You forgot to mention North Vietnam was so weakened, that when we left for political reasons it still took several years for them to gain the strength to take the south.
Vast size is still a deterrent....Few countries have that luxury. The US, China, Russia, Canada (count them with US size when push comes to shove) India, perhaps Brazil.
It's there because even with 4 times the population...in your own yard....you couldn't beat a small US expeditionary forces 1000's of miles from our shore. Never had the pleasure of being stationed there, but my dad was....and the locals were always grateful for the @zz-kicking they gave the Chinese.
You keep saying retreat....we retreated from the Philipines....kicked the Japs sideways....retreated at the Bulge....crushed the Nazis.....Hitler says "no retreat".....gets huge forces cut off. You have no clue about military matters.......go watch some manga or whatever Chinese kids do....when faced with unexpected force you consolidate your position and pull back....the inability to do this is why second rate (like Chinese....losingest army ever) get humiliated throughout their sad history. You did help us in WW2 however....Chinese resistance was such a sad joke the Japanese got over-confident.you are full of sh@t are you telling me you are more credible than the person that made the retreat from hell video?
USA doesn't even teach the Korean War it's so humiliating for them. The memory is so horrific it's been blacked out.
The same army that defeated 20+ nations in Korea is now ready to punish our hostile neighbors like India, Japan and Philippines
READ
Modern China: a guide to a century of change - Graham Hutchings - Google Books
China's Bitter Victory: The War With Japan, 1937-1945 - Google Books
China at War - Google Books
In the Boxer Rebellion your Eight Nation Alliance forces (Japan, America, Britain, Russia, Austria, France, Italy, Germany) were humiliated at the Seymour Expedition by Qing Imperial troops. When the Qing Imperial army retreated at Tientsin, Yangcun and Beicang, heavy casulaties were inflicted on America and Japanese forces.
Both the American commanding officer Liscum and his flag bearer were killed and the 9th infantry regiment suffered 10% casulaties. The marines under Smedley Butler were ambushed and pinned down by Boxers in a fight outisde Tianjin before the city was taken. The Japanese suffered heavy casulaties at Beicang, and Chinese killed were less than the Eight Nation alliance casulaties at that battle. Butler also witnessed a gruesome suprise when he found corpses of Japanese soldiers in a village.
A Muslim General called Ma Fulu fought in the Boxer rebellion and humiliated the entire eight nation alliance at Langfang and drove them all the way back to Tianjin. His son and grandson Ma Hongbin and Ma Dunjing fought in WW2 against Japan and humiliated the Japanese in Suiyuan. Dealing humiliating blows to the invaders ran in the family.
Ah and our own Taiwanese aboriginals armed with spears and primitive muskets managed to eliminate an entire crew of American sailors and defeat an American military expedition while sufering no casulaties themselves.
Rover incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Formosa Expedition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We kicked the western imperialists out of Taiwan
Siege of Fort Zeelandia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And halted them again when they tried to take the island.
Keelung Campaign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Our aboriginals were as brutal to the French as they were to the Americans. They cut off the heads of French soldiers and put them on display. The french were defeated in their attempts to take Taiwan
The island of Formosa, past and present: History, people, resources, and ... - James Wheeler Davidson - Google Books
Modern Chinese Warfare, 1795-1989 - Bruce A. Elleman - Google Books
, Huwei (湖尾, and Longkou (壟口. Regiment 244 was the first ashore landing near Lungkou where Nationalist defenders raked them with machine-gun fire, artillery, and mortars. They suffered heavy casualties. Regiments 251 and 253 fared better, landing near Guningtou and Huwei respectively where they broke through ROC defenses and continued to head inland. Arriving at high tide, many of the PLA landing vessels became caught on submerged anti-amphibious landing beach obstacles and immobilized. When the tide went out, the PLA landing vessels became beached and were unable to return to the mainland to transport the second wave of reinforcements. Although these Communists were initially supported by artillery fire from the mainland, it had to cease firing once the infantry disembarked. Some of the troops, stranded in their vulnerable landing craft still far from shore, had to swim or wade some 650 yards in order to reach it, rendering them also sitting ducks for the defenders. The beached PLA vessels were destroyed shortly afterwards by gunfire from two ROC Navy vessels patrolling off the northwest coast of Guningtou, as well as by ROC troops who burned the mostly wooden boats using flamethrowers, grenades, gasoline and oil., but were beaten back by ROC armor by early morning. PLA Regiment 253 holding Guanyin Hill (觀音山 and the Huwei Highlands (湖尾高地 were also forced to fall back by 12:00 after an overwhelming ROC counterattack of infantry, tanks, some soldiers with flamethrowers to burn the PLA ships. They were also supported by mortars and artillery.The PLA troops were attacked from three sides. PLA Regiment 251 managed to break out of an ROC encirclement and entered the village of Guningtou, and dug in at Lincuo (林厝. Shortly afterwards, Regiment 251 was attacked by the ROC 14th and 118th divisions, with the ROC 118th division suffering heavy casualties. By the end of the day, the PLA had lost its beachheads at Huwei and Lungkou. at 3PM. Surviving PLA forces began falling back to the coast.
