Largest hydropower dam in Turkey powers up first turbine

[KingWest]

While I agree with all of these, remember that it can cause huge political clusterfucks as well
https://insamer.com/tr/ortadogu-su-krizi-ve-turkiye_697.html

For example, take a look at this recent crisis:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/nile-river-of-discord-between-egypt-and-ethiopia/1845930

Maybe the international pressure won't be as high as building a nuclear power plant, but it can still cause major problems...

True, but this stage has passed for us. Iraq and Syria will not be in a position to change the status quo regarding these dams of ours anymore. The time to complain has passed for these nations. And now we have them by their balls.

I would like to have solar power in cities specially in big cities in larger scale because it could help to change a little bit the climate (reflecting the sun light)

I agree with everything you wrote except for the quoted part. Solar panels dont reflect sunlight. Its the exact contrary. The black panels take up the sun light. They dont reflect it at all.

 

[Timur]

True, but this stage has passed for us. Iraq and Syria will not be in a position to change the status quo regarding these dams of ours anymore. The time to complain has passed for these nations. And now we have them by their balls.


I agree with everything you wrote except for the quoted part. Solar panels dont reflect sunlight. Its the exact contrary. The black panels take up the sun light. They dont reflect it at all.

I just thought they reflect more light than just stones/beton in urban areas it could help to create energy and reflect some more sunlight.. if I am wrong than still its a good idea to integrate them there for energy production.. together with this here:

 

[Saithan]

Windmills don’t stand still unless there is a hurricane or need maintenance etc.

I read an article yesterday that with newer windmill technologys reaching 5-6 mw Turkeys energy potential grows to around 120000 MWfrom aprox 48000 MW Wish I had posted it yesterday. I cant find it now.

Storing energy is still an issue, but with smart grid you can export it and if you have a 1 to 1 deal you can import same amount of energy at other times.

 

[Deliorman]

I read an article about Ilisu Dam where they interviewed some local people (probably PKK supporters) and they complained that this dam will make water level rise so much that it will fill all the cave systems around with water.
It’s not that they were concerned about the bats and other creatures living there but more about the Dam destroying their PKK hideouts. So here is another plus of the project for me.

 

[Saithan]

Solar panel the most commonly used atm utilizes around 22-27% of the sunlight that hits the surface. But with newer technology this can come up to 47% or so.

Shows how important it is to have every segment of our society work together to succeed.

 

[RealNapster]

Hydro power is one of the worst "green" energy solutions. It fucks up the natural structure of the region irreversibly and also has a set timeframe to operate on in which after it becomes obselete.
Nuclear is clearly the best, but with so much misinformation about the technology it's a very hard sell to the public and an immense jumping point to any opposition parties in given country.
So that leaves wind and solar. While solar is more promising, because of the materials needed to produce the panels, it's not nearly as clean as wind.
So all in all I would've preferred heavy investment in wind farms instead of these huge dams.
Oh well, in the short to mid term these will actually help us out, so it's not all bad.

Hydro power maybe bad in a sense you explained but, dams are multi purpose structures. Major benefit of dams is storage of water. Countries need water storages of 100+ days in such times when due to global warming you dont know when it will rain and IF it will rain this time? Precipitations intensity reduced many folds. Dams are a must. So why not also put turbines on it?

 

[MMM-E]

Hydroelectric Plants contribute $33.3 billion to Turkish economy in 18 years

Turkey’s 587 hydroelectric power plants all of which came into service in the last 18 years under the AK Party Governments have generated 895 billion kWh of electricity, contributing nearly TL 233 billion ($33.3 billion) to the country’s economy

https://www.dailysabah.com/business...te-333-billion-to-turkish-economy-in-18-years

 

[-SINAN-]

I think it’s time for Turkey to create a “Green Party”.

They are even against wind energy saying, it's making noise pollution and some thing with migratory birds.

 

[Saithan]

https://www.dailysabah.com/business...power-produced-from-local-renewable-resources

https://www.worlddata.info/asia/turkey/energy-consumption.php
(This site places Turkey in Asia).

https://www.electricitymap.org/zone/TR

We seem to produce more than 100% electricity needed, but our total energy consumption is still reliant on import.

 

[CrazyZ]

the best thing is using solar wind and hydropower in combination...
I would like to have solar power in cities specially in big cities in larger scale because it could help to change a little bit the climate (reflecting the sun light)

100% agree. Hydro is great to couple with solar. Both Turkey and Pakistan have great potential in this. Solar needs energy storage to be effective on a large scale. Pumped Hydro storage is as efficient as chemical batteries but far cheaper and can last over 100 years (batteries will last 10-20 years max). The desert south west of the USA is planning large amounts of pumped hydro energy storage plants in the future, no doubt to couple with solar power. You can't get greener than California.

 

[Saithan]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity

Turkey isn't on the list which makes me wonder whether it was narrowminded people who were sitting at the the table making the decisions.

 

[Armchair]

Thats an insane number of dams. now i see why they are now calling Turkey as a newly industrialized nation

 

[xenon54 out]

Thats an insane number of dams. now i see why they are now calling Turkey as a newly industrialized nation

Its part of the long ter GAP project, which was planned in the 70s already, is aimed to industrialize the border regions to Syria and Iraq.
635 large dams are operational and about as many are planned in the future.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Anatolia_Project