Lahore is a city made better by the indomitable spirit of Pakhtuns

[Finer]

you are suffering from Panama hangover so NVM.
your reply to Baban and me has too many flaws and i don't have energy to write long replies on cell keyboard at this time of the night besides i can feel your sorrows .

This thread is about why Lahore is a city made better by the indomitable spirit of Pakhtuns. Naturally because Lahore being part of Pakistan encourages multiculturalism unlike Pakhtun-dominated Afghanistan.

What is so hard to understand? And i believe you don't want to deal with the ground reality on Afghanistan being majority Pashtuns dominated land that has history of mistreatment towards minority for years, even decades.

As for unrelated note, i congratulated people for the good news on Panama hangover. It is good news for Pakistan overall. And i maintained the stability stance in the past and still do provided the democracy stays on uninterrupted - even if it means the resignation of Nawaz Sharif then so be it. The stability of democracy comes first as i live in democracy where democracy is the reason multiculturalism thrives so naturally i am bound to be pro-democracy.

 

[Well.wisher]

You should invite Punjabis to your Jafarabad so that it becomes "liberal" and "chill"

Of course . They're welcome.
But right now it should be quetta .
In fed up with the tribalism here

 

[Mian Babban]

Of course . They're welcome.
But right now it should be quetta .
In fed up with the tribalism here

And you are not fed up with tribalism in Jafarabad? leave the Quetta city be, focus on your Jafarabad ....apparently to turn an area into "liberal" and "chill" , you need to colonize it with Punjabis, so says Well.wisher the kid

Wrong, Hazaras sought refuge in Pakistan. In Pakistan, this kind of discrimination is not tolerated.

Why else Hazaras would escape from Pashtuns dominated land aka Afghanistan to another Pashtuns dominated regions in Pakistan if Pakistan as multiculturalism nation is not factor?

They sought refuge in British India, Pakistan did not exist back then. And they fled from Amir Abdur Rahman, not from Pashtuns. They had supported the rebel brother of Amir on signals from Persia and consequently rebelled. Afterwards they faced the repercussions of their actions. They were few thousands though. Bulk of the Hazaras of Quetta are actually refugees of Afghan war of 80s.

Pakistani Pashtuns are in non-Pashtuns dominated land so naturally they are bound to be humble.

If by humble you mean subjugated, then i am not humble ( i will only speak for myself here , because some "Pathans" here might actually agree with you). It seems to me you have grown up outside Pakistan and you dont know much about the land and people of the country you are claiming to be from. Or you might be just a Pakistani nationalist bigot

 

[defence_analyst]

I want more punjabis in quetta , with them the environment becomes liberal and chill ..

Soon enough more punjabis will migrate to Quetta.

 

[Finer]

They sought refuge in British India, Pakistan did not exist back then. And they fled from Amir Abdur Rahman, not from Pashtuns. They had supported the rebel brother of Amir on signals from Persia and consequently rebelled. Afterwards they faced the repercussions of their actions. They were few thousands though. Bulk of the Hazaras of Quetta are actually refugees of Afghan war of 80s.

Minority including Hazaras escaped minority intolerance in form of tribal wars that accounted for racial cleansing on the massive level on more than decades.

If it wasn't for Afghan war, those Hazaras would have been extinct by now in the name of racial cleansing war simply because they are not Pakhtuns.

You cannot make excuse due to the history since it is matter of racial cleansing war which goes against the fundamental aspects of humanity. Ancient Pakhtuns have been known for barbarism, mindset for stone old age, minority intolerance, and even now, Pakhtuns dominated Afghanistan has the same story concerning the matter of minority intolerance which to this day still exists.

If it wasn't for Pakistan, never mind the hazaras becoming extinct - those Pakhtuns that migrated to Pakistan would be stuck on stone old age and Indian Muslims from India that migrated to Pakistan would have faced massive genocide taking Gujarat into the account.

Credit to Pakistan and its ideology founded on multiculturalism which conforms with Islam in principles as well, you and i are having debate right now. Because my family is also from Azad Kashmir. Thanks to Pakistan and its fourth-largest army, here we are having debate.

If by humble you mean subjugated, then i am not humble ( i will only speak for myself here , because some "Pathans" here might actually agree with you). It seems to me you have grown up outside Pakistan and you dont know much about the land and people of the country you are claiming to be from. Or you might be just a Pakistani nationalist bigot

Well, i am just pointing the irony given how welcoming Pakhtuns can be to the minority in their own lands.

 

[Incog_nito]

Why would we. Pashtun communities have existed in the city for centuries. Right at the center of androon shehr (old walled city of Lahore) is a mohalla called mohalla kakezain (named after the large population of kakazais in that area, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakazai). They are in many ways part and parcel of the city even if Lahore is far away from Pashtun dominated areas.

I am sorry for that

 

[Khanate]

This thread is about why Lahore is a city made better by the indomitable spirit of Pakhtuns. Naturally because Lahore being part of Pakistan encourages multiculturalism unlike Pakhtun-dominated Afghanistan.

What is so hard to understand? And i believe you don't want to deal with the ground reality on Afghanistan being majority Pashtuns dominated land that has history of mistreatment towards minority for years, even decades.

