Kkkkkriti and Rahul's brilliant plan against Pakistan

[Certain Somebody]

Article is more like a wishful thinking than an honest assessment. WoT had it's drawback and Pakistan end up facing the blowback. While Indian's were progress peacefully, Pakistan was in a state of war. Pakistan lost almost a decade in this mess. Now things are turning around. There is catching up to do, but unlike Pakistan, India has to carry lot more population burden to move forward.

Internal division, strategic strangulation, water and all such assumptions are just wishful thinking.

Do you think that things really are turning around? Do you think it's possible, under this government? :/

 

[Max]

There are no permanent friends, only permanent interests.

Thus, the CPEC is a project of the Chinese for the Chinese and by the Chinese. Their grand design is to establish a naval base at Gwadar (which has already been leased out by Pakistan to the Chinese for 40 long years!) to dominate the Strait of Hormuz and the IOR. Pakisan is just a bit player in this CPEC project which is primarily being built for PLAAN's logistics support for its future naval base.

It's no rocket science to figure out why the US is supporting the Indo-Iran-Afghan initiative in Chabahar as it will be a counter to Chinese attempt to dominate the IOR and the Strait of Hormuz from Gwadar.

lol at ur wet dreams bharti, China is largest inverstor in iran and no. 1 oil importer as well , they just signed agreement to raise thier trade volume to $600 billion.. you think they will act against china's interests for bharti 300 million.? Keep deluding urself.

India may do all that's written in the OP to defeat Pakistan economically but it won't work. Why? Because according to 'experts' in Pakistan like Abidi and his ilk, 'rivers of gold' will flow into Pakistan once the CPEC is up and running! They also mention that Pakistan will be the next super power by 2020 due to the CPEC!

The only thing that's up and running are grand delusions!

look who is talking, should i start with ur joker media whom ur bhangi kind themselve call presstitutes..

 

[Maira La]

This man was YOUR ancestor, don't forget. Indians can only follow him, but you guys can be modern versions of him. ; )

 

[A$HU]

This man was YOUR ancestor, don't forget. Indians can only follow him, but you guys can be modern versions of him. ; )

Hahaha. This cracked me up.

 

[Manidabest]

No wonder Indian plan is very innovative to contain Pak, but as with any plans, IMHO, it has the potential to face the following drawbacks in field applications:

• Meteoric rise of China: not only defense sector, but also in economic front all out efforts are put into action. CPEC may be the only beginning of that Chinese plan of "don't give fish, but show how to fish" vis-a-vis Pak. As for the defense, it's quite obvious that Chinese plans and actions are to confine all of India's energy in "planning" how to undermine Pak.
• Exponential rise of the Taliban in Afganistan: Mafia folks are surely in a disadvantageous situation. With the US patience hitting rock bottom with the warring parties (whose won't?), relevant folks need to brace themselves for "interesting times" ahead.
• Ultimate chaos in the ME: It's quite obvious that a tectonic plate shift is occurring in that region to be reshaped and remodeled again. Current leadership are there to go. In Turkish there's a saying - Yanlish Hesaplar Ba'dat-tan Doner (Wrong calculations return from Baghdad).
• Reassertion of the Muslims in Turkey: To starve Pak of all "western" military gadgets might be little tougher with the availability of Turkish equipment to Pak under the banner, "Tek Millet Iki Devlet (one nation two states)". PDF enthusiasts are lately very busy with staffs called ATAK or ADA. InshaAllah many more will be in the pipeline to keep them busy for the foreseeable future.
• Chinese water wars on India: Chinese appear to be as clever as Indians in diverting the sources of the major rivers in India to their directions. Kendine Dushen Aa'lamaz - He who stumbles by himself can't cry.

Many points are facts ....

 

[Maira La]

Hahaha. This cracked me up.

If I went by your revisionist narrative and said he was a little black Hindu from the Ganges/Central/South Indian peninsula, maybe you wouldn't have such a good laugh. So I'm happy to help.

 

[Manidabest]

The article is written by young students that, at best, reflects their frustrations to deal with Pakistan. I am sure the Indian govt. is much more mature and in control to stoop to this level. At the same time the Defense Minister gave an statement in Singapore that window of goodwill that Modi opened for Pakistan is closing for the lack of response from Pakistan.

Let the window close ...lets c wat bloody indian will do ... ohh your monkey Kulbushan is with us

they are emotional and bit delusional CPEC is not the 1st or last project in the world
1) Panama canal was built in early 1900s a 70 km (appx) project with 350 mill back then which equals to 85 Bill dollars now and panama is still a banana republic after 90 yrs another example is suez canal
2) To exploit any opportunity u need skilled manpower which even in india we face shortage and have asked germany (they got best training programmes) to start training centers in india
3) Most of the investment which is coming in CPEC will be absorbed by chinese companies and they are also getting commitment by Pak Govt of guaranteed returns upto 18% ROI in dollars
4) In next 5 yrs or so much of resources in india and pakistan will be spent on basic needs like water etc (u can ignore but problem is coming at rapid rate)
5) As per pakistani media reports Govt of pakistan is printing money on a crazy scale and they are hiding(lieng is a harsh word) the facts and there debt servicing will be out of control after 2017-18 which will leave none or little scope for reforms



If only policies were made on brotherhood and emotions be its china or turkey at the end of a day only thing that will reflect the policy will be what pakistan brings on the table for them

welll India is diverting our waters and China is diverting yours ...
Cpec is important because it will not only cater China but Chinese influenced Central Asian traffic
even all the profit will be absorbed by chinese the infrastructure will remain in pakistan now they wont take all the road network back to China
...

