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On September 2, Prime Minister Narendra Modi introduced the new Naval Ensign (flag) in Kochi, which features the insignia of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, who built the groundwork for a modern navy. The British colonialists resolved to destroy the back of the Indian naval enterprise because Shivaji’s fleet gave his adversaries restless nights, according to the Prime Minister. PM Modi said that Inspired by Shivaji, the Indian Navy’s new flag will fly proudly in the sky and on the seas.

What is Ensign?

  • The Navy’s Ensigns are flags flown by navy vessels and formations to identify their nationality.
The brand-new Ensign Features:

  • Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj’s regal seal appears on the new Navy flag in place of the St George’s Cross.
  • The national flag is shown in the upper canton of the new ensign. The navy’s motto is overlaid on a banner with a blue octagonal form bearing the national insignia.
The seas and Shivaji

  • Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj placed a high value on sea-faring prowess, laying the groundwork for a modern naval power in the 17th century.
  • The Indian Navy has long recognised this reality, naming a training facility at Lonavla INS Shivaji and a Western Naval Command logistical and administrative centre in Mumbai INS Angre after the renowned Maratha naval leader Kanhoji Angre.
  • The inclusion of the octagonal pattern of Shivaji’s seal on the new Naval Ensign is an official mark on the Indian Naval’s umbilical links with the Maratha empire’s navy.
The extent of the naval ability of Marathas:

  • Shivaji’s strategic thinking secured establishing a strong naval presence across the Konkan coast to safeguard the Maratha empire’s maritime trade.
  • According to an Indian Navy document, “The navy under Shivaji was so strong that the Marathas could hold theirs against the British, Portuguese and Dutch. Shivaji realised the importance of having a secure coastline and protecting the western Konkan coastline from the attacks of Siddis’ fleet”.
  • Shivaji constructed ships at places like Bhivandi, Goa, and Kalyan to trade and develop a military fleet.
  • According to the Indian Express navy document, “He also built a number of sea forts and bases for repair, storage, and shelter. Shivaji fought many lengthy battles with Siddis of Janjira on the coastline. The fleet grew to reportedly 160 to 700 merchant, support, and fighting vessels. He started trading with foreigners on his own after possession of eight or nine ports in the Deccan,”
Who is Kanhoji Angre?

Kanohji Angre led the Maratha fleet and is attributed with creating a solid naval foundation that assured the Marathas were indeed a sea-faring force to be reckoned with. He is recognised for maintaining his own against the naval forces of England, Portugal, and the Netherlands.

Kanohji ensured merchants doing business for the Maratha kingdom were safe at sea. He established a base in Colaba, with further bases in Suvarndurg and Vijaydurg near Ratnagiri. Many historians consider Kanhoji, the finest naval officer in pre-modern Indian history. Prior to the Marathas, the Cholas possessed a powerful sea-faring fleet of ships that, while not exactly warships, could conduct expeditions around the Bay of Bengal.

 
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A tribute to a controversial man (lineage wise as well as with his record of thuggery) - whose name was expropriated (rightly or wrongly) to serve as the symbol of the Indian Nationalist Goondas which is so appropo - and now chosen by Modi himself for the Navy.

Some American academic (James Laine) tried to write a story about Shivaji, with expected reaction from 21st century Marhatta goondas. What was James Laine's crime? He made comments about Shivaji's legitimacy of birth which was validated by Indian researchers.



Marhatta thugs and hoodlums through this goonda-giri had tried to keep their three century-long thuggee tradition alive of raiding and pillaging peaceful villages in Bengal and in the South starting in the 16th century under Shahji, father of Shivaji. These dacoits basically raided civilian areas in hit-and-run tactics - since they could not stand up to real military cavalry forces under Ali Vardi Khan (ruler of Bengal and Orissa in Murshidabad).

Hindu nationalists in the 20th century have tried extensively to hush up and re-write histories of these expansionist Maratha thuggery on non-Maratha Hindus e.g. Bengalis and Kannadigas (and of course Muslim rulers) all across India. Maratha thugs started this in the 1600's and made a profitable living off of looting and plundering a bevy of rich Indian states - which means any place other than what was the territory of Maratha thug "empire".