As for unrelated note, i congratulated people for the good news on Panama hangover. It is good news for Pakistan overall. And i maintained the stability stance in the past and still do provided the democracy stays on uninterrupted - even if it means the resignation of Nawaz Sharif then so be it. The stability of democracy comes first as i live in democracy where democracy is the reason multiculturalism thrives so naturally i am bound to be pro-democracy.

Pakistani Pashtuns should not be conflated with Afghans. Pakistani Pashtuns are more educated and they contribute towards Pakistan's success whether it is in Lahore, Karachi, Quetta or Peshawar while Afghans have a bad reputation (Source) around the globe (Source), not just in Pakistan. Personally, I wish Pakistan was making more of an effort towards the peaceful return of Afghan refugees to Afghanistan. In the Post APS Pakistan, we have to put aside ethnocentrism and view our safety needs collectively. However, this isn't the topic of discussion.

 

[Well.wisher]

And you are not fed up with tribalism in Jafarabad? leave the Quetta city be, focus on your Jafarabad ....apparently to turn an area into "liberal" and "chill" , you need to colonize it with Punjabis, so says Well.wisher the kid


They sought refuge in British India, Pakistan did not exist back then. And they fled from Amir Abdur Rahman, not from Pashtuns. They had supported the rebel brother of Amir on signals from Persia and consequently rebelled. Afterwards they faced the repercussions of their actions. They were few thousands though. Bulk of the Hazaras of Quetta are actually refugees of Afghan war of 80s.


If by humble you mean subjugated, then i am not humble ( i will only speak for myself here , because some "Pathans" here might actually agree with you). It seems to me you have grown up outside Pakistan and you dont know much about the land and people of the country you are claiming to be from. Or you might be just a Pakistani nationalist bigot

You've an outdated thinking ..

 

[Mian Babban]

You've an outdated thinking ..

And you are very "chill" and "liberal"?, girl what exactly are you smoking nowadays?......if you feel outsider in the small city of Quetta and the men in shalwar kameez irks you then move to 'liberal' and 'chill' city like New York , London, Paris etc and or to desi version of liberal city like Islamabad.

Minority including Hazaras escaped minority intolerance in form of tribal wars that accounted for racial cleansing on the massive level on more than decades.

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They did not, dont spread misinformation

 

[Well.wisher]

And you are very "chill" and "liberal"?, girl what exactly are you smoking nowadays?......if you feel outsider in the small city of Quetta and the men in shalwar kameez irks you then move to 'liberal' and 'chill' city like New York , London, Paris etc and or to desi version of liberal city like Islamabad.


They did not, dont spread misinformation

Oh shut the hell up ..
Quetta is my city ., who are you to tell me.
You're just an Afghan , just stick to your land ... you're an outsider not me .

These afghans and tribal balochi sardars had fuked up the city , has turned it into a trash can and a boiling gutter . They don't deserve to be tolerated anymore here or else learn how to live as civilised human being .

Learn how to live as a clean citizen and don't mess up the city otherwise get out ..

Ever saw how the pakistan army has managed their area ? Wanna see .. its an another organised islamabad with every thing mannered and disciplined .
Shalwar kameez is not a problem but when you don't clean your clothes and wear dirty clothes all over the month and eat naswar and then spit here and there ., then you really r a problem .. you should be kicked out .

 

[Mian Babban]

when you don't clean your clothes and wear dirty clothes all over the month and eat naswar and then spit here and there ., then you really r a problem .. you should be kicked out .

Why dont you move back to your Jafarabad where there are no Pashtuns with naswars stuffed in their mouths?......its you who feels outsider and alien in small city like Quetta. Simply move to another city which is modern and liberal in your eyes.

 

[Well.wisher]

Why dont you move back to your Jafarabad where there are no Pashtuns with naswars stuffed in their mouths?......its you who feels outsider and alien in small city like Quetta. Simply move to another city which is modern and liberal in your eyes.

Well.. who are you .. first of all .

An Afghan telling me to leave quetta .. The irony !

Your right over quetta is like a German having right over American lands .

no , I never will leave quetta . Pashtun is not a problem , they're cleaner and educated than the outsuder 'refugees' here .

You're just a bored kid who has nothing to do with his wasted time so let satan play with your little stupid mind. BS

 

[Mian Babban]

Well.. who are you .. first of all .

An Afghan telling me to leave quetta .. The irony !

Your right over quetta is like a German having right over American lands .

no , I never will leave quetta . Pashtun is not a problem , they're cleaner and educated than the outsuder 'refugees' here .

You're just a bored kid who has nothing to do with his wasted time so let satan play with your little stupid mind. BS

Tell us what do you mean by "liberal" and "chill"?....... bhangrra and Dhai balay?

 

[Well.wisher]

Tell us what do you mean by "liberal" and "chill"?....... bhangrra and Dhai balay?

I meant freedom .. freedom to every individual how they want to live their life .
Every person has the responsibility of his own, no other has to command what he should do with his life .

 

[Mian Babban]

I meant freedom .. freedom to every individual how they want to live their life .
Every person has the responsibility of his own, no other has to command what he should do with his life .

And you are under the impression that Punjab offers the freedom to individuals how they want to live their life?..... Qandeel Baloch from Punjab wanted to live her life in her own way, do you what happened to her?....or Qadianis want to live life in their own manner, do you know what happens to them in Punjab?