Ha Ha poor China Boy has not read about the Battle of Kinmen
Battle[edit]
October 25, 1949[edit]
At around 01:30 on October 25, 1949, a Nationalist patrol accidentally set off one of the mines. The blast alerted other units all along the northern shore and the PLA's quiet approach to Kinmen was compromised. Immediately, flares were fired into the air by ROC troops, which brightly illuminated the PLA's fleet and gave the Nationalists clear shots at the former. Later at about 02:00 when the tide had begun to recede, PLA troops from regiments 244, 251, and 253 landed on the north side of Greater Quemoy Island at Guningtou (古寧頭
The advancing PLA forces were met by the ROC 18th Army and US-made M5A1 tanks of ROC 1st Bn, 3rd Tank Regiment. PLA Regiment 244 held high ground at Shuangru Hill (雙乳山
October 26, 1949[edit]
At 03:00 on October 26, around 1,000 troops in 4 companies from PLA Regiment 246 and the 85th division landed on Quemoy to reinforce PLA forces already on the island landing again at Huwei and Guningtou. At dawn, Regiment 246 managed to break through ROC forces surrounding the village of Guningtou, making a rendezvous with the surviving PLA troops holed up in the town. At 06:30, the ROC 118th division launched a counterattack along the northern coast on PLA forces in Guningtou at Lincuo. The resulting battle was extremely bloody and soon turned into urban warfare in the streets and alleyways of Guningtou. With air support from American-made B-26 and B-25 bombers of the ROC Air Force, ROC forces eventually prevailed, taking Lincuo by noon and Nanshan (南山
October 27, 1949[edit]
By the early morning of October 27, the surviving and desperately hungry PLA forces had exhausted their food and ammunition. 1,300 PLA troops retreated to the beaches north of Guningtou. After a final ROC assault, the remaining PLA troops surrendered to ROC forces at 10:00 on October 27. All of the PLA troops who had landed on Quemoy were effectively lost.
Aftermath[edit]
Following the failure at Guningtou, PLA General Ye Fei submitted an official apology to Mao Zedong asking to be punished for his failure. General Ye attributed the failure of the operation to three factors: An insufficient number of landing vessels, failure to properly secure the beachheads, and the lack of an overall commanding officer to oversee the three regiments involved in the first wave. As Ye was one of Mao's favorite generals, Mao never took any action against him.
For ROC forces accustomed to defeat after defeat against the PLA while fighting on the mainland, the victory at Guningtou provided a much needed morale boost. The failure of the PRC to take Quemoy effectively halted its advance towards Taiwan. With the outbreak of the Korean War in 1950 and the signing of the US-ROC Mutual Defense Treaty, the PRC's plans for the assault on Taiwan were put on hold.
Due to its defeat, the Battle of Guningtou was not widely publicized in the PRC until recently with the publication of articles within the PLA examining reasons for its failure due to lack of amphibious landing experience, not enough landing crafts, no armor or anti-armor ability, and expecting to win the battle after one day of fighting and therefore not bringing enough ammo, supplies and water with the first wave.[5] The battle is seen as being highly significant in Taiwan as it laid the foundation for the current status quo between mainland China and Taiwan.
China already controls Taiwan. Taiwan is so terrified of China they re-elected the pro-Chinese president in 2012
China already controls Taiwan. Taiwan is so terrified of China they re-elected the pro-Chinese president in 2012
China already controls Taiwan. Taiwan is so terrified of China they re-elected the pro-Chinese president in 2012
