KSA never asked for Ground Troops

[chauvunist]

Question ... Defending Makkah and Madinah from ... !?

From any Fitna..

Zarvan is more loyle to the saudies then the saudies themselves..

So are many Pakistani's who acts more Iranian's than Iranian themselves...we have a fair share of all...

 

[Rakan.SA]

let me clarify some facts. and specially for @SOHEIL

1. why are you surprised that makka and madinah needs protection ?! did you forget that iranians killed and injured 1000s in makkah during hajj ?! 4 or 5 times ?
did you forget that iranians brought 52 KG of C4 explosives to makkah during hajj ? btw you cant find C4 in the supermarket only countries can make C4. not terrorist organizations.
did you forget that iranians used deadly gas in makka in almouasem tunnel ?
did you forget just few years ago shia under the command of iranian puppets in qatif went to madinah and made an organized attack on the graves of prophets family and his companions ?
but hey im sure your government dont show you those stuff. they control your minds.

2. regarding the attack on yemen. and this is for all of you
first saudi is more than capable to handle the war on its own. AND secure its border. and im not saying this cuz im saudi or any of this BS. no room for feelings here and showing off. i know what we got very well. my family are in the army and police. plus im saudi and i know how tribes function in saudi. in few days the government can gather 1 million volunteers. but we dont need that. we need to do its through international law with strong allies. we dont have any hidden agenda. saudi is well known for that. not even its enemies can say we do dirty games and have hidden agenda. and thats one of the reason we are respected in world community even countries that dont agree with us respect us for this.
having such a coalition has a meaning and a political message to the world and specially to the big countries in the security council. and its meant to give it a strong legitimacy. the UN security council is failing to do its job and its a political tool as you can all see. and thats exactly why saudi refused a seat in it. cuz of its double standards and hypocrisy. let me give you few examples
A. when they said using chemical weapons is a red line. that line was crossed and nothing happened.
B. when it was used russia came up with the offer that bashar al-assad get rid of all his chemical weapons. thats to cover him up.
C. russia asking for a peace agreament based on geneva 1 and 2 that russia it self accepted while its still using its veto to protect bashar alasad and they are still supplying him with weapons. including strategic weapons!
so as you can see no one is intreasted in 4 or 5 million arabs and muslims that have been killed over the past 14 years. an no one is intreasted about 500,000 syrian killed and 11-12 million refugees and displaced syrians.

so the kingdom needed a strong coalition to stand in the face of the world including US rusiia and iran.
there was a plan for a new middle east. they wanted to reshape it but HAMDU LELLAH we ruined their plans. and let me assure you pakistan is on this list.
you have to understand the dirty game of politics. this plan i said is not a secret. its not a joke. some countries have plans to attack the muslim world. iran is one of those countries. also this is not a secret. khomeinei said it in his 50 year plan. a lot of official political figures said it in iran. and there are other nations involved but not as much as iran.
iran isnt doing all this on its own.
and if anyone here thinks that ALL the nuclear talks was about irans nuclear program only then im sorry you are naive and i suggest you stop talking about politics and find something else to talk about.
i think we all agree that enough is enough. yemen is just the beginning. the rest is coming on the way. in shaa allah yemen will not be like syria and iraq for many reasons. and after we are done other steps will be taken to stablize the region and bring peace.

let me end this with reminding you that after all this we did not break one international law. and its all done through arab defense agreement and international law.

 

[SOHEIL]

let me clarify some facts. and specially for @SOHEIL

1. why are you surprised that makka and madinah needs protection ?! did you forget that iranians killed and injured 1000s in makkah during hajj ?! 4 or 5 times ?
did you forget that iranians brought 52 KG of C4 explosives to makkah during hajj ? btw you cant find C4 in the supermarket only countries can make C4. not terrorist organizations.
did you forget that iranians used deadly gas in makka in almouasem tunnel ?
did you forget just few years ago shia under the command of iranian puppets in qatif went to madinah and made an organized attack on the graves of prophets family and his companions ?
but hey im sure your government dont show you those stuff. they control your minds.

