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KONY 2012 (Our Duty To Our Own Humanity)

All this attention and advertising KONY is rediculous, when they are 100 more people like him right now in this world.

The people are making money of this KONY stunt, by selling t shirts of him, to fund they trips to Africa and they food.
 
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Not being insensitive here. Making a meme is probably the best way to spread awareness.
 
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@ Hassan

That's what I've been saying, let the AU take care of this, it is within their jurisidiction after all. Let the UN Peacekeeping Mission resolve this if need be.

By the way doesn't Pakistan have UN Peacekeepers already in Uganda or at one point in time.

The militant army isn't active much in Northern Uganda. Their attacks now are in Northern Congo, Southern Sudan region. They left because the Ugandan army was going to launch a major offensive.
 
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Pakistan Army should deploy in Uganda to destroy Konya....

It is not necessary of US involvements to boost their reputations and hall of fames.

Konya = One fo the oldest cities of Turkey :)

KONY= This monster

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They are not making money of this.... You can check this organization rather than speculating on this forum....
 
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yesterday only i watched a movie called machine gun preacher and came to know about joseph kony .....
 
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This is utter nonsense, sorry to come like this. But this Kony's group consists today of maybe 100 (scattered) and they haven't been active since 2006, while the Ugandan army is accused of mass rape and looting themselves. So why raise awareness for something that doesn't even exist? This is easy money to raise for simple minded people and children, who do not even make the slightest research about the stuff they are watching.

@ Deno
They do not make money of this? here is how they use the money from donations:
8,9m donations spent in 2011
1,7m in US employment
357.000 in film cost
850.000 in production cost
751.000 in computer equipment
244.000 in professional services
1,7m in travel expenses
400.000 in yearly office rent in downtown Sand Diego
16.000 in entertainment etc...

So how exactly do they not make money of this? Their cause is according to Invisible Children (IC) raise awareness about KONY and his group LRA which hasn't been active since 2007. They are not bettering the condition via openng schools, hospitals etc with the massive money they get from donations but only filling their pockets and having an adventure overseas for a dead cause. If they recieved 8,9m in donation in 2011 try to think about how much this number will be in 2012 after the massive internet campaign.

If you really care about global injustice, i will recommend people to watch 101 East by Aljazeera english. At least their work is genuine. And the program shows much more important issues which effects millions of peoples life every single day.
Too young to work - 101 East - Al Jazeera English --> children workers in Bangladesh
Year end special - 101 East - Al Jazeera English --> Summary of the year 2011
India: Toxic Trade - 101 East - Al Jazeera English --> India and its toxic trade

Edit: Here is a UN report of Kony and LRA, these are facts, not some marketing. And it is done by the UN which has decades of accountability compared to Invisible Children which we have barely heard about. http://www.un.org/children/conflict/english/fact-sheet-the-lra-and-children.html
 
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around 2 years before, I had got a face to face with few Australian rulers on the issue of boat people coming from Afghanistan to Australia. I argued, "even if you justify bombing on Afghanistan because you are targeting the militants, how can you justify yourself if you kick those Afghan families who are coming to Australia by boat, with their women and kids, who are on run from there due to threat of bombing by NATO’s air strikes?" :hitwall:

I clearly said, “until Australia is part of NATO's war in Afghan which require bombing on the Afghan people to target militants, all those Afghan’s and Pak’s tribal area’s families who are threatened by these air strikes and are coming to Australia by boat, must be defended in Australia. It is inhuman to refuse the Afghan boat people if Australia is part of that war which require bombing on Afghan and Pak’s tribal areas.”



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things are getting worse in Australia. now people there straight say, "either leave Afghan or give citizenship to these Afghani boat people who are on run due to bombing in Afghan." see what people straight argue, as per Jamal, in between 1.00 min to 1.55min :angry:


 
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This is utter nonsense, sorry to come like this. But this Kony's group consists today of maybe 100 (scattered) and they haven't been active since 2006, while the Ugandan army is accused of mass rape and looting themselves. So why raise awareness for something that doesn't even exist? This is easy money to raise for simple minded people and children, who do not even make the slightest research about the stuff they are watching.

