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Basically Afghanistan is still under foregin occuptaion, Afghans are slaves, their government, NDS are all slaves....and these in power...have extreme jealousy and inferior mindedness to blame Pakistan. Afghan govt broken down negotiations with Afghan Taliban, via help from Pakistan, they disclosed Mullah Umar death at a wrong time.....and these are the consequences Afghans will face....Unfortunate and distressing these Afghans are.
 
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Afghan Crisis Grows as Push to Retake Kunduz from Taliban Fails

KABUL, Afghanistan — Afghanistan was plunged deeper into crisis a day after the Taliban seized the northern city of Kunduz, as the insurgents on Tuesday kept assaulting the reeling Afghan security forces and the government struggled to mount a credible response.

Not only did a promised government counteroffensive on Kunduz not make headway during heavy fighting on Tuesday, but the day ended with yet another aggressive Taliban advance, with insurgents surrounding the airport to which hundreds of Afghan forces and at least as many civilians had retreated, thinking it would be safe.

After more than a day of relative silence as the situation worsened around Kunduz, the American military showed the first signs of increased involvement in what the Pentagon called “a setback,” conducting at least two airstrikes, and reportedly more as attacks continued at the airport late Tuesday.

Beyond the Taliban’s gains in Kunduz, there was evidence that the insurgents were also pushing a broader offensive in northern Afghanistan, officials said. One particular point of concern was Takhar Province, just east of Kunduz, where the insurgents were said to be heavily assaulting military checkpoints and government facilities in several districts over the past two days.

Questions about how thousands of army, police and militia defenders could continue to fare so poorly against a Taliban force that most local and military officials put in the hundreds hung over President Ashraf Ghani’s government and its American allies.

In the hours after Kunduz’s fall, Afghan officials said an overwhelming Afghan Army force was on its way to retake the city. But by the end of the day on Tuesday, only a few hundred had materialized at the airport — a small fraction of the number who had fled the city the day before. Many more traveling by road were said to have been slowed by ambushes and roadside bombs, in another sign of growing Taliban control in Kunduz Province and nearby areas.

As the situation worsened on Tuesday, the Pentagon press secretary, Peter Cook, said in a news conference of the Kunduz fighting, “Obviously, this is a setback.” In addition to the airstrikes, he said, a number of coalition forces were with Afghan forces as advisers.

In a later statement, Mr. Cook said the Afghan military had “amassed a sizable force to retake city, numbering in the thousands.” He continued, “We are confident they will defeat the Taliban and restore the city to Afghan control.”

In Kunduz, the city’s limited medical facilities were overwhelmed with the flow of wounded, although the number of dead from the two days of fighting remained unclear. The main trauma center, run by Doctors Without Borders, had received 171 wounded, including 46 children, many of them in critical condition with gunshot wounds.

“We have 130 patients spread throughout the wards, in the corridors and even in offices,” said Guilhem Molinie, the representative in Afghanistan for the doctors’ group. “With the hospital reaching its limit and fighting continuing, we are worried about being able to cope with any new influx of wounded.”

The Taliban continued to consolidate their hold on the provincial capital, an important northern hub that has been the site of many bitter battles in the past two generations and that was the last major Taliban-held city to fall to the American-backed Northern Alliance offensive in 2001.

By the end of Monday, the insurgents had already set up checkpoints throughout the city, and they had issued edicts against looting. During the day on Tuesday, Taliban fighters roamed the city freely with chants blaring from their vehicles’ loudspeakers, according to residents reached by telephone. One man accused of being a thief, his mouth covered with material that bore illegible writing, was marched by Taliban fighters to the main city square, a resident said. He was forced to repent, and was freed after elders intervened and the man promised not to steal again.

In a victory statement, the Taliban leader, Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansour, promised that his forces would not commit the sort of atrocities for which the Taliban are known. “The citizens of Kunduz city should be aware that the Islamic Emirate has no intention of transgressing against their personal property, carrying out extrajudicial killings, looting or breaching the inviolability of homes,” he said in the statement.

But the looting of institutions and businesses continued, including of the United Nations regional branch, the Afghan intelligence agency’s provincial office, two radio stations and a number of car dealerships. Even broken-down cars were being towed out of dealerships, residents said. A vault at the central bank’s Kunduz branch was blown up early Tuesday, residents said.

