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The majority of pictures in this thread are by ISRO, not NASA. We Indians suck at CGI, therefore this is not CGI.

On a more serious note, you've to specify what you mean by CGI. All modern optical cameras are computers and therefore images are computer generated.
Similarly, these images are generated by computers and colour corrected, after collecting X-ray, UV, Radio photons from the source.

If what you mean is that some guy draws this on a computer like movie CGI, nope.

Do the Indians have any non-stop video of rocket launch to space entry (with earth in view)?

All we get are images or a few short timelspsed clips made of still images.
 
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Do the Indians have any non-stop video of rocket launch to space entry (with earth in view)?

All we get are images or a few short timelspsed clips made of still images.
Space agencies don't tend to release unnecessary raw footage in most launches. It'll almost always be the important bits, that is stage separations and spacecraft injection.

It's not that it's some sort of secret.
There's simply no reason to publish the raw footage. If you look at the control room, you can see the on-board cameras showing the recording all the time on the big monitors.

But you're wrong that it's just images and clips made of still images that's released.

Here's ISRO launch of 104 satellites showing booster, stages, payload fairing, satellites separations:

And if you just want take off to orbit continuous, here's a NASA launch:
 
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Space agencies don't tend to release unnecessary raw footage in most launches. It'll almost always be the important bits, that is stage separations and spacecraft injection.

It's not that it's some sort of secret.
There's simply no reason to publish the raw footage. If you look at the control room, you can see the on-board cameras showing the recording all the time on the big monitors.

But you're wrong that it's just images and clips made of still images that's released.

Here's ISRO launch of 104 satellites showing booster, stages, payload fairing, satellites separations:

And if you just want take off to orbit continuous, here's a NASA launch:

Lol,

Bollywood production!
 
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Space agencies don't tend to release unnecessary raw footage in most launches. It'll almost always be the important bits, that is stage separations and spacecraft injection.

It's not that it's some sort of secret.
There's simply no reason to publish the raw footage. If you look at the control room, you can see the on-board cameras showing the recording all the time on the big monitors.

But you're wrong that it's just images and clips made of still images that's released.

Here's ISRO launch of 104 satellites showing booster, stages, payload fairing, satellites separations:

And if you just want take off to orbit continuous, here's a NASA launch:

Unnecessary ... :lol:

As for the video, the main engine of Mars orbitor was turned off at mere 49 nautical miles altitude!! Wow .. didn't know that "space" entry happens at 49 or 50 vertical nautical miles! 8-)

As I said, please show us a video of a rocket travelling from ground to "space".
 
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Everything NASA produces is a CGI. All their pictures of satellites in space are CGI - they even claim it so.

How many nasa rockets have gone up in sky, find me just ONE full recorded video of earth from take off to entry in space. You think I am crazy, you may just be blind. Go find such a video ... not one exists (other than in movies)!

This is a CGI.
you don't even know how telescopes works, the scientists actually not looking through telescope but telescopes/space probe/satt generated a signals and those signal converted into images by the computers, just like you cell phone if you called other part of the world eg (Pakistan) are you living Somalia or Uganda @Verve , those all images are real @Verve :crazy::crazy:
 
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It is pointless discussing with those who believe secondary information to be primary information. Most can't even differentiate between the two!
What its is the secondary informationo_O @ verve . So you don't believe that have been NASA pictures and your cell phone either:p: so all in all you don't believe on science @Verve :what:
 
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What its is the secondary informationo_O @ verve . So you don't believe that have been NASA pictures and your cell phone either:p: so all in all you don't believe on science @Verve :what:

Secondary (source of) information is second hand information, something that you have neither witnessed yourself nor verified.

As for scopes cams etc, these days sensors are used (instead of a film that captures the imprint of the light) and then it is the human programming/coding that transforms the information from the sensor in to an image. Reality is not what a code outputs! In phone cameras, there is no point to code far away dots in to fictional images. Take a picture of Mars/pluto/nebulas etc etc through a powerful conventional scope scope using an iphone or any standard cam and you will see what you see with your eye (probably less).

So you believe NASA sent men to the moon? Heck, their own scientist has said that they do not have the technology for humans to go through the Van Allen belts so how did they manage it back then. A few slips of the tongue - maybe they were telling the truth or a lie - you know for a definite, right?

Believe in what you are told and shown blindly (because scientists say so) - that is your choice.

Useless lal batti of space science that has given humanity jack shit - but followers abound
 
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Secondary (source of) information is second hand information, something that you have neither witnessed yourself nor verified.

As for scopes cams etc, these days sensors are used (instead of a film that captures the imprint of the light) and then it is the human programming/coding that transforms the information from the sensor in to an image. Reality is not what a code outputs! In phone cameras, there is no point to code far away dots in to fictional images. Take a picture of Mars/pluto/nebulas etc etc through a powerful conventional scope scope and you will see what you see with your eye.

