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Key Pakistan Taliban town 'falls'

Friday, 6 November 2009


BBC NEWS | South Asia | Key Pakistan Taliban town 'falls'

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Pakistanis back Taliban assault

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Pakistani forces have captured the strategically important town of Ladha from the Taliban in ongoing clashes in South Waziristan, officials say.


According to the military, 28 militants and five soldiers have been killed in battles over the past 24 hours.

The army went on the offensive in South Waziristan on 17 October to root out militants behind a wave of bombings.

The latest fighting took place as gunmen wounded an army brigadier in a drive-by shooting in Islamabad.

There has been no independent verification of the military's latest reported gains as journalists are not allowed into the area except on occasional trips organised by the military.

'Little resistance'

The BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan in Islamabad says that the military does seem to have made significant gains in its campaign in South Waziristan so far - and across the country there seems to be a consensus that the operation is the right option at the moment.

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The army began its offensive in South Waziristan on 17 October

Our correspondent says that the military's confidence is not without basis - despite a wave of militant attacks that has killed hundreds in recent weeks, most Pakistanis remain firmly behind the operation in South Waziristan.

The military says that it has advanced into the militant heartland from three directions and in addition to taking Ladha has also captured the militant-held village of Makeen.

It says that heavy clashes in Makeen and Sararogha have claimed lives on both sides.

Clearing mines

"The forces have secured towns of Kaniguram and Saam," a local administration official told the BBC.

"Tanks, backed by ground troops, are now advancing into Ladha sub-division."

The official added that Kaniguram had been completely secured and troops were now clearing mines in the surrounding area.

Ladha, located between Kaniguram and the northernmost town of Makeen, is the largest sub-division of South Waziristan in terms of population.

It is a highly mountainous region, where the Taliban have dozens of hideouts.

There is a huge fort there which was manned by Pakistani paramilitary troops until recently.

It was abandoned after the Taliban blocked all routes to it, making it impossible to bring in supplies.

Fortified bunkers

The latest fighting is taking place in the same area where Pakistani Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud was killed in an attack by a US drone aircraft in early August.

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"Troops are also arriving from the northern boundary of the territory and have reached Makeen's main market," the official said.

"Security forces have also set up fortified bunkers in the mountain ranges around Makeen.

"The most heavily mined area is that between Razmak and Makeen and troops are also clearing that territory."

Razmak and Makeen, in the north of South Waziristan, were the only major towns not in the control of the security forces.

Officials say that most of the Mehsud heartland in South Waziristan is now under their control.

Only a few areas are controlled by the militants, and these are being regularly bombarded by jets, helicopter gunships and artillery.

But as the operation against the Taliban militants in South Waziristan enters its fourth week, officials say that many militants have escaped the military's onslaught.

They say the militants have taken refuge in the nearby tribal regions of North Waziristan, Kurrum and Khyber.

"We have not seen much resistance as we entered Makeen," a senior military official in the region, who declined to be identified, told the Reuters news agency.

"Our troops are now clearing mines and improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and moving forward."

The clashes are being closely watched by the US and its Nato allies fighting in neighbouring Afghanistan, who argue that the South Waziristan area is a sanctuary for al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters.

In a separate development, police say that they have killed two militants in a clash after they refused to stop their vehicle at a checkpoint in the town of Mansehra, 90km (56 miles) north of Islamabad.

Two policemen were wounded in the attack, police say, and bomb-laden jackets and detonators normally used by suicide bombers were recovered.

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I suppose the Taliban leadership has decided on a strategy that compels PA forces to a prolonged occupation so their supply lines can then be cut off, compelling eventual retreat.

That works if Afghanistan because the coalition there lacks the trained manpower to protect towns and villages from being terrorized. But the PA's resources are far larger. If the PA pours in its manpower it can keep the supply lines open and villages occupied and so force the Talibs into hiding, just as one chases a robber into his hold. Then the Taliban leaders can be hunted down and captured or destroyed.
 
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And the difference between ISAF/US in Afg and PA in Pak is that the PA is much less risk averse when it comes to causalities. This is not meant as an insult against the forces on the other side of the border, but this is simple fact. For political reasons, the forces in Afg are more hunkered down and success in an op for them is mostly about avoiding any casualties. Though this is also true for the PA in areas where large scale ops are not ongoing where the only mandate is to beat back assaults from the talibs and retaliate after being attacked. Not the case in SWA, where the PA will go all out to win.
 
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Pakistan army zindabadd!!!!! :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: kill all these terrorists supported by foreign agencies.....i think this operation will be over soon because i read in other thread that hakemullah is angry at his soldiers who are leaving the battlefields because they are scared to face the pak army :D:D
 
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May Allah Bless us all although every nation who did cruelty against their own brother, have had "Azab" indeed!

Doing someone's else war against our own people will cost us alot!