2. regarding the attack on yemen. and this is for all of you
first saudi is more than capable to handle the war on its own. AND secure its border. and im not saying this cuz im saudi or any of this BS. no room for feelings here and showing off. i know what we got very well. my family are in the army and police. plus im saudi and i know how tribes function in saudi. in few days the government can gather 1 million volunteers. but we dont need that. we need to do its through international law with strong allies. we dont have any hidden agenda. saudi is well known for that. not even its enemies can say we do dirty games and have hidden agenda. and thats one of the reason we are respected in world community even countries that dont agree with us respect us for this.
having such a coalition has a meaning and a political message to the world and specially to the big countries in the security council. and its meant to give it a strong legitimacy. the UN security council is failing to do its job and its a political tool as you can all see. and thats exactly why saudi refused a seat in it. cuz of its double standards and hypocrisy. let me give you few examples
A. when they said using chemical weapons is a red line. that line was crossed and nothing happened.
B. when it was used russia came up with the offer that bashar al-assad get rid of all his chemical weapons. thats to cover him up.
C. russia asking for a peace agreament based on geneva 1 and 2 that russia it self accepted while its still using its veto to protect bashar alasad and they are still supplying him with weapons. including strategic weapons!
so as you can see no one is intreasted in 4 or 5 million arabs and muslims that have been killed over the past 14 years. an no one is intreasted about 500,000 syrian killed and 11-12 million refugees and displaced syrians.

so the kingdom needed a strong coalition to stand in the face of the world including US rusiia and iran.
there was a plan for a new middle east. they wanted to reshape it but HAMDU LELLAH we ruined their plans. and let me assure you pakistan is on this list.
you have to understand the dirty game of politics. this plan i said is not a secret. its not a joke. some countries have plans to attack the muslim world. iran is one of those countries. also this is not a secret. khomeinei said it in his 50 year plan. a lot of official political figures said it in iran. and there are other nations involved but not as much as iran.
iran isnt doing all this on its own.
and if anyone here thinks that ALL the nuclear talks was about irans nuclear program only then im sorry you are naive and i suggest you stop talking about politics and find something else to talk about.
i think we all agree that enough is enough. yemen is just the beginning. the rest is coming on the way. in shaa allah yemen will not be like syria and iraq for many reasons. and after we are done other steps will be taken to stablize the region and bring peace.

let me end this with reminding you that after all this we did not break one international law. and its all done through arab defense agreement and international law.

So many lies behind facts !!!

let me clarify some facts. and specially for @SOHEIL

1. why are you surprised that makka and madinah needs protection ?! did you forget that iranians killed and injured 1000s in makkah during hajj ?! 4 or 5 times ?
did you forget that iranians brought 52 KG of C4 explosives to makkah during hajj ? btw you cant find C4 in the supermarket only countries can make C4. not terrorist organizations.
did you forget that iranians used deadly gas in makka in almouasem tunnel ?
did you forget just few years ago shia under the command of iranian puppets in qatif went to madinah and made an organized attack on the graves of prophets family and his companions ?
but hey im sure your government dont show you those stuff. they control your minds.

2. regarding the attack on yemen. and this is for all of you
first saudi is more than capable to handle the war on its own. AND secure its border. and im not saying this cuz im saudi or any of this BS. no room for feelings here and showing off. i know what we got very well. my family are in the army and police. plus im saudi and i know how tribes function in saudi. in few days the government can gather 1 million volunteers. but we dont need that. we need to do its through international law with strong allies. we dont have any hidden agenda. saudi is well known for that. not even its enemies can say we do dirty games and have hidden agenda. and thats one of the reason we are respected in world community even countries that dont agree with us respect us for this.
having such a coalition has a meaning and a political message to the world and specially to the big countries in the security council. and its meant to give it a strong legitimacy. the UN security council is failing to do its job and its a political tool as you can all see. and thats exactly why saudi refused a seat in it. cuz of its double standards and hypocrisy. let me give you few examples
A. when they said using chemical weapons is a red line. that line was crossed and nothing happened.
B. when it was used russia came up with the offer that bashar al-assad get rid of all his chemical weapons. thats to cover him up.
C. russia asking for a peace agreament based on geneva 1 and 2 that russia it self accepted while its still using its veto to protect bashar alasad and they are still supplying him with weapons. including strategic weapons!
so as you can see no one is intreasted in 4 or 5 million arabs and muslims that have been killed over the past 14 years. an no one is intreasted about 500,000 syrian killed and 11-12 million refugees and displaced syrians.