@ Deno
They do not make money of this? here is how they use the money from donations:
8,9m donations spent in 2011
1,7m in US employment
357.000 in film cost
850.000 in production cost
751.000 in computer equipment
244.000 in professional services
1,7m in travel expenses
400.000 in yearly office rent in downtown Sand Diego
16.000 in entertainment etc...

So how exactly do they not make money of this? Their cause is according to Invisible Children (IC) raise awareness about KONY and his group LRA which hasn't been active since 2007. They are not bettering the condition via openng schools, hospitals etc with the massive money they get from donations but only filling their pockets and having an adventure overseas for a dead cause. If they recieved 8,9m in donation in 2011 try to think about how much this number will be in 2012 after the massive internet campaign.

If you really care about global injustice, i will recommend people to watch 101 East by Aljazeera english. At least their work is genuine. And the program shows much more important issues which effects millions of peoples life every single day.
Too young to work - 101 East - Al Jazeera English --> children workers in Bangladesh
Year end special - 101 East - Al Jazeera English --> Summary of the year 2011
India: Toxic Trade - 101 East - Al Jazeera English --> India and its toxic trade

This campaing was about rasing the public awereness.... Thats why there is so much expense on stuff like, production, film, US employment-this incluede of lobbying in US congress-....

I don't care about global injustice.... I care about what this represents... (post #35)
 
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They have posted their expediture already, and indeed lot of money (nearly 1.2 million )goes to north american employees.
But then nobody knows how many employees they have,but it could be lot of people working on it.
Please watch the tyt episode i posted earlier, they discuss funding among other criticism.
 
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I don't care about global injustice.... I care about what this represents... (post #35)
What if it represents the same bloody ideology that George W. Bush, Madeleine Albright, Bernard-Henri Lévy and Nicolas Sarkozy have been pushing forward?

This video is emotionally touching, but it shouldn't mislead people about the true nature of "humanitarian interventionism", which is being openly promoted by the filmmakers.

"Humanitarian interventionism" is code word for imperialism and in most cases it makes everything just worse, not only in the country that's invaded, but throughout the whole region for many years.

Let's consider a critical review of Kony 2012:

What’s behind KONY 2012?

By Eugene Puryear
March 8, 2012

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Is the recent discovery of oil in Uganda contributing to imperialism's interest in the region?

The power of social media is immense. That fact was fully on display as Facebook walls and in-boxes everywhere flooded with messages from a new political campaign “Kony 2012.” Kony 2012 purports to be aimed at bringing to justice Joseph Kony, leader of the Lord’s Resistance Army, an armed rebel band that roams the jungles of northern Uganda and northeastern Democratic Republic of Congo. Kony is without a doubt an odious figure. Since 1987, his LRA has roamed across Uganda, the DRC, the Central African Republic and South Sudan.

Originally a part of a broader movement in Uganda focused on the rights of the Acholi people, the LRA morphed into a band of armed child soldiers, manipulated and drugged, rampaging wantonly across the landscape with seemingly no real goals or ideology. Principally, the LRA appears to be a vehicle for Kony’s own leadership fantasies, which are hard to decipher and most likely rooted in some ethereal alternative reality. It is indisputable that Kony and the LRA have had a devastating effect on the regions they have inhabited, engaging in killings, rapes and abductions that are deserving of condemnation.

Once these facts are taken into account, however, it must be said that the aims of Kony 2012, whether sincere or not, have absolutely no chance of helping the people of Uganda or the DRC to mitigate the ill effects of the LRA. Kony 2012 calls for military intervention from Western powers to capture Kony and extradite him to the Hague to be tried for war crimes.

While there is much to be said on this topic, progressive activists and revolutionary militants in the United States should keep three points in mind when considering the issues around the LRA.

1) Military intervention by the West has already been disastrous

The current Ugandan government has long been a friend of the West, and as it concerns the LRA, the United States in particular has been attempting to build up Ugandan military forces. In 2008, the U.S. African Command brought together the combined forces of the Ugandan, CAR and South Sudanese military in “Operation Lightning Thunder” to deliver a death blow to the LRA. This operation failed miserably, and in retaliation the LRA killed almost 1,000 people and abducted 700 people. Twenty thousand people were displaced in the process. One further casualty was fledgling peace talks that drowned in blood.