Sensing a windfall, plenty of Indian third-rate movie producers have now (21st century) cashed in on Shivaji's story. Re-writing of Shivaji's life-story abounds, to cater to the Nationalists/Fascists whims to idolize Shivaji in Bollywood as a personality cult with tawdry over-dramatized story lines and strategically inserted cringeworthy song/dance numbers with trite lyrics to shame even Bhojpuri garbage that passes for "movies" in India.

I had the misfortune to watch a few minutes of this "Bajirao Mastani" thuggery-idolizing garbage...apparently it is only good as a fashion cue for womens' lehenga stylings in India (women whom I know agree). This garbage fails even as a work of fiction as it is so far removed from actual history.

Just another sad day in Modi-Land, the land of improbable stories....
 
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These dacoits basically raided civilian areas in hit-and-run tactics - since they could not stand up to real military cavalry forces under Ali Vardi Khan (ruler of Bengal and Orissa in Murshidabad).
Yeah, the Nawab apparently won the war despite ceding the whole province of Orissa to the Marathas under Raghoji Bhonsale. These hit and run tactics is what the made the numerically superior Mughal army lose when they tried to invade the Deccan.
Hindu nationalists in the 20th century have tried extensively to hush up and re-write histories of these expansionist Maratha thuggery on non-Maratha Hindus e.g. Bengalis and Kannadigas (and of course Muslim rulers) all across India. Maratha thugs started this in the 1600's and made a profitable living off of looting and plundering a bevy of rich Indian states - which means any place other than what was the territory of Maratha thug "empire".
When Mughals invade Bengal, "Muh great Mughals!". When Marathas try to liberate Bengal from oppressive Nawab rule, "Marathas are thugs, Marathas are looters". Mughal expansion is legitimate but Maratha expansion is thuggery🤣

The local people were fed up with your beloved Nawab's as well as Muslim rule.

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Alivardi had usurped the Bengal subah from the Nasiris and was not paying the due taxes to the Satara darbar.

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Bengal was also responsible for financing Muslim invasions of Maratha territories

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Sensing a windfall, plenty of Indian third-rate movie producers have now (21st century) cashed in on Shivaji's story. Re-writing of Shivaji's life-story abounds, to cater to the Nationalists/Fascists whims to idolize Shivaji in Bollywood as a personality cult with tawdry over-dramatized story lines and strategically inserted cringeworthy song/dance numbers with trite lyrics to shame even Bhojpuri garbage that passes for "movies" in India.

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English records on Chhatrapati Shivaji

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And this is how we celebrate Shivaji Jayanti. You can keep crying as much as you want😆.

The bewildered Chagatais suffer from insomnia,
Their Heart (Dilli) is rend with angst,
The Lord of Bijapur is drenched with perspiration,
The Womenfolk of the Europeans rove around with trepidation,
The entirety of Qutubshah's Golconda shudders with terror...
The Africans and their multitudes of chiefs begin a clamour.
Hearts of many Empire-Makers quake asunder,
When The Wardrums Of King Shivaraja Thunder!"

-Kaviraj Bhushan



My last reply for you on this thread. Have wasted enough of my time on you.
 

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Regardless of your propaganda and re-writing and re-imagining of history buddy - the historical records are more than certain that the only reason for Maratha "expansionism" was thuggery, looting and dacoity, especially in prosperous areas such as the Northwestern parts of the Bengal Sultanate. Simple money grabbers with no redeeming merit.

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improving the local infra, setting up education and promoting exports, architecture and the arts in their new home, setting up coinage and financial exchange facilities which is actually part of "creating an empire for better governance" (I call it becoming a "local" and adopting local customs as well).

Just a bunch of blood-sucking leeches.


Everyone knows that.

Simple looters and pillagers, that is what your Maratha "heroes" were, since they came from an unproductive and barren territory. That is the only way they could make a living and survive. With violence and threats in prosperous areas like Bengal and Karnataka by dint of the sword, that too applied only to unarmed civilians.

Trying to collect historical honor now - from that despicable activity, is the farthest thing from the truth.

I have no respect for thieves, rapists, thugs and looters. No one does, except your "shivaji-idolater" lot.

Now you don't have the energy and are running away from a fight, as is the wont of your lot....

Keep pushing your garbage propaganda - even Bengali Hindus know who Shivaji's lot were.....
 