so the kingdom needed a strong coalition to stand in the face of the world including US rusiia and iran.
there was a plan for a new middle east. they wanted to reshape it but HAMDU LELLAH we ruined their plans. and let me assure you pakistan is on this list.
you have to understand the dirty game of politics. this plan i said is not a secret. its not a joke. some countries have plans to attack the muslim world. iran is one of those countries. also this is not a secret. khomeinei said it in his 50 year plan. a lot of official political figures said it in iran. and there are other nations involved but not as much as iran.
iran isnt doing all this on its own.
and if anyone here thinks that ALL the nuclear talks was about irans nuclear program only then im sorry you are naive and i suggest you stop talking about politics and find something else to talk about.
i think we all agree that enough is enough. yemen is just the beginning. the rest is coming on the way. in shaa allah yemen will not be like syria and iraq for many reasons. and after we are done other steps will be taken to stablize the region and bring peace.

let me end this with reminding you that after all this we did not break one international law. and its all done through arab defense agreement and international law.

So many lies behind facts !!!

 

[Rakan.SA]

So many lies behind facts !!!



So many lies behind facts !!!

lies ?! give me one please. its easy to talk you know

 

[daring dude]

@truthseeker2010 & @Capt.Popeye the thing is not that Saudis can't defend it even they have huge Defense Budget.
but then my question is y USA & European countries r under the umbrella of NATO... Or USA Guarding South Korea, Japan or Taiwna even they all have Amred forces to guide and defend them.. they dont have their defensing capabilities.. .one side or the other, they think NATO have better capability or Manouver then them.. or the edge over them.. So same is happening here,, Alhamdulilah Pakistani Forces and Intelligence are highly acclaimed by not even Muslim Countries, by the World also ...and also it's Fact that Pak forces are the One who vacate these sacred and sensitive Places and even Face to face battle with other enemies of Islam.. so they believe and trust on PA capabilities.. and if their will be any threat on these Sacred or Sensitive Places will arrive, then whole Ummah will be their to guard and defend these places,, not only Pak forces.....

 

[Capt.Popeye]

When you don't know something please keep quite. Pakistan will fight along with KSA forces in defence of Saudi Arabia not only Pakistan but pretty much entire Armed Forces of Muslim world will fight you can in some delusion if you want but this is the fact

That is very good then
Now, when are you going to fight there? Seeing the present condition of the KSA Army, they need all the help that they can find or rent.

 

[SOHEIL]

lies ?! give me one please. its easy to talk you know

@Serpentine
@rmi5
@raptor22

 

[Zarvan]

That is very good then
Now, when are you going to fight there? Seeing the present condition of the KSA Army, they need all the help that they can find or rent.

Right now they are not in need they are doing good what they need is intelligence support and we are giving them that

 

[Rakan.SA]

That is very good then
Now, when are you going to fight there? Seeing the present condition of the KSA Army, they need all the help that they can find or rent.

oh yeah we are collapsing!! yes we are very very vulnerable! lol i think its a sign of strength when your country is in war and life still goes on in your country including scheduled military exercise. like the one happening now with pakistan "samsam 5"

@Serpentine
@rmi5
@raptor22

are you calling for back up ?!

i didnt ask you to debate. all i asked you is to show me one lie. you cant copy paste ?!