“The Taliban are strolling around freely like this is their home,” said Ghulam Rabbani Rabbani, a member of the Kunduz provincial council, who like many Kunduz officials had retreated to the airport but was in touch with residents. “They took a lot of weapons from the intelligence agency’s office, weapons that were stocked for arming pro-government militias. We fear that there was cash and vehicles also.”

In a televised news conference, Mr. Ghani sought to assure the Afghan public that his forces would win back Kunduz, which was a city of about 300,000 people before it began emptying out during the recent months of Taliban encirclement.

Despite reports that a rout was continuing around Kunduz, the president insisted that it was more a matter of restraint by his security forces than of failure.

“The problem is that the treacherous enemy is using civilians as human shield,” Mr. Ghani said during his news conference, accompanied by his war cabinet. “The government of Afghanistan is an accountable government and cannot bombard inside the cities, and it will not.”

Some residents still in Kunduz described being terrified at what was to come — either from Taliban rule or from the urban warfare that was likely to intensify.

“There is a state of dread and distress in the city, although the Taliban has come to the mosques and the streets to call on people and tell them that they are safe,” Rahmatullah, a prominent Kunduz teacher who goes by just one name, said in a telephone interview.

By 10 p.m. on Tuesday, residents said American or Afghan aircraft could be heard overhead, although there were conflicting reports about whether they were dropping ordnance on Taliban positions outside the airport. Military officials said the Taliban could be heard on their military radios shouting “B-52s!” — long the Taliban cry to take cover from American air power.

The Kunduz police spokesman, Sayed Sarwar Hussaini, said some American Special Forces soldiers had arrived at the airport Tuesday evening — although whether they were there to call in airstrikes or to otherwise join Afghan commandos in an attack on the city was not clear.

Government officials, including Mr. Hussaini, also claimed that the Taliban’s governor for Kunduz, Mullah Abdul Salam, had been killed in fighting near the airport late Tuesday. There were no details or other confirmation of the reports, however.

Jawad Sukhanyar contributed reporting from Kabul, and Helene Cooper from Washington.
 
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According to NDS sources,

- The Tali commander Mawli Salaam which was the mastermind behind the Tali assault was taken out in a NDS lead airstrike.

- Talis are on the run, the ANSF have blocked all major routes egress from the Kunduz city

- Heavy casualties on the Talis side, their dead are littered in the Kunduz streets


.... More soon

Update 1/2

- Mullah Zabi who was the deputy of Mullah Salaam the so called mastermind of the Tali operations was sent back to the pavilion :P

Good job. Any update buddy ?
 
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Taliban reinforcement arrive in Kunduz from neighboring area of Kunduz and Baghlan province... Taliban Sources.. dont know propaganda or True..

also they are claiming that they have destroyed 8 Tanks and cars in an ambush on moving ANA Convoy in Baghlan... very dangerous for region

قندوز اپڈیٹ:

کندز کے گورنر محترم ملا عبدالسلام اخند کی شہادت کی خبریں بے بنیاد ہیں، ذبیح اللہ مجاہد 0093785624953

Why they are quoting contact numbers :D
 
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According to NDS sources,

- The Tali commander Mawli Salaam which was the mastermind behind the Tali assault was taken out in a NDS lead airstrike.

- Talis are on the run, the ANSF have blocked all major routes egress from the Kunduz city

- Heavy casualties on the Talis side, their dead are littered in the Kunduz streets


.... More soon

Update 1/2

- Mullah Zabi who was the deputy of Mullah Salaam the so called mastermind of the Tali operations was sent back to the pavilion :P

کندز کے گورنر محترم ملا عبدالسلام اخند کی شہادت کی خبریں بے بنیاد ہیں، ذبیح اللہ مجاہد 0093785624953

Source: Kunduz update | Page 2

I will translate this for you... It says" The governer of Kunduz Respected Mulla Abdul Salaam's news of martyrdom are baseless(fake). Zabi ullah Mujahid (Official spokeman Amaraat Islamia Afghanistan)
 
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The commander added that the insurgency would not stop at Kunduz.

“This is the beginning, and our aim is Kabul. You will see how we capture Kabul and hang these puppets there in squares,” he said.

This is quite a confident statement, and some of us will be back to old memories of childhood.
 