So you believe NASA sent men to the moon? Heck, their own scientist has said that they do not have the technology for humans to go through the Van Allen belts so how did they manage it back then. A few slips of the tongue - maybe they were telling the truth or a lie - you know for a definite, right?

Believe in what you are told and shown blindly (because scientists say so) - that is your choice.

Useless lal batti of space science that has given humanity jack shit - but followers abound
:lol::lol::lol: that was from beginning that we were not going through Van Allen belts and what about ISS its above Van Allen belts you're talking about before moon landings which are real i have the picture from my telescope that shows lunar module of Apollo 11, and Apollo -15 is still on the moon, you beleive conspiracy theories its good for you @Verve :lol::enjoy: , as for visual wavelength they are not able research what is minerals on different terrestrial planet that why they uses other than optical wavelengths to discover different properties of a different planets/galaxies/stars, like IR, UV, X-rays and others properties but those pictures are real from sensors @Verve
 
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:lol::lol::lol: that was from beginning that we were not going through Van Allen belts and what about ISS its above Van Allen belts you're talking about before moon landings which are real i have the picture from my telescope that shows lunar module of Apollo 11, and Apollo -15 is still on the moon, you beleive conspiracy theories its good for you @Verve :lol::enjoy: , as for visual wavelength they are not able research what is minerals on different terrestrial planet that why they uses other than optical wavelengths to discover different properties of a different planets/galaxies/stars, like IR, UV, X-rays and others properties but those pictures are real from sensors @Verve

You can't have a logical argument.

Also Post the pictures you took instead of just talk.

Provide
1. full specs of your telescope
2. The image capture device specs
3. Exact date and time images captured
4. Raw images and edited images

If I have time and resources I will likely verify your claim instead of blindly believing you.

Right now this claim of yours is just words.

you beleive conspiracy theories its good for you

I believe what I can verify based on both primary and secondary evidences. Rest is just opinion.

Whereas likes of you believe in secondary information but that's your choice.

Why do I need to believe NASA and other space agencies when they are self-contradicting and useless to humanity?

Btw, that van allen belt comment by NASA wasn't made in 60's, it was within last few years. Even the scientists onboard 'ISS' have said that they are researching and testing tech so that humans can go as far as moon and beyond :lol:
 
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You can't have a logical argument.

Also Post the pictures you took instead of just talk.

Provide
1. full specs of your telescope
2. The image capture device specs
3. Exact date and time images captured
4. Raw images and edited images

If I have time and resources I will likely verify your claim instead of blindly believing you.

Right now this claim of yours is just words.
i give you an example you beleive your own conspiracy theories its good for your health @Verve :lol::enjoy: first man in space gagrin was well above the van allen belts in 59 so did second man in space in early 60 so you don't beleive manned vostok/ space shuttle/mir/iss flights @Verve :help: you haven't brain in your head @Verve :crazy: and you're talking about logic @Verve :lol::rofl: you're jester @Verve :jester:

Why do I need to believe NASA and other space agencies when they are self-contradicting and useless to humanity?

Btw, that van allen belt comment by NASA wasn't made in 60's, it was within last few years. Even the scientists onboard 'ISS' have said that they are researching and testing tech so that humans can go as far as moon and beyo
show those reports @Verve :hitwall: in Qura'an the almighty Allah said that the universe is build for human to do research on mysteries of the universe @Verve if you do beleive in Qura'an and Allah @Verve :blah::blah::blah:
 
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Pictures released by NASA are CGI and altered before release to the Public. The very fact that the US has not gone back to the moon for decades is a clear proof of NASA's falseness. And the fact that NASA thinks that everyone on this planet is a boof head, and can feed whatever nonsense it can to every idiot living on this planet.
 
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From the archives. A look into AstroSat and its detection of Crab Nebula in 2015.

Astrosat First Light: CZT Imager Looks at Crab Nebula
Astrosat, India's first Multi-wavelength Space Observatory was successfully launched by ISRO's workhorse launch vehicle PSLV into a 650km orbit on September 28, 2015. Then began the process of putting each of the payloads into operation.The Charged Particle Monitor (CPM) was the first payload to go operational followed by the Cadmium Zinc Telluride Imager (CZTI), the hard X-ray detector on board Astrosat. CZTI was made fully operational on October 5, 2015. Then, on October 6, Astrosat was oriented towards Crab Nebula, remnant of the Supernova detected by Chinese astronomers in the year 1054. The Crab Nebula, which also includes the Crab Pulsar, is the brightest hard X-ray source in the sky, and is very often used to calibrate hard X-ray detectors.

