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This is a pointless chatter, you draw from your own mind and insert lines that I never wrote, something that I'm unable to cure you from... sadly.

You are replying to an illusion, this man supporting the polical class in Iraq, the one that questions Karbala's and Najafs arabic heritage, the one you think you are addressing with your replies... is not there.

As such, I wish you and your illusionary friend a good day, and a happy ramadan.

So now you don't disagree with what I wrote all while you and I know very well what agenda you tried to create in this thread and others that have nothing to do with KSA or any other Arab countries for that matter?

To make it short, your likes (Iranian or not, I don't really care by now, I have got sufficient exposure of your writings to draw my own conclusions as already written) blame Arab regimes ruling Sunni Arab nations for all your own miseries, generalize all Arabs in Arab country x or y as a consequence, somehow ignore/"forget" everything that binds us as an Arab people (practically everything that you can think about) and allow yourself to serve foreign agendas at the expense of your own brethren whether they are located in Iraq or other Arab countries. I have a hard time dealing with such people, luckily I rarely encounter them.

While you and the entire world knows that the two biggest cancers in Iraq since 2003 (in terms of harmful outside influence) have been the US and Iran, you somehow prefer to invent some imaginary fairytales of Arabs being the root of all of your problems even though the same Arabs where the greatest helpers of Iraq during the sanctions/isolation, even though the same Arabs supported Iraq at its time of need (Iraq-Iran war) even though Saddam was a pain in the *** for every regime around him, even to the extent of him having horrible ties with Hafiz al-Assad despite a shared political ideology (identical more or less).

A few reminders.

During every successful era of Iraq where peace, stability (relative) and progress occured, whether it be the monarchy or pre-Saddam republican rule, all those periods had the same common dominator. Close ties to neighboring Arab states. Whenever the opposite occurred, Iraq has only faced trouble, misery, wars etc. Similarly before the creation of the modern states (most recently the Abbasid era). In-pre Islamic times it was the exact same thing, Iraq flourished under successive pre-Islamic Semitic civilizations whether Arab or non-Arab. All periods where what is modern-day Iraq had close ties (for ancient standards) with modern-day Arab geographies.

And lastly, the imaginary "Gulf" (if you knew just a little bit about the region that you supposedly live in - you would know that KSA is not a "Gulf country" and that there really is no such a thing, what you are looking for is Eastern Arabia, which includes Southern Iraq and ends in Northern Oman and culturally has close ties to Southern coastal Iran, not only the Arab areas of Southern Iran) politically either nowadays or some absurd claims of the Gulf being the reason why Syria, after 4 decades of incompetent Al-Assad regime rule is what it is (a healthy fundament would never have decayed that much despite internal disagreements) or why Iraq is as it is as of 2020, is only something that a truly brainwashed person can say. Straight out of the Iranian Mullah regime handbook.

Eid Mubarak to you too my Iranian friend, if you celebrate it.

What I envision is irrelevant, Iraq is destroyed and so is Syria and Libya, the rest is not in a bright shape either.

The only option remaining is to salvage and cling to what remains of our Identity and hope for the winds of change.

Destroyed because of people whom you support. Populists and people who allowed differences between brethren to turn into bloodshed. People who allowed foreign entities to take advantage of their nations and peoples. People who prostituted themselves to outsiders. People who were cheering when outsiders were destroying their nation.

Traitorous, murderous and corrupt trash like that which your likes shamelessly support.


What culture are you even talking about? You have sold yourself out to the point where you accept foreigners (historical enemies moreso) to dictate everything that you do. If this continues, one day you will need their permission to go to the bathroom.:lol:

Yes, China will save you. China has closer political/economic relations to KSA than any other nation in the Middle East/Arab world. Go figure. China nor USA will change anything before people themselves do not change (your likes). They are only in it for their own benefits, not much different to the Iranian regime in Iraq or Turkey in Libya, yet we will still have braindead Arab sellouts with your mentality that enables this negative foreign meddling and internal divisions.

I wrote 1000's of times, that you can throw all the Arab regimes/leaders in the dustbin of history tomorrow morning, if the necessary goals (economic, political, military etc.) unity in the Arab world emerges for the benefit of everyone involved as only joint pan-Arab cooperation can solve our problems and that of the Arab world permanently. Trying another solution is wasting ones times. It will not succeed like it has been proven time and time again. Just like something as simple as the separation (political) between Gaza and West Bank is not helping anything, rather the contrary, it weakened the Palestinian cause but that is stating the obvious.
 
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What I envision is irrelevant, Iraq is destroyed and so is Syria and Libya, the rest is not in a bright shape either.