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A tribute to a controversial man (lineage wise as well as with his record of thuggery) - whose name was expropriated (rightly or wrongly) to serve as the symbol of the Indian Nationalist Goondas which is so appropo - and now chosen by Modi himself for the Navy.

Some American academic (James Laine) tried to write a story about Shivaji, with expected reaction from 21st century Marhatta goondas. What was James Laine's crime? He made comments about Shivaji's legitimacy of birth which was validated by Indian researchers.



Marhatta thugs and hoodlums through this goonda-giri had tried to keep their three century-long thuggee tradition alive of raiding and pillaging peaceful villages in Bengal and in the South starting in the 16th century under Shahji, father of Shivaji. These dacoits basically raided civilian areas in hit-and-run tactics - since they could not stand up to real military cavalry forces under Ali Vardi Khan (ruler of Bengal and Orissa in Murshidabad).

Hindu nationalists in the 20th century have tried extensively to hush up and re-write histories of these expansionist Maratha thuggery on non-Maratha Hindus e.g. Bengalis and Kannadigas (and of course Muslim rulers) all across India. Maratha thugs started this in the 1600's and made a profitable living off of looting and plundering a bevy of rich Indian states - which means any place other than what was the territory of Maratha thug "empire".




Sensing a windfall, plenty of Indian third-rate movie producers have now (21st century) cashed in on Shivaji's story. Re-writing of Shivaji's life-story abounds, to cater to the Nationalists/Fascists whims to idolize Shivaji in Bollywood as a personality cult with tawdry over-dramatized story lines and strategically inserted cringeworthy song/dance numbers with trite lyrics to shame even Bhojpuri garbage that passes for "movies" in India.

I had the misfortune to watch a few minutes of this "Bajirao Mastani" thuggery-idolizing garbage...apparently it is only good as a fashion cue for womens' lehenga stylings in India (women whom I know agree). This garbage fails even as a work of fiction as it is so far removed from actual history.

Just another sad day in Modi-Land, the land of improbable stories....

Maratha was never a real empire.
A mere confederate of tribal rulers.

Fact is the Marathas tried as best as they could to destroy the last high civillization in the subcontinent, the Mughal Empire, before the arrival of brits.

Of course its a fact too hard too for the hindutva lot, so they basically rewrite the history. The only crime of Mughals was their religion, otherwise Aurangzeb, which they hate with passion, was probably the most magnificent emperor in the history of the Subcontinent.

That Marathas killed hundreds of thousands of hindus in Bengal alone is of course overlooked.
 
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Maratha was never a real empire.
A mere confederate of tribal rulers.

Fact is the Marathas tried as best as they could to destroy the last high civillization in the subcontinent, the Mughal Empire, before the arrival of brits.

Of course its a fact too hard too for the hindutva lot, so they basically rewrite the history. The only crime of Mughals was their religion, otherwise Aurangzeb, which they hate with passion, was probably the most magnificent emperor in the history of the Subcontinent.

That Marathas killed hundreds of thousands of hindus in Bengal alone is of course overlooked.

This is the mentality of these "shivaji-idolator" thugs - they glorify thuggery and looting and rape. Why work hard for a living when you can loot things from innocent unarmed people.

Look at the mentality even today, those three vices (thuggery and looting and rape) are still the hallmark of today's Hindutva nationalists. Maybe that should go on their changed military ensigns, not just symbols.

This is enshrined in their literature, their operating principles (minaret climbing like monkeys) and frequent calls to violence against their own minority Muslims, on zero provocation.

Of course they can't face an equal enemy and run away when faced with the prospect of an equal fight. Cowards.

Their proven tactic is to descend in numbers on a single individual and make an example of it.
 
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This is the mentality of these "shivaji-idolator" thugs - they glorify thuggery and looting and rape. Why work hard for a living when you can loot things from innocent unarmed people.

Look at the mentality even today, those three vices (thuggery and looting and rape) are still the hallmark of today's Hindutva nationalists. Maybe that should go on their changed military ensigns, not just symbols.

This is enshrined in their literature, their operating principles (minaret climbing like monkeys) and frequent calls to violence against their own minority Muslims, on zero provocation.

Of course they can't face an equal enemy and run away when faced with the prospect of an equal fight. Cowards.

