Killings in NYC subway system skyrocket to highest level in 25 years — even as ridership plummeted

[Hamartia Antidote]

NYC’s metro population is actually about 20 million.

around 19

New York City Metro Area Population 1950-2024

Chart and table of population level and growth rate for the New York City metro area from 1950 to 2024. United Nations population projections are also included through the year 2035.

www.macrotrends.net

1950	12,338,000

2022	18,867,000

However the population of NYC itself is

Demographic history of New York City - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

1950

7,891,957

2020

8,804,190

So the population of the city in 70 years has only gone up by a million yet the total metro area has gone up by 6.5 million.

I think we can see where a good portion of the people in that area are now living. More than half actually reside outside the city in the suburbs.

Same with the Boston metro area

Boston Metro Area Population 1950-2024

Chart and table of population level and growth rate for the Boston metro area from 1950 to 2024. United Nations population projections are also included through the year 2035.

www.macrotrends.net

1950

2,551,000

2022

4,327,000

now actual population

Boston - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

1950	801,444

2020	675,647

In 70 years the population of Boston has declined by 16% yet the population of the suburbs has gone up by 1.8 Million.

The total US population
1950 ~150 Million
2022 ~332 Million

So the US population has more than doubled while the cities are basically stagnating while the suburbs are getting bigger.

..and guess where many of those metro area people are probably working...

Suburbs Home to 67% of All Offices Constructed in Last 20 Years

Key Takeaways 1.8 billion square feet of rentable office space has been constructed across the country in the last 20 years, with 85% in the top 50 metropolitan areas. Office construction was overwhelmingly suburban, as

www.commercialcafe.com

Suburbs Home to 67% of All Offices Constructed in Last 20 Years​

 

[beijingwalker]

Yes, it says the population is 4 million

Ürümqi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Looks like it doesn't have 400 stations. How come? If they have half the population of New York why don't they have 200 stations??? Why are they cheapskates and not put in 200 stations?? What is China's problem??

You also stated 100 cities in China with over a million population have not put in subways. How come? We even have cities with less than a million people that have subways...how come China doesn't have more? What's China's problem?

Did they decide that putting a subway in cities with less than a million population isn't very cost effective or something? I guess shame on them for being cheapskates and not blindly paying for it all.

But they keep every inch of the subway clean as a whistle, why US subways can't? besides, why US subways are the dirtiest and most dangerou among all subways in the world?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

But they keep every inch of the subway clean as a whistle, why US subways can't? besides, why US subways are the dirtiest and most dangerou among all subways in the world?

Likely too much money spent on social programs for the higher percentage of poor people left in their city when the higher income people moved to the suburbs.

You are still not fully comprehending the demographic shifts that happened in the 1950's to big US cities. You have big US cities with infrastructure designed for middle class people (like China is doing) that gets thrown into disarray when many of those people move away and are replaced with lower income people (like China's migrant workers).

 

[beijingwalker]

Likely too much money spent on social programs for the higher percentage of poor people left in their city when the higher income people moved to the suburbs.

You are still not fully comprehending the demographic shifts that happened in the 1950's to big US cities.

Why US subway is worst maintained in the whole world and crimes infested? the ridership of the New York subway is no less than many other subways around the world, why others are much better?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Why US subway is worst maintained in the whole world and crimes infested? the ridership of the New York subway is no less than many other subways around the world, why others are much better?

Simple. Cities don't have the budgets anymore to support them since they are now spending more of it on social services for their higher percentage of low income citizens. Plus the revenue they receive from their residents is less than their expenditures. How hard is that to understand?

 

[beijingwalker]

Simple. Cities don't have the budgets anymore to support them since they are now spending more of it on social services for their higher percentage of low income citizens. How hard is that to understand?

You have budget to wage wars around the world but no money for the public facilities?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You have budget to wage wars around the world but no money for the public facilities?

You had a budget to build nuclear weapons in the 1960's but only waited until the year 2000 to help your people in "severe poverty"?

What kind of an A-Hole country are you?? At least we declared a war on severe poverty 40 years before your country while your leaders apparently accepted it as a "fact of life".

 

[beijingwalker]

You had a budget to build nuclear weapons in the 1960's but only waited until the year 2000 to help your people in "severe poverty"?

What kind of an A-Hole country are you??

Because China was at a very precarious stage back then and being threaten by both you and USSR, it's about life and death of the country, who is threatening the very survival of US now?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Because China was at a very precarious stage back then and being threaten by both you and USSR, it's about life and death of the country, who is threatening the very survival of US now?

LOL! I don't remember any time during the cold war hearing a US president saying there were also nuclear missiles pointed at China.

You are playing the victim to excuse your transgressions.

The fact of the matter is big city life in the US has been declining since the 1950's. Yes, it is increasing in China but that is just because you are just 100 years behind us in your thinking.

What to do about it is the issue...and throwing billions at them for basically a new coat of paint is not the solution. They are like the old Great Wall of China now.

Even the big financial firms are moving

More Than One In Five NYC Financial Firms Expect To Move Jobs Out Of The City, Study Finds

Only 13% of Manhattan office workers are expected to be back at the office five days a week by January, according to a new survey.

www.forbes.com

More Than One In Five NYC Financial Firms Expect To Move Jobs Out Of The City, Study Finds​

US firms set to shun big cities and opt for suburbs

As projects resume planned relocations to mid-sized cities surge, according to study

www.fdiintelligence.com

US firms set to shun big cities and opt for suburbs​

 

[beijingwalker]

LOL! I don't remember any time during the cold war hearing a US president saying there were also nuclear missile pointed at China.

You are playing the victim to excuse your transgressions.

Do you know why Douglas MacArthur was fired during the Korean war?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Do you know why Douglas MacArthur was fired during the Korean war?

That wasn't a nuclear missile. That would have been from a bomber during the Korean War.

The difference is he got fired for thinking that. Nutty Mao wanted the Russians to bomb battlefields with both Chinese forces and US forces since he considered his men expendable and wiping out the US forces would win the war for China.