The only option remaining is to salvage and cling to what remains of our Identity and hope for the winds of change.

My posts on the gulf are reactionary, with the exception of Iraq and the levant, I,m far more interested in the US-China encounter, I see it having more bearing on our fate than anything that may happen in the peninsula.

It is relevant, if you make criticisms you should make clear what you want changed/fixed. So we can understand where you're coming from. I don't believe in being hopeless, with the right, determined leadership these issues can be tackled.

Anyhow if the US-China arena interests you, hope you enjoy it. I don't think it will change much in our region though.
 
What do you envision for the region? What do you want the region to look like?



You told me earlier that the Iraqi protesters are paid stooges, now you say the Iraqi gov't is a US and Iranian controlled one. You are confusing us. So you agree Iran plays negative role in Iraq? We are all against US dominance of ME since day one. But you think it's US only interfering in your country? What about Iran?

Btw, why are you posting against Saudis so much? Now is not the right time to address Palestinian issue. Palestinians need to remain there and remain steadfast until opportunity presents itself to achieve independence. These opportunities come and go, just like Israeli's took advantage of WW1-WW2 period to establish their state. We will have such opportunities to retrieve Palestine but it is not now. So what are you expecting Saudi's to do? Magic?



Lol, you saw that comment too? I was very confused at this as Arab people are criticized for having little tolerance for LGBT community. I don't know if he is a troll or just a confused person.

He is all over the place. His avatar is of Sargon of Akkad an ancient Semitic ruler of Mesopotamia. Akkadians were an Eastern Semitic people who migrated from Arabia into what is modern-day Iraq not much longer after the appearance of Sumer later creating a fusion that gave rise to Babylonia.

He is a shameless individual. The same brave Iraqi Shia Arab (their sect does not matter but it must be highlighted in case people want to make this a sectarian issue when it is not) youth were protesting against everything that he supposedly is against (catastrophic Iranian Mullah regime interference, US interference, against the political system that the US and Iran created/Iraqi political Shia elite, mainly from the Dawa party that remain in power) have kept alive to this day, yet he was shamelessly lying and blabbering about some kind of conspiracy with Arab and US involvement, lol.:lol: Ignoring the 1000 + deaths as if it was nothing. Yet 10 years later and 100 casualties later in Bahrain, his likes are still screaming about some imaginary Shia genocide in Bahrain and I don't know what.

Nonsense/lies of Baghdad turning into the Arab transgender/LBGT capital of the Arab world without Iran. What is that troll/false-flagger even blabbering about? His Iranian Mullah regime masters perform transgender operations lol officially, while everyone even remotely familiar with Iraq knows that most parents don't even know what a transgender is and that they don't accept it even remotely.

He is posting some 1 video of some irrelevant person out of 30 + million people (completely rarity) while just on PDF I could find more such people within the few Iraqi users on PDF to date with hostile views of Palestinians because your biggest crime is to like Saddam Hussein (overall) for what he did for Palestine, so in their moronic eyes you apparently supported all the bad that Saddam did in Iraq. Brilliant logic.

He is most likely a follower of the likes of Abu Ali Al-Shaibani.:lol: Google that beauty.


It is relevant, if you make criticisms you should make clear what you want changed/fixed. So we can understand where you're coming from. I don't believe in being hopeless, with the right, determined leadership these issues can be tackled.

Anyhow if the US-China arena interests you, hope you enjoy it. I don't think it will change much in our region though.

Let me help you.

Sunni Arabs (whether Iraqi Sunni Arabs or other Arabs) and Iraqi Shia Arabs and Arab Shias that refuse to be Iranian Mullah regime slaves/proxies = bad.

Braindead Arab sellouts (regardless of sect) that do not work towards mutually beneficial Arab cooperation for the greater good = great.

Yet he "wonders" and is delusional about the state of Iraq, Syria, Libya etc. while he shamefully tries to defend terrorists aligned to the Mullah regime/Iraqi incompetent political system, that gunned down well over 1000 Iraqis (mainly Shias) as cattle. Or proxies, political parties that do not work for the interests of Iraq first and foremost but their own pockets and that of a foreign hostile entity.

Zero criticism of well-known Iraqi traitors (Hadi al-Ameri), instead he is blabbering about some imaginary "Gulf", "evil Arabs" and what not.

We have monkeys in the Iraqi political system that decide between life and death who have 100's of Iraqi patriots blood's on their hands. Hadi al-Ameri used to personally torture Iraqi POV's while in Iran, Shias and non-Shias alike, for the sole crime of the fighting for their own country. With such people around, what can we expect?