Their proven tactic is to descend in numbers on a single individual and make an example of it.

Marathas won ground when Mughal Empire was in decline after Aurangzebs death. They were also defeated by Durrani, British and stalemated by Tipu Sultan.

When you think about it, the Hindutva has really choosen a pathetic confederacy to idolize. But i get it, maybe the Gupta Empire is too far back in history. The only states who were on par or surpassed Gupta Empire was really Dehli Sultanate, Mughals and British, and neither of them was Hindu.
 
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Marathas were first Indian rulers to recognize the threat posed from European Navies and so despite their main enemies were land based Deccan Sultanates and Later on Mughals, they still invested heavily in navy and coastal forts. Their remnants still exist all over western konkan coast of Maharashtra. https://30stades.com/2022/05/01/mah...of-kingdoms-on-indias-west-coast-architecture

All built and gained from proceeds of looting and pillaging campaigns and no more important than a fleet of small pirate boats. Maratha territory itself was not a wealthy agricultural region by any means, which was the main indicator of wealth and economy in those days. Hence the need for looting faraway places which were much more agriculturally and economically prosperous, such as Bengal.

What Hindutvas should do is study the Mughal Navy under Bengal Sultanate which was way larger than Shivaji's naval force which was nothing more than a bunch of small coastal pirate ships.

None of the kingdoms or empires in North or South India had a BLUE WATER NAVY.

Cholas, Chalukyas or Marathas had naval fleets but these cannot be defined as Blue water navy but can be compared to COAST GUARD or MERCHANT NAVY roles.

Yes all the Indian kingdoms of yore had some sort of Merchant Naval Fleet which traded with Arabia, Iran, Eastern Africa, Zanzibar, Malay Peninsula, Vietnam , Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Java and other Islands of Indonesia.

Cholas and Chalukyas attacked, interfered militarily (and opportunistically) in Malay Peninsula, Java, Srilanka, Maldives, Muscat etc. but that does not make these navies BLUE WATER NAVIES.

Mughals had a Merchant Fleet which carried on Trade and carried Passengers to HAJ from port of SURAT and a medium sized cannon-armed fleet to protect these merchant vessel from Pirates.

The Maratha navy was nothing more than a pirate fleet as recalled by later historians with the minor character of SAMBHAJI an Indian pirate.

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The first Mughal called Babur founded the Mughal dynasty after the First Battle of Panipat in 1526. His age was nearly 42 years then. He died 4 years later in 1530. He didn’t have enough time to expand the empire up to the seas within 4 years.

The life of Humayun had many ups and downs. Though Humayun was the successor of Babur his brothers wanted to capture for themselves. Internal conflicts with his half-brother Kamran Mirza and the attack from Sher Shah Suri forced him to flee to Persia. Sher Shah’s untimely death and help of the Persian ruler helped Humayun to regain his throne after 15 years. When he regained his throne, he was 45 years old and he died just some months later. He didn’t get time to expand his territories to the seas.

When Humayun died, Akbar was the Viceroy of the provinces of Hindal and Ghazni. After Humayun’s death, Akbar was declared the emperor by his loyal Bairam Khan. Later, when Akbar wanted to reclaim Punjab from Sikandar Shah Suri, Hemu declared himself as the independent Hindu emperor and claimed Delhi. After the shocking defeat of Hemu in the Second Battle of Panipat, Akbar conquered Delhi and from then, started expanding his empire.

This is Akbar’s empire during the time of his death:-

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The only coastal regions the Mughal empire had during this time were the coastal regions of Gujarat on West and coastal regions of Bengal. The region which lies on the Bengal map is covered by the Sundari forests of Bengal, which is a great hurdle in creating a port. So, even though a great coastline of Bengal came under Mughal Empire, only some portion of the coastline was suitable for making port (This was of course Chittagong which supplied ships to both Ottoman and British navies).

Since ancient period, Bengal had a glorious tradition of boat and ship building. Traditional ship and wooden boat were made in Chittagong. The Moroccan traveler ibn batuta who came to Bengal in the 14th century saw numerous boats in the river carrying men and merchandise and testified to the existence of gigantic fleet of war-boats. According to the European Traveler Caesar Frederick, Chittagong was the center of building ocean-going vessels in the mid 15th century. In the 17th century, the ship building institutions of Chittagong are reported to have built a complete fleet of war-boats for the Uthmaniyah (Ottoman- Osmanlı padişahları) Sultan of Turkey. During the Mughal period, Bengal is said to have taken the lead in building ships and boats.

