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Korean soliders the crulest war criminals in Vietnam war?

I read some articles claim that S.Korean soliders were the crulest war crime perpetrators in the Vietnam war.S.Korea sent 312,853 troops to Vietnam and they killed at least 8,000 Vietnamese civilians,mostly women and children and they raped thousands of Vietnamese women and now many Vietnamese have both Vietnamese and Korean origin.

Does anyone here can provided some detailed information about this little known history of the Vietnam war?

It can compare with the crimes of chinese: In 1979, China used their regular army to attack Vietnamese civilians, who were living along the border Vietnam-China.
Especially as today they are still proud of their actions!
I give 3 of the many comments talked about that (of Chinese members):

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/165777-vietnam-asks-china-end-sovereignty-violations-10.html#post2718607

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/153499-vietnam-launches-its-first-domestically-made-warship-equipped-missiles-2.html#post2502784

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/161513-chinese-coast-guard-opens-fire-vietnamese-ship.html#post2634653

The text line in red above explains why today we still hate the chinese.
 
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Just one question, what was in their for the South Koreans? Was Vietnam a threat to Korea in any way?
Vietnam was Not a threat to S.Korea, but SK owed US lots of money after Korea war, so they were forced to be mercenary for US in VN war.

SK troop stationed in safe zone of S.VN, they only faced with guerillar force not regular force, but still lost 5,000 troops. anyway, SK troop is better than PLA bcz PLA lost 26,000 troops when fighting with our guerillar force in 1979.
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Just one question, what was in their for the South Koreans? Was Vietnam a threat to Korea in any way?
Unlike some who believed communist propaganda, the South Koreans were not 'forced' to fight in Viet Nam. The South Korean government believed, wrongly or rightly is a separate issue for discussion, that at least South Korea owe the US for the Korean War, and that opposing communists in Viet Nam was no worse than opposing communism in Korea.

As for the argument that somehow facing the Viet Cong was easier than the facing the NVA, that is also wrong. The Viet Cong's ability to blend in with the civilians made hunting and combating them difficult and dangerous. It should be noted that the Viet Cong's ability to wage war and effectiveness conveniently changes according to a person's stand. In one argument, the Viet Cong practically defeated the entire US/SVN alliance all by themselves, but in this one, fighting the Viet Cong is amazingly a piece of cake.

Go figer...

I read some articles claim that S.Korean soliders were the crulest war crime perpetrators in the Vietnam war.S.Korea sent 312,853 troops to Vietnam and they killed at least 8,000 Vietnamese civilians,mostly women and children and they raped thousands of Vietnamese women and now many Vietnamese have both Vietnamese and Korean origin.

Does anyone here can provided some detailed information about this little known history of the Vietnam war?
You mean communist propaganda is not enough for you?
 
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Unlike some who believed communist propaganda, the South Koreans were not 'forced' to fight in Viet Nam. The South Korean government believed, wrongly or rightly is a separate issue for discussion, that at least South Korea owe the US for the Korean War, and that opposing communists in Viet Nam was no worse than opposing communism in Korea.
Ho CHi Minh dismissed communist party in 1946, but US still supported France to dominated VN again.When France lost in Dien Bien Phu battle, US took over France and tried to conquer VN , but failed too.So, communist theory had Nothing related to VN war. it just US's propaganda to fool their own people to die in vain in VN.
As for the argument that somehow facing the Viet Cong was easier than the facing the NVA, that is also wrong. The Viet Cong's ability to blend in with the civilians made hunting and combating them difficult and dangerous. It should be noted that the Viet Cong's ability to wage war and effectiveness conveniently changes according to a person's stand. In one argument, the Viet Cong practically defeated the entire US/SVN alliance all by themselves, but in this one, fighting the Viet Cong is amazingly a piece of cake.
Viet Cong is just guerillar forced with basic training and poor equiped , they had No tank, no artillery, no jet fighter like NVA, so facing VC was much more easier than NVA.
 
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I read some articles claim that S.Korean soliders were the crulest war crime perpetrators in the Vietnam war.S.Korea sent 312,853 troops to Vietnam and they killed at least 8,000 Vietnamese civilians,mostly women and children and they raped thousands of Vietnamese women and now many Vietnamese have both Vietnamese and Korean origin.

Does anyone here can provided some detailed information about this little known history of the Vietnam war?

@ To beijingwalker.

As you admitted on PDF that you are Manchu in native. What do you think about Photo here. It happent in China, victim was Manchu.

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Today is June 4th Massacre 19th anniversary. The incident show that how cruelty is the Chinese government is.

English Version Manchukuo Temporary Government Official Website
 
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cruel koreans indeed.
but if vietnameses like to be slaughtered by them,why should we chinese care?
 
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cruel koreans indeed.
but if vietnameses like to be slaughtered by them,why should we chinese care?

Chinese guy created this thread. Who care ?
What did cruel chinese PLA in Vietnam 1979 ?

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"Massacre in Tong Chup, Hoa An district. Chinese troops invaded using bamboo poles, wood pounding beat 43 dead women and children thrown into wells".
 
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Chinese guy created this thread. Who care ?
What did cruel chinese PLA in Vietnam 1979 ?