Rather than an isolated incident, this was just the most recent in a long line of failed attempts to destroy the LRA. The LRA operates in an area the size of France, significant parts of which are covered by dense jungle and seriously lacking in infrastructure. These offensives at best serve to drive the LRA further into the hardest to penetrate areas, where they live to fight another day. Small assassination squads and massive military forces have failed over and over to capture or kill Kony or make a significant dent in the LRA’s fighting ability. In fact, the only outcome of U.S.-supported offensives has been significant further suffering in the LRA’s areas of influence, where the innocent have been routinely victimized by the LRA’s retaliatory offensives.

Perversely, President Obama sent 100 troops to Uganda last fall to try again. As always, this new and improved plan is supposed to bear fruit, but the preponderance of evidence suggests that these strategies of dealing with the LRA militarily are at best aspirational and at worst (and most likely) futile.

2) Conflict is deeper than the LRA

As odious as the LRA may be, it is a limited part of a much broader regional conflict that has been raging across East Africa for well over a decade, in which millions of people have lost their lives and rape has become a weapon of war on an unprecedented scale. DRC, South Sudan and Uganda in particular have been racked by a series of regional conflicts fueled by the resource-extraction mania demanded by the always-hungry, never tired imperialist capital accumulation machine.

Over vast swaths of the countries mentioned above are a series of ethnic and regional conflicts that are further compounded by the desire of elites in the these states to establish their rule over both resource-rich areas and havens of their factional opponents.

This has created a vast array of militias of varying sizes and motivations continually fighting and moving across the region as necessary for survival, often using control over rudimentary mining operations to fund their activities. Some of these groups also ally themselves with one government or the other that provide funding and weapons and operate their own very brutal operations. On top of that, Western powers looking to exploit the resources of these regions ally themselves with these governments, arming and funding their military activities.

The Ugandan army that Kony 2012 hopes will put an end to the abuses of the LRA is itself a serial human rights abuser. In suppressing the Acholi revolt that the LRA sprang from, the Ugandan army forced thousands of people in the Acholi areas into concentration camps. There is also the brutal occupation Ugandan forces carried out for years in eastern DRC, systematically looting that country of a significant amount of its wealth. While hunting Kony in CAR, the Ugandan army looted, operated prostitution rings, and raped and infected girls with HIV. The Sudanese People’s Liberation Army, championed by Kony 2012, also has its own sordid record of brutal behavior.

It is patently ridiculous to suggest that sending a group of raping looters to solve human rights abuses will improve the situation for the peoples of Uganda, South Sudan or the DRC.

3) Strengthening the Ugandan army has repercussions for Ugandan progressives

Uganda is a country of deep divisions, and President Museveni has relied on a mix of co-option, intimidation and military campaigns to keep the country “unified” under the aegis of the National Resistance Movement. While a full analysis of the NRM government is beyond the scope of this article, it is worth noting that NRM often suppresses progressive activists, shows callous disregard for the rights of oppositional ethnic groups, and acts as the governmental wing of anti-gay lynch mobs.

Given this context, one cannot overlook the fact that better training, communications and arms for the Ugandan military is likely simply to result in more effective suppressive activity towards legitimate progressive and ethnic movements.

Taking all of this into account, it is clear that Kony 2012 deserves no support from the people of the world whom it seeks to rally under its banner. In the name of fighting for “human rights,” Kony 2012 is championing a rogues gallery of murdering, raping, corrupt governments and militaries that happily ally themselves with imperialist powers that have killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan in just the last decade.

Scrutinizing Invisible Children

It is also imperative that progressives seek to understand the origins of the Kony 2012 campaign, which has its roots in the organization Invisible Children. IC has been criticized for spending only 32 percent of its funds on direct services to children in Africa, with the remainder going to staff salaries, travel and transport and film production.

