Killing own people in the name of Jihad must end: Gen Janjua

[janon]

Jihad will end when there will be no muslim left on the face of earth. Try to do that.

I don't care, you can keep jihading. I know that my country and people are safe from the madness.

 

[syedali73]

@janon you have no authority on Islam and you can not post anything from anywhere there are several types of Hadits which are classified in a manner,the one you are quoting is called Zaeef meaning it never fulfilled the criteria for A+ grading and was fabricated by some one let say if it is true then no one has passed law for camel to be called holy or has banned it's meet and no single Muslim you will find who takes camel urine on daily basic as Hindus...As for Jihad Islam has never asked it's followers to kill civilians jihad against those who attack our cities and kill our peoples will continue no matter how much it hurts to you... @Horus @syedali73
READ THIS JANON ALSO.........
Misreported hadiths about Camels Urine and Mutilation by Prophet
Camel Milk AndUrine Hadiths

1. Best efforts are made to separate authentic hadith from the unauthentic ones. An entire subject i.e. Ilm ur Rijjal evolved from this effort. However, any hadith that does not match up with Quranic 'usool' is null and void. That is an established rule hence no need to defend any hadith based on being zaeef or otherwise.

2. Haitdh is not Mohamed (PBUH) words but narrations whose authenticity is based on the truthfulness of those who narrated it.

3. Not many medical treatments/options were available to humans some 1500 years ago. Bedouins from pre-Islamic era have been using camel's urine for the treatment of certain ailments and it is possible that the Prophet (PBUH) allowed them to continue the use of it in certain circumstances. However, urine of Camel or any other animal (or human) is considered 'najis', and for 'najis' there is an established rule (usool) in Islam i.e. 'najis' is allowed to be consumed only in the case of extreme need, such as dying of hunger, or thirst, or some disease. Under those circumstances, 'najis' (even swine flesh) is permissible, for Islam values life above anything.

4. With the advancement in medicine, there was no longer a need to use Camel's urine for the treatment of any ailment. Hence we never hear that camel herds are roaming on the roads of the cities and their urine is being sold as a cure of anything anywhere in the Islamic world (it is possible though that some illiterate Bedouins use it for certain ailments even today). When Muslims go to Mecca, they bring liters of Zamzam water not camel urine. This is quite different than what is happening across the border and only intellectually dishonests and Islamophobes wont appreciate the clear difference between the two.

5. ISIS/TTP/Boko Haram are Muslim equivalent of extreme right wing radical Hindutva ideology. However, unlike Hindutvadis the the ISIS/TTP/Boko Haram do not advocate the use of camel urine nor do they rear herds of camels to collect the urine for drinking purposes or manufacturing cosmetics and toiletries; this only happens on the other side of the border.

 

[utraash]

How does the word Jihad compare to a racist term? Are you an idiot or what?

The Arabic word “jihad” is a noun. Its singular past tense verb is “jahada” (masculine) or “jahadat” (feminine). The singular active participle of “jihad” is “mujahid” (masculine) or “mujahida“(feminine). The root of the word “jihad” is “juhd” which means “effort.” Another related word is “ijtihad“which means “working hard or diligently.”

Jihad is simply the process of “exerting the best efforts,” involving some form of “struggle” and “resistance,” to achieve a particular goal. In other words, jihad is the struggle against, or resistance to, something for the sake of a goal. The meaning of the word is independent of the nature of the invested efforts or the sought goal.

Buddy the conceptual meaning of jihad would be judged n understood by the actions of followers not by the definition of Arabic dictionary.....

