'Kill Ahmadis' leaflets found in UK mosque

[Sky lord]

if and i say again if anyone proclaim that they are a prophet to me i will shoot them and kill them
no problem in it at all

Why?

Why does it make a difference to you what they think?

Qadianies can stop all this so called attack on them by calling themselves non Muslim and call them religion some thing [QUelse Op

Why should they do that? Why should the victims make the accommodation?

 

[livingdead]

why is there so much hatred in a religious center as a mosque? what is the root cause of this bigotry?

its sectarian, just like churches in northern ireland played their part in sectarian bloodbath. sometimes division/hatred from home country spills over to UK.

if and i say again if anyone proclaim that they are a prophet to me i will shoot them and kill them
no problem in it at all

I feel like a prophet everyday..
besides are not prophets always prosecuted by existing sects/religions.. as it was claimed about mohammed and jesus.

 

[Pakistani E]

why is there so much hatred in a religious center as a mosque? what is the root cause of this bigotry?

It's not just about Mosques, the ahmadi hatred runs deep among Pakistani Muslims. I went to school in a 70% Pakistani Muslim school population. I faced verbal abuse and several physical threats. But the only reason I was mostly spared was because I was friends with an outstanding Pakistani Sunni Muslim chap who threatened dire consequences on those that harmed me. My other ahmadi friends were not lucky, I recall one of my friends being chased around the school by a bearded fella with a wooden stick shouting "Qadiani nu pharo" ( Get the Qadiani). Another had to change schools due to constant bullying.

While a decade or two back back, this area saw regular disturbances involving Ahmadi Muslims and Non Ahmadi Muslims that did get very ugly and physical. It's a regular occurrence in areas with large Ahmadi Muslims and non Ahmadi Muslims Populations in UK. Not even 1% of it is reported.

 

[barbarosa]

I am a prophet.

YOU CAN SAY BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY FAR and the watchman of European Union is around you.Other side you are not a religious person,you have no any religion. There is no difference between you and communist.

 

[Sky lord]

It's not just about Mosques, the ahmadi hatred runs deep among Pakistani Muslims. I went to school in a 70% Pakistani Muslim school population. I faced verbal abuse and several physical threats. But the only reason I was mostly spared was because I was friends with an outstanding Pakistani Sunni Muslim chap who threatened dire consequences on those that harmed me. My other ahmadi friends were not lucky, I recall one of my friends being chased around the school by a bearded fella with a wooden stick shouting "Qadiani nu pharo" ( Get the Qadiani). Another had to change schools due to constant bullying.

While a decade or two back back, this area saw regular disturbances involving Ahmadi Muslims and Non Ahmadi Muslims that did get very ugly and physical. It's a regular occurrence in areas with large Ahmadi Muslims and non Ahmadi Muslims Populations in UK. Not even 1% of it is reported.

I hope you don't mind my asking, but are there conversions out of Ahmediyya into Sunni sects? If so, is it in large numbers?

 

[Mitro]

Because if they call them selves Muslim and don't believe in khatme nabuwat they are asking trouble and if they don't believe in the teaching of the religion then why bother calling themselves follower of that religion just to bring other from that religion to their mentality.
If they call themselves qadiani and say their prophet name is mirza no Muslim have any thing to do with it .

Why?

Why does it make a difference to you what they think?


Why should they do that? Why should the victims make the accommodation?

 

[Jaanbaz]

Qadianies can stop all this so called attack on them by calling themselves non Muslim and call them religion some thing [QUelse Op

Bullshit.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

I hope you don't mind my asking, but are there conversions out of Ahmediyya into Sunni sects? If so, is it in large numbers?

Ahmedis who were born into the religion are slightly decreasing in numbers. A vast majority of the Ahmedis converted from Sunni Islam to use 'religious persecution' as an excuse to get to liberal countries with more economic opportunities - some of them converted back; while many are Sunnis disguised as Ahmedis because they live in Ahmedi-majority area.

Right now Ahmedis are mostly gaining their converts in the Americas; such as Mexico and South America.

 

[Sky lord]

If they call themselves qadiani and say their prophet name is mirza no Muslim have any thing to do with it .

I don't think they are asking Sunni Muslims to be best friends with them. they are only asking not to be killed or their children beaten up or chased around the school with a stick or their places of worship bombed.

Why should you kill someone because his philosophy doesn't match yours? Why not just ignore? Or take out a procession if you are very offended, why kill?

If they are good enough to join the army in large numbers and willingly die for their country, why are they not good enough to be protected by their country?

 

[Jaanbaz]

better start with the Qadiani leader kutthi na putar mirza who declared the whole muslim ummah from afghanistan to zanzibar kaafirs
this shit eaters sayings should be the first to get banned for inciting hatred against 1 billion muslims

Its all cool, you can swear at our founder, no one is going to lynch you and bomb your mosque, that's your speciality. Terrorist.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Because if they call them selves Muslim and don't believe in khatme nabuwat they are asking trouble and if they don't believe in the teaching of the religion then why bother calling themselves follower of that religion just to bring other from that religion to their mentality.
If they call themselves qadiani and say their prophet name is mirza no Muslim have any thing to do with it .

Muslims acknowledge them as a different religion - but they refuse to say that; that is why there is so much tension between Muslims and Ahmedis.

Lets say a non-Muslim is trying to learn about Islam and goes to a 'Mosque' - Ahmedis will give them their beliefs and portray it as basic Muslim belief. This causes alot of confusion.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Ahmedis who were born into the religion are slightly decreasing in numbers

Not decreasing but being outnumbered by African Ahmadi converts. I

 

[Sky lord]

while many are Sunnis disguised as Ahmedis because they live in Ahmedi-majority area.

So to clarify that means that in Ahmedi majority areas Sunnis are in danger?

Just curious to know more that's all.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Muslims acknowledge them as a different religion

Wahabis consider Shia as another religion, lets hope they don't gather much support in Pakistan's parliament to get them declared kafir too.

So to clarify that means that in Ahmedi majority areas Sunnis are in danger?

Yeah, Ahmadis are the ones blowing themselves in Mosques, lynching and burning people over blasphemy.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

I don't think they are asking Sunni Muslims to be best friends with them. they are only asking not to be killed or their children beaten up or chased around the school with a stick or their places of worship bombed.

Why should you kill someone because his philosophy doesn't match yours? Why not just ignore? Or take out a procession if you are very offended, why kill?

If they are good enough to join the army in large numbers and willingly die for their country, why are they not good enough to be protected by their country?

We have no problem with them - the conflict stems from the fact that they dont view themselves as Ahmedis but simply as Muslims despite conflicting beliefs. This causes alot of confusion when trying to attend Mosques, funerals and ect... because they have different ways of doing things. It is also a problem for new converts.

Its like portraying your self as Christian and announcing to everyone that real Christians believe in 500 gods and ect..

So to clarify that means that in Ahmedi majority areas Sunnis are in danger?

Just curious to know more that's all.

Yes, you can say that. There are cases of bully, pressure, boycott, harassment and ect... the same can be said for Sunni-majority areas.

Wahabis consider Shia as another religion, lets hope they don't gather much support in Pakistan's parliament to get them declared kafir too.



Yeah, Ahmadis are the ones blowing themselves in Mosques, lynching and burning people over blasphemy.

Some sects of Wahhabism claim that; but they are too insignificant to do anything about it. There are no Shia beliefs that conflict with mainstream Muslim beliefs as compared to Ahmedis.

The things you listed in your second sentence are illegal in Islam; and those who do it do not represent us.