Fleet built for Ottoman navy in Chittagong bay, which has been a shipbuilding center of excellence since time immemorial.

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Mughal-Arakanese battle on the banks of the Karnaphuli River in 1666 - near Chittagong port.

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The Mughal Empire didn’t have direct control over these coastal regions. Often, the local rulers were allied under Akbar’s dominance. These ports were under the control of these rulers (such as the Bengal Sultanate) which the Mughals could use if needed.

This is the map which compares the empire established by Akbar and the empire extended by his successors:-

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Jehangir was the fourth Mughal. There are numerous accounts on Jehangir. Some historians say that Jehangir was an able administrator who had settled many disputes started by his father and had formed a co-alliance with other rulers who accepted the Mughal supremacy when awarded with favorable posts in the Mughal courts. Some historians say that Jehangir was a man who didn’t give much attention towards his empire. He used to spend his time on drinks, luxury and romance. It was his consort Nur Jahan who controlled all the affairs of the empire.

Shah Jehan and Aurangzeb expanded their empire and a larger coastline came under their empire. However, these coastlines weren’t totally under the control of the Mughal Empire. These were directly under the local rulers who had alliances with the Mughals (such as Ilyas Shahi dynasty - i.e. the Bengal Sultanate).

The Mughals did have a substantial navy - unlike Shivaji's fleet of pirate boats. It started when Gujarat and Bengal came under the empire of Akbar. The Mughal Navy was founded by Akbar and he used the ports of Gujarat and Bengal for his navy.

The most common ship of the Mughal navy was the “Ghurab” which was a galley.


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The Ghurabs were mainly shallow draft war boats which also carried cannons. Other than Ghurab, there were:-
  1. Bachari, designed on the structure of a fishing trawler.
  2. Jung, designed on the features of a merchant ship.
  3. Balam, designed based on a cargo-carrier.
The above ships were based on designs of civilian ships. Apart from these ships, the Mughals had Jalba or Jalliya, which were much like galliots from the Mediterranean Sea. Other than these, Akbar introduced the galley called kosa - which were large coastal armed ships popular in Bengal. Then there was Khelnas which were more like scout boats used for carrying messages and small troops.

There were armed riverine fleets which the Mughal used to invade Dhaka against the Ilyas Shahi dynasty.

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Mughals believed in building monuments rather than expanding their navy. A navy needs money, experienced sailors and management. Mughals did not commit to invest in manpower and skillful administration to control or maintain a navy from Delhi. The later Mughal emperor like Jehangir and Shah Jahan considered it easier and feasible to use the naval facilities of their coastal friends rather than expanding and developing their own navy.

Although not an effective blue water navy, brown water actions by the Mughal forces were important, and brown water operations are often forgotten in Western accounts for whom naval warfare is about Hornblower-type events. [1]

The Mughal Empire was a land empire, so ships were much less important than for the maritime empires of Portugal, Spain or Britain. Mughal ships lacked the firepower of Western vessels, so European vessels dominated the seas of South Asia.

In 1658, Aurangzeb ascended the Mughal throne at Delhi. Mir Jumla was made governor of Bengal. He seems to have possessed a significant navy, made up of boats procured from remote places in Bengal. In 1661-62, Mir Jumla used his fleet also to conquer Assam.

Aurangzeb built up his navy to compete with vessels of the Portuguese (with whom he formed an alliance) and those of Arakan whom the Mughals fought. Mughals sailed up the river and made an attack also by land, which led eventually to the sinking off several Arakanese ships by gun-fire or ramming, the capturing of the Arakanese fleet with 132 war-vessels, with guns, armaments and elephants and the conquest of Chatgaon (Chittagong) in 1666.

  1. Black J (2009) Naval Power- History of Warfare at Sea from 1500, ISBN 978-0230202801
  2. More J B P Bengal Navy and the First Anglo-Mughal Confrontation in the Age of Globalisation,
  3. Solvyns, Balthazar (2001). Hardgrave Jr., Robert L. (ed.). Boats of Bengal: Eighteenth Century Portraits of Balthazar Solvyns. New Delhi: Manohar. ISBN 9788173043581.
 