 

[Genghis khan1]

Do you think that things really are turning around? Do you think it's possible, under this government? :/

I mean overall security situation, CPEC, energy crisis. things have started to move in right direction. Given it all due to military danda. Still Pakistan biggest problem was internal security that was scaring away investors, which has dramatically improved.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

really, China proposed a 'D' variant for the PAF ?

some more details please.

lol J10 Pakistani variant (western avionics and other stuff ) so I give this name , like we can call Pakistani J10 as J10D(Pakistani variant ).
So its like J10 A , B , C for china or other world and J10 D for Pakistan.

 

[TMA]

currently india is winning although raheel sharif has given stiff resistance to the indian efforts in destabilizing pak. water will be a major issue in near future and the indian backed politicians proudly claim" ham nay kalabagh dam ka mamla hamesha k liay dafna dia hay" afghanistan govt and media is fully in their control. the afghan military is being trained by the india in india so definitely they will be used against pak. they have their agents in all the major political parties in pak .
the two good things that happened with pak are 1. raheel sharif ( who is about to retire this year) 2. CPEC which is pain in a** of india, iran, america and the arab states.

Water is more important than CPEC.

 

[livingdead]

I thought rahul gandhi has some evil plans... what a clickbait thread... and who the hell are swarajyamag?

 

[raj76]

Let the window close ...lets c wat bloody indian will do ... ohh your monkey Kulbushan is with us



welll India is diverting our waters and China is diverting yours ...
Cpec is important because it will not only cater China but Chinese influenced Central Asian traffic
even all the profit will be absorbed by chinese the infrastructure will remain in pakistan now they wont take all the road network back to China
...

lol chinese dams on brahamputra aint that bigger a threat to northeast cause that part of world gets highest rainfall in world (u can googlee chirapunji ) and it is feeded by various tributiries before it reaches india (its all mountain area)
as far as cpec is concerned i am not saying it wont benefit pakistan all i am saying is that u r expecting impossible out of it and 46 billion $ are scattered in 15 yrs

 

[Manidabest]

lol chinese dams on brahamputra aint that bigger a threat to northeast cause that part of world gets highest rainfall in world (u can googlee chirapunji ) and it is feeded by various tributiries before it reaches india (its all mountain area)
as far as cpec is concerned i am not saying it wont benefit pakistan all i am saying is that u r expecting impossible out of it and 46 billion $ are scattered in 15 yrs

i am not saying that it is a winning situation for the Pakistan but it is just the start ... and definitely a thorn in indian eyes i will always support anything againt india ...

 

[shah1398]

There is quite a difference between whats on paper and whats on ground. Plz do consider following points too.

(a) CPEC is not limited to China only, rather many more players are bound to come as the strategic location of Gwader is totally irresistible.

(b) While waters wars and water shortage with regards to Pakistan are being pointed out again and again but same guys fail to look inwards towards how water crises have already taking toll on India itself as either quite a many areas are drought hit or the water scarcity is so that special trains had to be dispatch to augment the populace. While in Pakistan even with lots of water still in process of being tapped, we do not face that much scarcity which is bound to doom us. Of course we see figures like 2025 Pakistan as drought hit but these figures are being prolonged with all these small and big projects. Also Kalabagh Dam is not the end and there are lots of other potential being tapped.

(c) With regards to economy firstly we aint racing with anyone but if had survived ALHUMDULILLAH with the worse militancy and internal destabilization since 2001, now with improved law and order situation we are bound to rise again IN SHA ALLAH. Even say if current PML (N) govt aint doing that well but still they are moving us ahead rather than back rolling.

(d) One of the important aspects of the turmoil in the ME is that now investors esp the Pakistani investors who have invested in ME are looking for new avenues and Pakistan is offering quite good options to them and the first sector to receive the investment was Real Estate and the first stop was Karachi. This is just the beginning.

(e) Like @HAKIKAT pointed out that Turkey always stands by side of Pakistan and with passage of time the bond between the two is getting more and more stronger. The same Turkey is helping us building influence in Central Asia and the same is evident with Pakistan's growing ties with Central Asian countries.

(d) One way or the other Chahbahar may not benefit India that much as is would benefit us as the same inroads financed and constructed by India would be used by Pakistan to access Central Asian countries in one way or the other.

(e) US had always been a very untrustworthy ally of Pakistan but our engagement with them would never be curtailed come what may. At the same time we are warming up with Russia but of course not at the cost of India.

(f) Kashmir did see quite a decline in violence but the recent uptake can not be ignored. The fact is that this uptake is more indigenous one with more locals joining in and even local population protecting them in quite many instance and this is bound to expand one way or the other as now with cross border help at minimum levels, locals are themselves taking arms.

Apparently we are facing problems here but these are the end one which we have been facing esp since 2001. In short the doom and gloom picture presented by the authors is lacking on ground realities and circling more around IFs and Buts. Its not Pakistan of 2001 but here we are seeing a new Pakistan rising from ashes.

 

[WAJsal]

Sorry guys and @Winchester , can't allow anti-Pakistan BS to be discussed here on PDF. Plus it is quite clear what's bound to happen in this thread...
These folks should know...
"There is no power on Earth that can undo Pakistan." -Muhammad Ali Jinnah

It's no rocket science to figure out why the US is supporting the Indo-Iran-Afghan initiative in Chabahar as it will be a counter to Chinese attempt to dominate the IOR and the Strait of Hormuz from Gwadar.

I am curious as to when exactly Chabahar will be fully operational and will start countering Chinese here in Gwadar? maybe in the next 8-10 years. And is it not passing through Afghanistan too?

How much of what is suggested is not already happening ?

Was thinking the same thing. AS times evolve we are moving towards new methods of countering one another. Nothing good will come out of it...