IC supports direct military intervention.Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army have been repeatedly accused of rape and looting, but IC continues to defend them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries,” although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission.

The journal Foreign Affairs writes that IC “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony—a brutal man, to be sure—as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil,” (referring to a fictional character in Joseph Conrad’s novella “Heart of Darkness”).

Chris Blattman, a political scientist at Yale, has written on the topic of IC’s programming: “There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. […] It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint. The savior attitude is pervasive in advocacy, and it inevitably shapes programming. Usually misconceived programming.”

Another little-known but not insignificant factor at play in the region is the recent discovery of oil in Uganda. “One of the most spectacular recent finds has been in Uganda. The reserves of the Albertine rift, which takes in the Ugandan and Congolese shores of Lake Albert …, are said to need $10 billion for development. All being well, Uganda will soon become a mid-sized producer, alongside countries such as Mexico. Foreign investment in Uganda may nearly double this year to $3 billion. The country expects to earn $2 billion a year from oil by 2015.” (The Economist, May 31, 2010)

Could it be that a desire to get access to this bonanza is partly behind imperialist interests in intervening in the region’s conflicts? To ask the question is to answer it.

Rather than lining up with a blood-soaked coalition, people of conscience need to expose Kony 2012 and its deadly agenda, which is guaranteed to sink the region even deeper into the morass of death. There are no simple answers. Any solution to the suffering of the peoples of the region must be rooted in a perspective that seriously addresses the legacy of colonialism and ongoing neo-colonialism and the resulting underdevelopment, ethnic conflict and political corruption.

Source: B.J. Murphy's Blog

Anti-Kony video draws criticism in Uganda

March 9, 2012

My response to KONY2012. - YouTube

(CBS/AP) KAMPALA, Uganda - The wildly successful viral video campaign to raise global awareness of a brutal Central Africa rebel leader is attracting criticism from Ugandans, some who said Friday that the 30-minute video misrepresents the complicated history of Africa's longest-running conflict.

The campaign by the advocacy group Invisible Children to make militia leader Joseph Kony a household name has received enormous attention on YouTube and other Internet sites this week.

But critics here said the video glosses over a complicated history that made it possible for Kony to rise to the notoriety he has today. They also lamented that the video does not inform viewers that Kony originally was waging war against Uganda's army, whose human rights record has been condemned as brutal by independent observers.

"There is no historical context. It's more like a fashion thing," said Timothy Kalyegira, a well-known social critic in Uganda who once published a newsletter called The Uganda Record.

Kony's Lord's Resistance Army began its attacks in Uganda in the 1980s, when Kony sought to overthrow the government. Since being pushed out of Uganda several years ago, the LRA has terrorized villages in Congo, the Central African Republic and South Sudan. The group takes young women into sexual slavery and forces children to commit heinous attacks.

In the years when Kony's men roamed northern Uganda, the Ugandan government was often accused of failing to do enough to capture or kill Kony, with some government investigations showing that army officers profiteered from a protracted war.

Ogenga Latigo, a politician from northern Uganda who previously led the opposition in Uganda's Parliament, said Invisible Children's perspective was too narrow to be allowed to define the popular understanding of an insurgency that displaced millions and in which thousands were killed or abducted.

Latigo said that the Ugandan government, by failing to deploy enough soldiers to prevent the LRA from abducting children over the years, had been partly responsible for the rebel group's success as a recruiter of children.

Kony is now thought to be hiding in the Central African Republic, where he fled before an aerial assault on his forested base in Congo in 2008. Ugandan officials say the LRA — with some 200 core fighters at most — is weakened and is merely trying to survive.

For some Ugandans, the timing of Invisible Children's campaign is suspicious. Nicholas Sengoba, a political analyst, said there was something "sinister" about Invisible Children's campaign.

"The issue has been around for ages," he said. "We have to ask ourselves why suddenly there is this uproar. I believe that these people have other motives that they are not putting out in the open."

Source: CBSNEWS
 
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These kinds of ads were seen in the country I am living in too...

Koni should be arrested.
 
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KONY 2012 SCAM - Obama Deploys US Special Forces to Africa (Alex Jones Infowars):

 
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