensible? I must thank you for the highest compliment that you pay to us Indians. Never knew that deep in your heart, you held us in such high esteem. An attempted jibe at Meengla ended up being an unintended complement for your primary hate objects - Indians!

 

[LaBong]

I must say this is not the end. Pakistan has hope and will come back more strongly, as long as there are Pakistanis like Mingla, Asim, T-Faz, Agno, Vcheng, Santro etc.

Keep up good work guys, righteous will prevail.

 

[Bang Galore]

I must say this is not the end. Pakistan has hope and will come back more strongly, as long as there are Pakistanis like Mingla, Asim, T-Faz, Agno, Vcheng, Santro etc.

Keep up good work guys, righteous will prevail.

I must admit to being a lot less optimistic than you are. Have been stunned at some of the responses to the murder of Salman Taseer both in the general public in Pakistan as well as on this forum. I don't know....but I sense a palpable fear among the type mentioned by you (the non loonies). Feel that for the first time, many of them actually doubt whether this fight can be won (my feelings, no proof). Would be delighted to be proved wrong.

 

[Nagraj]

Looks like we have another indian pretending to be Pakistani.

When did you join this forum?

I was here since 2008 and contributed more to this forum than you have. You are just crying about Salman Taseer and repeating your liberal western @$$ kissing views. Who are you trying to impress? Get a life.

this is music to my ears.
it is one of the best compliment given by a pakistani to indian.
on second thought one of the best compliment i have read in this entire forum.
thanks a ton.

 

[AstanoshKhan]

i am not here to impress u nor i want to impress any one... so

You are advocating to the wrong audiences here my dear. I don't know why people can't get over his death, Salman was no better than a third/lower class poor family person who got killed or being killed every other day without any reason/fault resulting in his death? and strangely enough you don't see any support for that poor men.

The miscalculated political risk Salman took and he paid for it. End of story end of Salman taseer. Now get on with your lives...

 

[anathema]

I have been on and off this forum for quite some time due to personal commitments. However just logged in today to see the news as well as the comments from some of the Pakistani posters. Really saddened by this display of evil and stone age attitude.

I would have thought maybe living on western country and western eductation might have instilled some good and noble thoughts in their minds ( not saying that everything that western world does is great -- but they have some great things going for them). Salman T might have been a corrupt man, might have not followed the tennets of islam to the T...but he sure tried to help someone wrongly punished and for this and this alone he should have been appreciated and should have got support...Alas...

At this point all i can say to all my dear and sane Pakistani friends..

Best of Luck Pakistan !!

P.S - posting pics of Salman's family in their private time is downright deplorable and inhummane....you people surely belong to stone age...may you rot in hell......

 

[Nagraj]

P.S - posting pics of Salman's family in their private time is downright deplorable and inhummane....you people surely belong to stone age...may you rot in hell......

Amen.
long live pakistan

 

[kidwaibhai]

I must admit to being a lot less optimistic than you are. Have been stunned at some of the responses to the murder of Salman Taseer both in the general public in Pakistan as well as on this forum. I don't know....but I sense a palpable fear among the type mentioned by you (the non loonies). Feel that for the first time, many of them actually doubt whether this fight can be won (my feelings, no proof). Would be delighted to be proved wrong.

Although your concern for Pakistan is admirable. I don't share you pessimism. remember all JUI(F) leaders on T.V condemned the killing. Not with as much vigor but still they have condemned it. Even the former head of JI Qazi has condemned the killing. In all the tv program i have seen there has been resounding condemnation of the killing. I also see a consensus emerging where the blasphemy law will not be changed but a new law will be introduced that will stop it from being utilized to set personal agendas. Most of the religious parties are also in agreement with this. One more thing that needs to be remembered that PPP workers actually protested the killings and condemned the Mullahs. Also the notion that these guys are going to take over is not plausible because they never win more than a handful of seats in Parliament. I know that there has been a lot of doom and gloom but i think some of it is hyperbole.
A good man was martyred but i dont think his death was in-vane.