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"Massacre in Tong Chup, Hoa An district. Chinese troops invaded using bamboo poles, wood pounding beat 43 dead women and children thrown into wells".
lol,what did we have to do with korean rap and killed you people?
don't bring china in please.
 
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lol,what did we have to do with korean rap and killed you people?
don't bring china in please.


Who or which soliders the crulest war criminals in Vietnam war?
Chinese killed Vietnamese 1979, both of you attacked Vietnam and killed innocent Vietnamese. Chinese have been joined :smokin:
 
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Who or which soliders the crulest war criminals in Vietnam war?
Chinese killed Vietnamese 1979, both of you attacked Vietnam and killed innocent Vietnamese. Chinese have been joined :smokin:
Vietnam is very similar to Korea.

South Korea was very cruel to Vietnamese because Koreans were humiliated by the Japanese for 80 years between 1890's and 1945. The Korean royal family was tortured to death and all Koreans were made slaves of Japanese Empire.

PLA taught a good lesson to Vietnam in 1979 too. We killed 130,000 people in just 28 days. But Chinese cruelty was not special. Everybody was cruel to the Vietnamese: the French, the Japanese, the Americans.

The Straits Times (Singapore)
August 21, 2008

THE Socialist Republic of Vietnam declared its independence on Sept 2, 1945. The declaration came at the tail end of a famine which began in 1944. The famine still haunts the consciousness of many who were alive then.

An estimated two million Vietnamese, or 10 per cent of the population then, died during the famine. By comparison, three million Vietnamese were killed during the Second Indochina War, from 1954 to 1975.

The causes of the famine are hardly in dispute. In 1940, the Japanese army occupied Vietnam but left Vichy France in charge of its administration. By the terms of the May 1941 Franco-Japanese treaty, French Indochina had to supply grains to Japan. From 1941 to 1944, Vietnam supplied 700,000 to 1.3 million tonnes of padi and maize to Japan, roughly equivalent to 50 to 80 per cent of its grain production. And a fairly significant acreage was forced into the production of jute, hemp, cotton and castor-oil plants - also for Japan - thus reducing food production. The wartime destruction of roads and other transport infrastructure made it difficult to transport excess food from southern Vietnam to the north. What ensued was tantamount to genocide.

Many victims walked long distances to provincial capitals, and thousands marched on the capital, Hanoi. Survivors resident there then tell of long lines of ghost-like figures trooping into the city. Hanoi families often found corpses in front of their homes. Huge pits were dug in rural areas near Hanoi for mass burials. The wages paid to burial workers went down by the day, and in Hanoi people were soon burying bodies just for a bowl of gruel. The dead in rural areas were left in the open to rot because people did not have the strength to bury them.

Extreme conditions drove many people to extreme behaviour. The vomit of one became the food of another. People followed horses and oxen to eat the dung or to search for the occasional undigested pieces of food in the dung. Food in the mouth was not necessarily secure, because there were frequent fights to force food out of mouths. People stole, robbed and killed for food.

One family that made cakes for sale reports how it made cakes from earth to guard against theft. Customers would pay for the earth cakes and redeem them for real ones later elsewhere.

There are stories of how infants were eaten up by hungry dogs. Parents would leave their children at home to go look for food, only to find blood and bones in cribs when they returned.
This is why both Vietnamese and South Koreans delude themselves that they are a super military power when in fact they are always massacred by more powerful countries.
 
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Korea and China's war record in Vietnam

- Korea
Loss : 5,099
Kill : 47,000
Civilian Casualties : In the thousands according to Chinese posters.

- China
Loss : 26,000
Kill : 10,000
Civilian Casualties : In the tens of thousands, estimates go up as high as 100K

PLA taught a good lesson to Vietnam in 1979 too. We killed 130,000 people in just 28 days.
Only 10,000 were combat soldiers, the rest civilians.

Just one question, what was in their for the South Koreans? Was Vietnam a threat to Korea in any way?
The US threatened to pull its troops out of Korea and send them to Vietnam if Korea didn't send its troops. The US did pay the full cost of ROK deployment(The US was desperate for manpower to fight the war, not supplies.), nowadays, Korea is dragged into Iraq/Afghanistan and pays its own bills so that's a bad change.

In exchange for the deployment, the US supplied 80 or so F-4s to Korea, before it did to Japan. So the joke in Korea is that if Korea sent 30K troops to Afghanistan, the US might sell F-22 to Korea in return. And this actually almost happened during the Missionary Kidnapping Crisis during which 30 Korean missionaries were kidnapped, during which the Marine Corps begged the MoD to let them go and wipe Taliban out of the said provinces the ROKMC style.
 
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Vietnam and Korea were both China's vassal states for centuries. They were both massacred by more powerful countries including China, Japan and Western nations. Now they are both super-duper military powers! :lol:
 
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They were both massacred by more powerful countries including China, Japan and Western nations. Now they are both super-duper military powers! :lol:
There are 30,000 unmarked graves of PLA soldiers in ROK. North Korea has ten times more, including the grave of Mao's eldest son to which Chinese government officials including Wen Jiabao pay tribute to everytime they visit North Korea.

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