 

[Moon]

@janon you have no authority on Islam and you can not post anything from anywhere there are several types of Hadits which are classified in a manner,the one you are quoting is called Zaeef meaning it never fulfilled the criteria for A+ grading and was fabricated by some one let say if it is true then no one has passed law for camel to be called holy or has banned it's meet and no single Muslim you will find who takes camel urine on daily basic as Hindus...As for Jihad Islam has never asked it's followers to kill civilians jihad against those who attack our cities and kill our peoples will continue no matter how much it hurts to you... @Horus @syedali73
READ THIS JANON ALSO.........
Misreported hadiths about Camels Urine and Mutilation by Prophet
Camel Milk AndUrine Hadiths

It's not even a valid ahadith the one he said goes against the basic fundamentals of purity defined in the Quran, hence it is a fake hadith. It's fabricated or at the best the narrator of the ahadith the Isnad either possess a weak memory or is a proven liar or his words have been "mutilated" to form this ahadith.

I have directly quoted Bukhari hadith. I haven't added any commentary.

I don't care who drinks what. But if you insult other people's religious beliefs, expect yours to come under scrutiny too.

By the way I don't know where you learned that hindus drink cow urine, that too on a daily basis.

No you haven't... you merely took a couple of lines from the internet without confirming them and used it as a way of "mudslinging" not only Islam but our Prophet(PBUH) too and yet you had the audacity of saying to take these problems to the Prophet...

 

[Zarvan]

Hi,
Slitting throats and burning alive is nowhere in Islam

Burning not allowed other is but not of innocents which ISIS does but of murderers and rapists

 

[salarsikander]

Burning not allowed other is but not of innocents which ISIS does but of murderers and rapists

HuH?

I am not sure I fully understand you.
Are you trying to say burning is allowed for rapists and murders ?

 

[Zarvan]

HuH?

I am not sure I fully understand you.
Are you trying to say burning is allowed for rapists and murders ?

Burning is not allowed but the punishment the way Saudis give I mean method of death punishment the way Saudis do it is allowed

 

[salarsikander]

Burning is not allowed but the punishment the way Saudis give I mean method of death punishment the way Saudis do it is allowed

Hi,

Lets not talk about Saudis please here, The last thing I want to discuss is them and Islam.
i was talking in the reference of burning people alive

 

[Menace2Society]

The number 1 problem for about 30-40 million Pakistanis is their complete lack of sanctity of life and moral obligations.

It is not natural for someone to kill random strangers they have never met before. This is psychotic behavior. To rationalize reality and to feel it is ok to kill someone is technically insanity.

The people who condone this like the mullahs and sect champions also have mental problem.

The solution will be to section 40 million Pakistanis in mental hospitals.

 

[Sneaker]

What a negative statement.... already others pointed out.. but he should be saying killing anyone is bad.... looks like all this blood shed has still not able to erase good and bad terrorist...

 

[Menace2Society]

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[rockstar08]

Yes. It is ridiculous to kill Muslims in the name of Jihad. That is reserved for the unbeliever.

Jihad doesn't mean killing anyone ..
Jihad means Struggle , it can be armed ... If your Police is fighting Criminals against Rapist and drug mafia , this is a Jihad against evil , and also rising a voice against truth in front of a dictator , is also a kind of Jihad , best Jihad is fight your own will , those evil thoughts which make you kill any innocent or go against the Religious teaching ..

 

[I.R.A]

Baloch are patriotic Pakistanis, some of them are misguided and playing in hands of others. With passage of time if positive attitude and policies of the central government continue we will see people of Balochistan develop and prosper.

And regarding statement of Gen Junjua including Jihad, one only needs to look at motto of Pakistan Army. If any Indian has got problem with that he can suck on it, we are not going to change it for them.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Jihad doesn't mean killing anyone ..
Jihad means Struggle , it can be armed ... If your Police is fighting Criminals against Rapist and drug mafia , this is a Jihad against evil , and also rising a voice against truth in front of a dictator , is also a kind of Jihad , best Jihad is fight your own will , those evil thoughts which make you kill any innocent or go against the Religious teaching ..

I agree. My point was a criticism against the general who distorts the meaning of jihad and not against the concept of jihad itself

 

[rockstar08]

I agree. My point was a criticism against the general who distorts the meaning of jihad and not against the concept of jihad itself

you know , we humans are most hypocrites , those Taliban and ISIS just twist the meaning of stuff, and use it according , to justify their mental sickness .