 

[Bang Galore]

Also the notion that these guys are going to take over is not plausible because they never win more than a handful of seats in Parliament. I know that there has been a lot of doom and gloom but i think some of it is hyperbole.
A good man was martyred but i dont think his death was in-vane.

It's not about the notion of the Islamic parties taking over but a more generalised lurch of the society itself to the right that should be a matter of concern. The enormous support among the educated classes(or atleast a muted response) for this murderous act is a warning that one ignores at one's own peril. It's not about just the numbers, it's the ability to influence policy by the threat of force that should be a worry. The common reaction among the centrists(both because of lack of will & because of fear) is to try & reach some accommodation with the hardliners in the hope that giving in to some perceived smaller demands now will stave off a larger problem. Unfortunately that plays right into the hands of hardliners because the country is moved to the right because of the compromises effected & sooner or later, fresh demands would be raised. Once having gone down that slippery slope, it becomes difficult to decide when exactly one stops since each time the demand is not by itself suddenly extreme. In a few years the whole society would have accepted a more conservative/extreme position & the liberals would be those at the left of that society & not the society that exists now. The resistance to further demands would simply no longer exist & society in general would just slip slowly into the abyss.

Btw, this phenomenon is not simply unique to Pakistan. While not exactly same, India in the late 1980's & early 1990's was in danger of experiencing a rightward shift in society because of religious polarisation(moving from minority appeasement to soft Hindutva by the congress vs hard hindutva of the BJP vs hardline caste politics of others). While it's difficult to say exactly what would have happened, I believe that the economic liberalisation of the 90's saved India from such a situation. The availability of economic opportunities & a general feeling of well being shifted that threat. The religion of money overtook every other calculation so much so that even the the right wing parties had to give up most of their demands because the society had moved on, leaving them stranded. The complete lack of aggressive public reaction to the recent Ayodhya/Babri Masjid judgment is partly an outcome of such a change.

Pakistan unfortunately does not have such clear cut avenues in front of it. The outcome that would most benefit it, i.e. economic upliftment through peace with India is also the one that is most difficult to sell and as the society in Pakistan moves more sharply to the right will become even more difficult to resolve. A terrible catch 22 position for Pakistan & Pakistanis.

 

[newdelhinsa]

A Larger number of people attending his cremation proves that Liberal voices are still alive. Guys do not be so discouraged. May be his death will make many others brave enough to come out. Lets see, you never know.

PS: I am not talking about the technicality of this particular law (me not an expert) but a nation can not be blackmailed by the barrel of gun. There will be times when Pakistan has to take many difficult decisions. An assassination like this shouldn't change the coarse of law, judiciary and process to improvise something a nation thinks be more appropriate.

 

[NmHqh2JbVo]

The situation is Pakistan is inadvertently "influenced" by so many external factors, Indians, Americans, Chinese, Muslim world as whole, to mention a few. Pakistan might need a little culture revolution (in good sense) to shake off all external factors (just for a second) and truly answer the question with clear mind: who are we Pakistani and what we want for ourselves and our country.

The Chinese changed course after 10 years of extreme practice, then they seem to have changed their course for the better, and shake off the socialism to some extent. (Note, socialism is imported).

Let your mind settle and only then one can see things clear. Turtle made a good point.

The governor and his assassin's mind are both gravely influenced by outside factors maybe, and they forgot the very basics: they are both Pakistani and in dire situations only the two themselves can count on each other. They both wish Pakistan well.

I hope in the future the two competing forces can find common grounds at least on the above principle. Since we don't have Jinah, seems to be a figure nearly all Pakistani trust and respect (his wise command and decisions).

The wise and patriotic forces in Pakistan must not be deterred and take the responsibility and courage and initiative to charter a course for Pakistan for the better for the betters years to come to this country.

This moment is among a few(it any) since the founding of Islamic Republic of Pakistan that no country (including India) is holding her back, but Pakistan herself, which should not be even a "problem" to begin with after all.