CZTI Detectors

CZTI consists of four quadrants of 16 pixelated detectors each, achieving a total geometric area of 976 cm2. It is sensitive to X-rays above 10 keV energy. For every photon it detects, CZTI sends an event report consisting of position (pixel number, each pixel – 2.5mm X 2.5mm), time of detection (correct to 20 micro-seconds) and energy of the incident photon.

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The top of the CZTI is covered by a Coded Aperture Mask – a Tantalum plate with carefully placed holes – which casts a shadow on the detector when illuminated by a source. Imaging is performed by interpreting the pattern of the recorded shadow. The mask blocks nearly half the incident X-rays, so the effective area of the CZTI is about 490 cm2.

The expected background rate is about 250 counts per second per quadrant; however, the observed counts exceeded it by a factor of four. This was understood to be due to multiple events recorded during Cosmic Ray interaction. A movie made out of images taken every 100 micro-second (http://astrosat.iucaa.in/czti/images/CZTI_Crab_5s.mpg) shows the fascinating kaleidoscopic picture of high energy interactions in space: looked at the fast rate of 100 micro-seconds, there won’t be any events 98% of the time (these blank images are skipped while making the movie), some are single events representing genuine X-rays, some are double events in neighbouring pixels due to Compton scattering and many are multiple particle induced events. This is the first time ever that a hard X-ray instrument acting as a particle tracker is sent to space. One of the tracks is shown in Figure 2, and it possibly represents a charge particle interaction.

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Figure 2: A snapshot of the locations of `events’ detected by one quadrant of CZT-Imager in a 100 micro-sec window. Each dot represents charges deposited in a 2.5 mm X 2.5 mm pixel of the detector. Vertical lines separate detector modules of size 4 cm X 4 cm (16 X 16 pixels). This particular track is most likely the result of charge particle interaction.

Quick analysis software, based on the idea that genuine X-ray events would be isolated single events, was made operational to prune the data and detect the actual X-rays coming from Crab Nebula.

A First look at Crab Nebula

The ground support software had been reviewed at multiple levels and was ready to tackle the data immediately after the first orbit of the satellite during the Crab observations. Unfortunately, these software were tested using the benign ground data, and were ill equipped to handle the voluminous on board data. Hence, the first attempt was to just look at the Crab data in the first orbit without going into finer nuances like satellite location etc.

A quick look at the first orbit image showed that Crab Nebula was not detected.

Well, Crab is the brightest hard X-ray source, visible even to a small hard X-ray detector.

Most likely, the data pruning was erroneous. The total X-ray counts as a function of time was looked into: they should be stable at the Astrosat orbit and must show a decrease whenever Crab goes behind the Earth, i.e. when the so called Earth occultation occurs. Count rates were steady, but there was no sign of decrease or increase in count rates throughout the orbit.

A tense session of self introspection followed. Questions followed one after the other to explain the strange behaviour.

Did the characteristics of the X-ray detectors change after launch ? However, the data contradicted the possibility. The multiple tracks show that they are genuine events and a careful look at the spectrum showed the characteristic X-ray lines emitted by the protective Tantalum cover at exactly the expected energy.

Did the Mission Operation team make any error in orienting the satellite ? Well, CZT-Imager has a wide field of view and it is too embarrassing to even pose the question whether they made such a large mistake in pointing.

Being Science, and not magic, an explanation would be there for this behaviour and the only way to reach at it was by systematically analysing the data at hand.

Crab Nebula was Captured

Crab Nebula was detected on Oct 9, 2015, observed parallely by both Mission Operation Centre at Peenya, Bengaluru and Payload Operation Centre, IUCAA, Pune.
During the first orbit, there was a difficulty in detecting this Crab Nebula as the satellite happened to pass through the South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA) region when Crab was in the field of view. SAA avoidance zone was deliberately kept wide to protect the instruments, and detectors were switched OFF in this interval during the initial days of Astrosat operation. When all the data were systematically analysed and data were selected based on the availability of Crab in the detector field of view, one could see the Crab emerging from Earth's shadow (Fig 3). The image generated by deconvolving the coded mask shadows accumulated during this interval clearly shows Crab as a bright object near the centre (Fig 4).

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Figure 3: X-ray counts from each detector module of one quadrant of CZTI are plotted as a function of time. The counts (about 9 counts per detector or about 150 counts per quadrant) when the Earth was blocking Crab almost doubled when Crab emerged from the Earth shadow. The unfiltered raw count rate was about 1300 per second per quadrant.

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Figure4: Image of Crab Nebula in hard X-rays above 25 keV. The bright spot near the centre indicates Crab. The effective imaging resolution here is about 10 arcmin. The faint patches outside are `side-lobes’ of the imaging process and they will be suppressed significantly when data from all quadrants are analysed simultaneously, which will also improve the image resolution to better than 8 arcmin.