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You have to make mughals as daddies once you’re converted
I actually feel pity for these folks man. The poor folks think they ruled over India, until reality hit them when their fellow Muslims tried to genocide them and they remembered us. Now, since its been some time, their back to baring their fangs like how they did when they demanded for a separate country. Have to admit, we are dealing with really cunning and conniving people on both sides of the border whom we should never trust.
The other guy is saying that Marathas gained ground when Mughals were in decline, when in actuality the Mughals invaded the Deccan when they were at their peak under Aurangzeb but then the cowards had to go back with tails between their legs. And that Bilal guy is completely fine with Mughals invading Maratha territories first but when Marathas do the same in return, he starts howling.
The Mughals started the war by trying to invade Deccan, the Marathas ended it.

Under the rule of Maratha Empire's Shindeshahi House, the Mughal family had to undergo fasting because Marathas kept no food for the Mughal Badshah

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Once a random Maratha Sardar tossed a handful of coins on the Mughal Darbar floor, and all of the Mughal Badshah's courtiers scrambled on the floor in a frenzy to grab them.

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Mughals themselves lived in a slum within Red Fort premises known as "Salatin Quarters". They were used to this type of lifestyle since 1680-1707 CE Mughal-Maratha Wars after Marathas had sealed off the Mughal Camps & destroyed them.

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A wealthy mental asylum within the Red Fort

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Condition of the Mughals after trying to subdue the Marathas

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The terror of Marathas in 18th century

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Portugese called Marathas as common enemies to all European nations

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And yet one of the guy has the audacity to call them tribal leaders lol.

Marathas were first Indian rulers to recognize the threat posed from European Navies and so despite their main enemies were land based Deccan Sultanates and Later on Mughals, they still invested heavily in navy and coastal forts. Their remnants still exist all over western konkan coast of Maharashtra. https://30stades.com/2022/05/01/mah...of-kingdoms-on-indias-west-coast-architecture
Thanks for sharing this. Will post a few pictures of Maratha sea forts which the Nawab didn't even have the foresight of. These forts were used to battle European powers like the Portugese and the British. No wonder, the Europeans gained entry into India through Bengal and not through the Western coast.

Murud-Janjira

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Sindhudurg

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Suvarnadurg

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Kolaba

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Arnala

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Marathas were first Indian rulers to recognize the threat posed from European Navies and so despite their main enemies were land based Deccan Sultanates and Later on Mughals, they still invested heavily in navy and coastal forts. Their remnants still exist all over western konkan coast of Maharashtra. https://30stades.com/2022/05/01/mah...of-kingdoms-on-indias-west-coast-architecture
They were far from the first.

Cholas, Chalukyas or Marathas had naval fleets but these cannot be defined as Blue water navy but can be compared to COAST GUARD or MERCHANT NAVY roles.

Yes all the Indian kingdoms of yore had some sort of Merchant Naval Fleet which traded with Arabia, Iran, Eastern Africa, Zanzibar, Malay Peninsula, Vietnam , Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Java and other Islands of Indonesia.

Cholas and Chalukyas attacked, interfered militarily (and opportunistically) in Malay Peninsula, Java, Srilanka, Maldives, Muscat etc. but that does not make these navies BLUE WATER NAVIES.
Incorrect.

No point commenting on these without having done your homework.
 
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You have to make mughals as daddies once you’re converted
Mughals like their predecessors Delhi Sultanate, ran perfect scam on subcontinent Muslims convincing them of their lower status in societal hierarchy

For all the Islamist crap these empires ruling class bleated, no local subcontinent Muslims were allowed anywhere near the ruling class. Unless one was Malik kafur and willing to gape for their overlords

Muslim nobility class saw through this and often revolted against Delhi Sultanate or Mughals. Being local rulers themselves they were not gullible or dimwitted. Same with Afghans, you will never see a single Afghan ever being shamelessly slavish about Delhi Sultanate or Mughals. Afghans with direct interactions with Central Asians knew them well.

On pdf you see descendants of lowest segments of subcontinent Muslims. For them their entire self-worth was measured in level of sycophancy they exhibited to their Central Asian overlords
 
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