 

[SOHEIL]

are you calling for back up ?!

i didnt ask you to debate. all i asked you is to show me one lie. you cant copy paste ?!

Sorry ... i don't have time for copy / paste !

please wait for back up ...

 

[truthseeker2010]

@truthseeker2010 & @Capt.Popeye the thing is not that Saudis can't defend it even they have huge Defense Budget.
but then my question is y USA & European countries r under the umbrella of NATO... Or USA Guarding South Korea, Japan or Taiwna even they all have Amred forces to guide and defend them.. they dont have their defensing capabilities.. .one side or the other, they think NATO have better capability or Manouver then them.. or the edge over them.. So same is happening here,, Alhamdulilah Pakistani Forces and Intelligence are highly acclaimed by not even Muslim Countries, by the World also ...and also it's Fact that Pak forces are the One who vacate these sacred and sensitive Places and even Face to face battle with other enemies of Islam.. so they believe and trust on PA capabilities.. and if their will be any threat on these Sacred or Sensitive Places will arrive, then whole Ummah will be their to guard and defend these places,, not only Pak forces.....

Nato is a collective force, and it was made to counter Soviet union, and they are mainly offensive oriented with main punch coming from USA. Secondly we are nowhere close to what usa is to nato, other muslim countries such as turkey and KSA itself are conventionally superior to us. We are here talking for defensive posture. As for Nuclear umbrella, there is no such need for that in short term, but IF need arises for KSA, we will be there for them. But that i don't think will ever happen.

The highlighted part is a very crystal clear fact.

 

[Rakan.SA]

Sorry ... i don't have time for copy / paste !

please wait for back up ...

but its much faster to copy paste. come on man you can do it. just one lie.

 

[Sine Nomine]

It's misleading to suggest that they've never helped us, and while I am always skeptical whenever KSA offers Pakistan assistance, Pakistan has received major economic aid from KSA that has helped Pakistan keep it's economy intact. Without KSA, Pakistan would be far FAR worse off economically. The Zardari era is a prime example of why you should never piss off the Saudis.

Now, moving that aside, geopolitical realities have forced Pakistan to side with KSA. The only thing Pakistan can control is how much help it sends, it's involvement is inevitable. Quite frankly, if Pakistan refuses outright, there are going to be major consequences. I don't like this as well, but Pakistan has little choice in the matter.

sir everyone in this country knows today we are being fed up that we can't live without foreign aid.After our particiption into 1991 Gulf War KSA helped us a lot and after decade TTP showed up that help after 1991 was used to only promote there religious agenda.

 

[daring dude]

@Rakan.SA & @SOHEIL Let we dont have to indulge in sectarian war here,, as the main Mission is to fall us a part in ,, and this is biggest controversy.. US backing Shais, for it's Iraq Support.. and also Saudis & other gulf nations are near to israel and Israel backing Sunnis.. and like that dogfight among Muslims they will get their Motives...
what ever is happening, We all Muslims are the believers of islam, and also have same Holly Book (Quran Paak) , and same Prophet ... and only that unity will break a part their plans for dividing Muslims...

 

[Rakan.SA]

Nato is a collective force, and it was made to counter Soviet union, and they are mainly offensive oriented with main punch coming from USA. Secondly we are nowhere close to what usa is to nato, other muslim countries such as turkey and KSA itself are conventionally superior to us. We are here talking for defensive posture. As for Nuclear umbrella, there is no such need for that in short term, but IF need arises for KSA, we will be there for them. But that i don't think will ever happen.

The highlighted part is a very crystal clear fact.

in this time of the world coalitions is much needed. you can not survive without one.
its almost impossible

sir everyone in this country knows today we are being fed up that we can't live without foreign aid.After our particiption into 1991 Gulf War KSA helped us a lot and after decade TTP showed up that help after 1991 was used to only promote there religious agenda.

you mean saudi is promoting religious agenda in pakistan ?