It is no different in Syria and Libya. We have regimes (Al-Assad) willing to burn their country to stay in power for a few more years. Or we have Libyan traitors on both sides who appeared out of nowhere (from abroad) in 2011 and are now destroying Libya with outside help.

When confronted he has no answer.
 
You never heard of a saudi hating palestine ? You,re not saudi then.

Here :


I suppose burning must be a form of hatred.

في النهاية الحديث الفارغ عن الوحدة لا يعنيني كثيرا, انا معني بالافعال لا بالاقوال و الخليج سبب اساس في خراب العراق و سوريا و غيرها.
Well if you are Iraqi or Lebanese or even Jordanian you will know why the Palestinians are hated by Arabs
 
Well if you are Iraqi or Lebanese or even Jordanian you will know why the Palestinians are hated by Arabs

Palestinians are not hated in Mauritania. Not hated in Morocco. Not hated in Algeria. Not hated in Tunisia. Not hated in Libya. Not hated in Egypt. Not hated in Yemen. Not hated in Oman. Not hated in UAE. Not hated in Qatar. Not hated in KSA. Not hated in Bahrain. Not hated in Kuwait (maybe by a tiny minority of braindead nationalists who blame the entire Palestinian nation for what PLO branches in Kuwait did after Saddam's invasion of Kuwait), not hated in Iraq (by sane people that is), nor Syria nor Jordan or Lebanon.

Those are ridiculous claims. The only thing that is shameful here is how Lebanese Christians and Shias have treated Palestinians in Lebanon in recent years. But Lebanese are generally known for such behaviors (of course not all), we just need to look at the Syrian refugee situation in Lebanon. That entire tiny entity should be incorporated by Syria, the quicker the better. Many deluded people there. Sorry for generalizing but in the case of Lebanon, that entity pisses me off.

Not sure what the point of such troll posts are Salman ? @Falcon29
 
Palestinians are not hated in Mauritania. Not hated in Morocco. Not hated in Algeria. Not hated in Tunisia. Not hated in Libya. Not hated in Egypt. Not hated in Yemen. Not hated in Oman. Not hated in UAE. Not hated in Qatar. Not hated in KSA. Not hated in Bahrain. Not hated in Kuwait (maybe by a tiny minority of braindead nationalists who blame the entire Palestinian nation for what PLO branches in Kuwait did after Saddam's invasion of Kuwait), not hated in Iraq (by sane people that is), nor Syria nor Jordan or Lebanon.

Those are ridiculous claims. The only thing that is shameful here is how Lebanese Christians and Shias have treated Palestinians in Lebanon in recent years. But Lebanese are generally known for such behaviors (of course not all), we just need to look at the Syrian refugee situation in Lebanon. That entire tiny entity should be incorporated by Syria, the quicker the better. Many deluded people there.

Not sure what the point of such troll posts are Salman ? @Falcon29
The problem with them is their behavior and bigotry toward other Arabs even against Iranians they take their money and insult them

I know for the record that many Arab regimes like Assad, Saddam, and Qaddafi support the Palestinian cause to strength their image but that not jusfty their bigotry toward other Arabs
 
The problem with them is their behavior and bigotry toward other Arabs even against Iranians they take their money and insult them

I know for the record that many Arab regimes like Assad, Saddam, and Qaddafi support the Palestinian cause to strength their image but that not jusfty their bigotry toward other Arabs

What Iranian money? I have never seen a single school or even a single project in Palestine funded by Iran. All they do is supporting Islamic Jihad in Gaza with some outdated USSR era weapons. Palestine does not owe Iran anything. For 32 years until 1979, Iran was the greatest regional ally of Israel in the region, actively supporting Israel and aiding them. Palestinians are not as gullible, sadly, as Southern Lebanese (Shias) are, where they (Hezbollah) are content being Iranian Mullah regime slaves/proxies and engaging in empty rhetoric while never even once hurting Israel despite constant attacks by Israel in Syria.

Palestinians have grievances with Arab regimes that is where some of what you call bigotry/hatred originates from, it is never aimed at the Arab nation or people as such. We should not confuse the ground reality here with made up statements.

On the other hand the harsh/bad treatment that Palestinians and Syrians are receiving in Lebanon is well documented and sadly a disgrace.
 
Prophet Muhammad saws waking up in distress, was saying "وَيْلٌ لِلْعَرَبِ مِنْ شَرٍّ قَدِ اقْتَرَبَ" Woe to the Arabs from the evil coming to them. This was about Yajuj Majuj, but applicable to Israel as well (as the two are connected.)

The calamity on our Arab brothers is coming very soon in the face of Israel. So what should we do? Should we curse them for their weakness, poor decisions/alliances with the West, or their internal infighting?