If this is war against terrorism then please any so-called "roshan khayal" person tell me y American and NATTO forces evacuated their Checkpoints on Waziristan-Afghanistan border to let "their very own" militants get hide inside Afghanistan?

I feel too sad when i read by our own Pakistani member say "yahoo" on a drone attack killing several from us!

We or any of we are not terrorists! Army is busy against them! they are aware of it! they are playing with us! they give us money in one hand and sale us weapons in the other.

Please my all brothers and sisters, wakeup! Be united against the real enemy! find out real enemy! thats time! otherwise we will get ALLAH's punishment!
 
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May Allah Bless us all although every nation who did cruelty against their own brother, have had "Azab" indeed!

Doing someone's else war against our own people will cost us alot!

If this is war against terrorism then please any so-called "roshan khayal" person tell me y American and NATTO forces evacuated their Checkpoints on Waziristan-Afghanistan border to let "their very own" militants get hide inside Afghanistan?

I feel too sad when i read by our own Pakistani member say "yahoo" on a drone attack killing several from us!

We or any of we are not terrorists! Army is busy against them! they are aware of it! they are playing with us! they give us money in one hand and sale us weapons in the other.

Please my all brothers and sisters, wakeup! Be united against the real enemy! find out real enemy! thats time! otherwise we will get ALLAH's punishment!
I suggest you wake up before a suicide bombing by talibs hits near to you. You can go surrender to hakeemullah if you want, the rest of us will fight these rats from karachi to khyber. A day will come when your TTP thugs will be dragged by regular people whenever they are found. And that day you will have to choose between Pakistan and Taliban. Choose carefully.
 
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But the PA's resources are far larger. If the PA pours in its manpower it can keep the supply lines open and villages occupied and so force the Talibs into hiding, just as one chases a robber into his hold. Then the Taliban leaders can be hunted down and captured or destroyed.

Are you suggesting that we engage our forces in Afghanistan. If so spare us please, we will not be dragged into your war in Afghanistan and there's a reason why Coalition is not sending more troops.
Pakistani people have seen enough already in their own country.

If not, my apologies.

:pakistan:
 
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I suggest you wake up before a suicide bombing by talibs hits near to you. You can go surrender to hakeemullah if you want, the rest of us will fight these rats from karachi to khyber. A day will come when your TTP thugs will be dragged by regular people whenever they are found. And that day you will have to choose between Pakistan and Taliban. Choose carefully.
m not confused!

U r avoiding facts dude! have good analytical eye on facts then quote me!
 
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kill them all its pakistan land of pure.these tararrsts should go to there real home in hell for fasad on the land of pure.
 
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Exactly! Kill the terrorists! thats wt everyone of us want! I m against killing of innocent people whoever they are i.e. pakistani or american!

but can anyone answer me? y US & NATO Forces evacuated?
 
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Exactly! Kill the terrorists! thats wt everyone of us want! I m against killing of innocent people whoever they are i.e. pakistani or american!

but can anyone answer me? y US & NATO Forces evacuated?
Nobody is for killing innocents. Only your taliban loves doing that deliberately.

US forces left because they don't have enough troops for small combat outposts all over Afghanistan. Isn't that what you want? The US to leave Afghanistan? Change of heart now?

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Truth dont need correct sentences angry fella!
Truth needs facts, evidence and an ability to understand what the poster is talking about, mr talib.
 
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May Allah Bless us all although every nation who did cruelty against their own brother, have had "Azab" indeed!

Doing someone's else war against our own people will cost us alot!

If this is war against terrorism then please any so-called "roshan khayal" person tell me y American and NATTO forces evacuated their Checkpoints on Waziristan-Afghanistan border to let "their very own" militants get hide inside Afghanistan?

I feel too sad when i read by our own Pakistani member say "yahoo" on a drone attack killing several from us!

We or any of we are not terrorists! Army is busy against them! they are aware of it! they are playing with us! they give us money in one hand and sale us weapons in the other.

Please my all brothers and sisters, wakeup! Be united against the real enemy! find out real enemy! thats time! otherwise we will get ALLAH's punishment!
All this dont mean that m in favor of terrorists! Terrorists must be destroyed in the first instance! I wish peace be again rule! but kill the right one who deserved to be killed!
 
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Nobody is for killing innocents. Only your taliban loves doing that deliberately.

US forces left because they don't have enough troops for small combat outposts all over Afghanistan. Isn't that what you want? The US to leave Afghanistan? Change of heart now?

---------- Post added at 06:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:44 PM ----------


Truth needs facts, evidence and an ability to understand what the poster is talking about, mr talib.
Us must stay in Afghanistan till the establishment of Peace as militants are again gaining power in there! I hope to see a peaceful and liberal Afghanistan as a neighbor for Pakistan!

If US have less troops to deploy on border then wts need to evacuate on the same time when Pak army is swapping militants? I m sory i cant get it!

n m not one of Taliban! i just believe that if everything is as it is presented, then this behavior of US & NATO forces dont match with it!

 
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