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Damn. The sheer audacity of the taliban. Over running an entire city, and planting ieds on roads from surrounding provinces to slow down and inflict losses to the ANA.

Haven't seen shit like this since the Soviet days.

They really took revenge for the Kunduz airlift.
 
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Zabihullah Mujahid claims that Afghan forces left big booty for them in kunduz which include many tanks and Rangers in working condition + ammo, also talis will release Audio tape of Mullah salam whom NDS declare dead...

Also Tali sources are claiming that they have capture big part of Kunduz air port.. soon it will fall to Talis o_O
 
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Fuked up situation there... Hope Afghani govt takes back kunduz...

I'm already worried about the future if Afghanistan ... Worried that Afghan forces might not be able to hold back talis when the Americans leave...

The sad truth is that a professional military institution takes decades to build ... ANA is hardly there yet... Iraqi military is also an example ..
 
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Good work. I hope you guys take back city soon. And such kind of city captures don't happen again.
They need to start talks other wise things are not looking good for ANA. No analyst are suggesting Taliban will trying to hold on this city they wanted to slap Afghan government they did it and scary part is now they have Tanks and APCs and other weapons left by Afghan forces. As soon as talks start and if Afghan Government manage to make Taliban part of government it would be their biggest win.

Zabihullah Mujahid claims that Afghan forces left big booty for them in kunduz which include many tanks and Rangers in working condition + ammo, also talis will release Audio tape of Mullah salam whom NDS declare dead...

Also Tali sources are claiming that they have capture big part of Kunduz air port.. soon it will fall to Talis o_O
Yes that is the most dangerous part now Afghan Taliban now have Tanks and other modern equipment with them and @DESERT FIGHTER Yes professional Armies take time but the question here is will to fight. In 1948 our whole nation and Army had will to fight and we did, the thing lacking in both ANA and Iraqi forces is will to fight. On the other hand weather we like it or not despite lack of weaponry both Taliban and dumbos from ISIS are willing to go to any extent.
 
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Kunduz is one of the few cities in North Eastern Afghanistan region of Baakhtar (Bactria) with the Pashtuns in the majority. There was strong resistance in Kunduz from Taliban in 2001 as well. B-52 bombers were employed to bomb Kunduz in November 2001 before the city could be wrested from Taliban control.

I have seen some commentators saying Afghan Taliban had help from Chechens, Uzbeks & the TTP. It is easy to blame foreign fighters & inefficient government, majority of the Taliban fighter are Afghan Pashtuns. Whether you like it or not, it hard to deny that though not necessarily the majority; there must be significant support for Taliban among the Pashtun population of Kunduz. Without this it would have been impossible for Taliban to take over the city so easily.

I knew an Afghan Tajik student from Kabul, Khalilah Husseini (now sadly deceased) during my student days in 1960’s who lived in a bed-sit in the same building. We had many discussions about system of gov’t in Afghanistan.

As I understand it; until the Zahir Shah; Afghan Gov’t was a decentralized system. Each new King had to be accepted by all tribal leaders in a Loya Jirga. Once that was done, people generally accepted him as their sovereign. However actual control of central gov’t was limited to major cities such as Kabul, Qandahar, and Ghazni etc.; with law & order in the outer provinces largely responsibility of the semi-independent tribal elders. Something similar to Baluchistan during the Raj. Soviet invasion disturbed this government system which had worked well since the foundation of Afghanistan by Ahmed Shah in the 18th century.

During Soviet Afghan war, local tribal chiefs became leaders of the Mujahedeen and later independent warlords of their area. Post 9/11 Afghan gov’ts and the elections are new to Afghanistan because tribal loyalties supersede writ of the central gov’t. Taliban succeeded thru exploitation of deeply held religious traditions accompanied by brute force which simply eliminated any dissenter as “Enemy” of Islam; something that elected government cannot do.

It is quite possible that Taliban would regain control over most of the southern Pashtun belt after the Americans vacate in 2016. But it is highly unlikely that Taliban would be able to retake Herat, Hazarajat and Panjshir valley. Kunduz would probably be retaken by the government forces; however it appears that we would not have peace in Afghanistan for some time to come.
 
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Yes that is the most dangerous part now Afghan Taliban now have Tanks and other modern equipment with them


Tanks or APCs will not going to do any good for Taliban... u forget that US still have presence in Afghanistan...
 
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