No, we make dua for the Arab brothers with sincerity. The King of Jordan here is warning us about the reality which is coming. Probably Jordan will be first to be swallowed after Palestine.

Pakistanis, shape up. We will eventually have to deal with Israel's menace also. Every Muslim will face this fitnah, turn by turn. The Arabs are not alone in the crosshairs.
 
Prediction: Even if Israel manages to invade the West Bank, Jordan will not engage them in a military conflict. The best they will do is to condemn Israel in the OIC and the Arab League.
 
I as a kashmiri and pakistani stand with the kingdom of hashmiz. We stand to protect house of Hashim and their country. We will lay down our lives to protect hashimite kingdom . By Allah's grace they are not only hashmi but also Muslims.

Pakistaniz will defend hashimite kingdom of Jordan and its muslims.

Not because we are against israel. Just because ot is our faithful duty to protect Hashimiz and Muslims. But Hashimiz hold speicial place for every muslim no matter what divided shia or sunni group they belong to.

We will defend Hashimiz.

I am not a big supporter of Jordan's policies in the 1967 and 1973 wars, but when I read Indians on this thread denying Jordan's right to exist, somehow it aggravated me.

They are killing and brutalizing Muslims in India and in Kashmir, trying to invade Pakistan, and here they are supporting Israel against Jordan.

Shameful people these Hindu chauvinists are.
 
We have monkeys in the Iraqi political system that decide between life and death who have 100's of Iraqi patriots blood's on their hands. Hadi al-Ameri used to personally torture Iraqi POV's while in Iran, Shias and non-Shias alike, for the sole crime of the fighting for their own country. With such people around, what can we expect?
What were Arabs doing when Saddam was attacked first time?
 
What were Arabs doing when Saddam was attacked first time?

Saddam invaded Kuwait out of nowhere despite Kuwait helping bankroll the same Saddam when he fought against Iran, a war that Kuwait and Arabs had nothing to do with (in terms of initiating it) and a war that was forced upon Arabs. Iranian here blame "Arabs" for supporting a fellow Arab country and neighbor in Iraq, against a radical expansionist Iranian Islamist regime that openly talked about toppling Arab leaders in the region, as if the Arab nations should have been supporting Iran or as if Iran would not have done the same thing.

Even despite this Arab Syria and Arab Libya largely supported non-Arab Iran because of grievances against Saddam.

The Arab leaderships knew very well that such a war would weaken Iraq and Saddam's grip on Iraq long-term which proved correct. Similarly to how the Arab leaders warned against the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and openly talked about the need for sanctions relief and for a political solution in Iraq. Were proven correct as well. You can say much about Arab/Muslim leaderships of the region but they tend to be right long-term often since they know each other and the prevailing mentalities.
 
Saddam invaded Kuwait out of nowhere despite Kuwait helping bankroll the same Saddam when he fought against Iran, a war that Kuwait and Arabs had nothing to do with (in terms of initiating it) and a war that was forced upon Arabs. Iranian here blame "Arabs" for supporting a fellow Arab country and neighbor in Iraq, against a radical expansionist Iranian Islamist regime that openly talked about toppling Arab leaders in the region, as if the Arab nations should have been supporting Iran or as if Iran would not have done the same thing.

Even despite this Arab Syria and Arab Libya largely supported non-Arab Iran because of grievances against Saddam.

The Arab leaderships knew very well that such a war would weaken Iraq and Saddam's grip on Iraq long-term which proved correct. Similarly to how the Arab leaders warned against the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and openly talked about the need for sanctions relief and for a political solution in Iraq. Were proven correct as well. You can say much about Arab/Muslim leaderships of the region but they tend to be right long-term often since they know each other and the prevailing mentalities.
They're so correct, that's why the region is burning, lol.
 
They're so correct, that's why the region is burning, lol.

Who are they? You are quoting some non-Arab troll from Twitter (might as well quote a Twitter account of some random PDF user) along with some Wikipedia screenshots?

Saddam's claims of any foul play from Kuwait is not enough to go retard and invade a former ally that helped bankroll you with billions of USD and allowing its territory to serve as a friendly zone for Iraq (Saddam).

Why are you even posting some century old history? I am in favor of a single federal Arab state in the perfect world and I see no reason why KSA, Kuwait an Iraq should be separate states. In fact I predict that we will merge again as throughout the many millennia before.

Anyway are you Indian? Why the interest in internal Arab affairs? I find that rather strange as I don't know many Arabs who would do the same with Indian affairs or "studying" age old local conflicts/rivalries.
 

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