Further Work

In the first week of CZTI operation, Crab Nebula was stared at continuously and was also viewed at different angles to firm up the imaging ability of the instrument. The Crab Nebula was also made to bombard the instrument at several large off-axis angles so that CZTI characteristics as a hard X-ray wide angle monitor can be quantified.

The black hole source Cygnus X-1 was also observed for two days. In the initial operation, the low energy threshold of CZTI was kept at 20 keV (to be brought down carefully to the design goal of 10 keV in due course) and to provide simultaneous low energy data, the Swift satellite of NASA made the following observations:

Crab: Oct 6 21:51:00 to 22:12:00 UT

Cyg X-1: Oct 7 14:55:00 to 15:15:00 UT

One of the fascinating science objectives is to understand the accretion disk geometry in a black hole sources like Cygnus X-1. The NuSTAR satellite of NASA is operating for the last 3 years and it has the best spectroscopic sensitivity in the 10 – 80 keV region. A simultaneous observation has been made with NuSTAR (Oct 7 15:40:08 UT to Oct 8 02:25:00 UT) to observe the time dependent spectral characteristics: it will help us in understanding the instrument systematics in the 10 – 80 keV region; CZTI will provide best spectroscopic data in 70 keV – 300 keV region (by utilising Compton scattered double events) and a joint analysis with NuSTAR will provide unprecedented wide band spectroscopic data on this source.

CZTI has polarisation sensitivity in the 100 – 300 keV region and the best hard X-ray polarisation measurement of Crab till date has been provided by the Integral satellite of ESA. Integral is observing Crab simultaneously with CZTI and hopefully, we will have a refined polarisation measurement of Crab, as a function of its rotation period.

What Next?

In the next few weeks, other X-ray instruments of Astrosat would be made operational and in about a month, all X-ray instruments (CZTI, LAXPC and SXT) will be ready to stare at interesting stars. Astrosat would be looking at some of the black hole sources / candidates like GRS 1915+105, Cygnus X-1, Cygnus X-3 during the month of November. Simultaneous observations are also planned using an Infra-red telescope at Mt Abu, radio observations at GMRT, Khodad (near Pune) and using the Himalayan Chandra Telescope, located at Hanle, Ladakh, for science analysis of CZTI.

This is only the beginning, with many more events to unfold…

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CZT-Imager is built by a consortium of Institutes across India: Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Mumbai, led the effort with instrument design and development; Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre, Thiruvananthapuram provided the electronic design, assembly and testing; ISRO Satellite Centre (ISAC), Bengaluru provided the mechanical design, quality consultation and project management; Inter University Centre for Astronomy and Astrophysics (IUCAA), Pune did the Coded Mask design, instrument calibration, and hosts the Payload Operation for CZTI; Space Application Centre (SAC) at Ahmedabad provided the analysis software; Physical Research Laboratory (PRL) Ahmedabad, provided the polarisation detection algorithm and ground calibration; a vast number of industries participated in the fabrication and the University sector pitched in by participating in the test and evaluation of the payload.
 
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i give you an example you beleive your own conspiracy theories its good for your health @Verve :lol::enjoy: first man in space gagrin was well above the van allen belts in 59 so did second man in space in early 60 so you don't beleive manned vostok/ space shuttle/mir/iss flights @Verve :help: you haven't brain in your head @Verve :crazy: and you're talking about logic @Verve :lol::rofl: you're jester @Verve :jester:

You made a claim and effectively debunked yourself with a totally irrelevant reply.

Supposedly moon is 384,400 Kms away and has a diameter of 3474 Kms.

And you claim to have a scope that can give you a visual confirmation (without any doubts whatsoever) of a medium van size machine left on the moon!!!

And you have images too!!

All this whilst moon is moving at a supposed speed of 3683 km/h!!

Add to this that you are stationed (with the supposed scope + equipment) on an earth that's supposedly rotating at 1600km/h!!!

That's a one heck of a claim you made!!

Yet you have nothing to back up that claim other than the words typed to make that claim, and resorting to name calling .. o_O

Try not to lie, just to appease your ego!

show those reports @Verve :hitwall: in Qura'an the almighty Allah said that the universe is build for human to do research on mysteries of the universe @Verve if you do beleive in Qura'an and Allah @Verve :blah::blah::blah:

Here we go!

Don't bring Quran in this. You will not find one ayat on the earth being in orbit (of anything) whereas you will many on sun and moon being in orbit.
 
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Here we go!

Don't bring Quran in this. You will not find one ayat on the earth being in orbit (of anything) whereas you will many on sun and moon being in orbit.
im replying to your phrase Astronomy is useless to humanity @Verve and i am not talking wehether its that earth revolving around the sun or not, this is not a topic @Verve :hitwall::hitwall::crazy::crazy: but in Qura'an Allah also want to promotes in the Qura'an that human will do research/investigate of mysteries of the universe and that all i want to say @Verve :hitwall::hitwall::crazy:
 
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