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Abbaiii Afghanistan see aateiiii haiiin.....kaun saa Punjabi yaa Sindhi wahan yeh kaaam ker rahaa haiii ? :blink:

Most of them from FATA/Pakhtunkhwa. After Karakorum highway completed many ousiders settled in GB giving rise to sectarian conflict in GB.
 
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Look brother, whether you are a Kashmiri by heritage or history is not the question. The final fate of Jammu and Kashmir does rest with the people of Jammu and Kashmir. As the final fate of Kerala rests with the people of Kerala. As the final fate of Arunachal Pradesh rests with the people of Arunachal Pradesh. As the final fate of. Cchoro. I think you got the idea. The final fates of all these peoples over and above what they decide for themselves finally rests with the people of India. Who collectively decide the fate of India. Just a short pointer as to how we operate, my Kashmiri brother.

Kashmir is NOT part of India so NO indian can decide about is fate.

Lets the People of Kashmir decide that. Hold referendum if they want to remain with India then be it we have no objection and wont have.

Indians claim over and over again that majority in J&K favour India if that is so then why you are afraid of holding referendum there?
 
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:laugh: hold your donkey

For Karachi/Lahore/KPK/Balcohistan you need to first hold refrendum in North East , oh wait Telangana needs a separate status as well dahhh. These are Pakistani areas under International laws/rules and regulations .


Now coming back to the disputed area well If kashmir was that pro-India you would have held referendum there. you know well that Its not part of India at all

Don't be stupid. Telengana wants to be a separate state, for better administrative purposes. It doesn't want to be separate from India or need a separate status. Don't talk about things you don't know.

Anyway we will hold referendum as soon as you fulfill the first step, as agreed. Withdraw your forces from Pakistan Kashmir. If you do that, we will hold a referendum. Now who is stopping you? Who is stopping you? Who is stopping you?

LOL. Pathetic how some Pakistanis keep braying about the UN "referendum" without any idea of what it involved.
 
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Most of them from FATA/Pakhtunkhwa. After Karakorum highway completed many ousiders settled in GB giving rise to sectarian conflict in GB.

STFU No one from FATA Live there.

There people are indeginous and have their own languages.
 
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Most of them from FATA/Pakhtunkhwa. After Karakorum highway completed many ousiders settled in GB giving rise to sectarian conflict in GB.

You make this as we go along...don't you ? :lol:

They're from Afghanistan...KPK is free from terrorist havens per se its the border areas with Afghanistan that are troublesome for us ! Why do you think they (the Afghans) caught that TTP schumuk in Afghanistan instead of Pakistan ? Because the Swat Operation & the ensuing Operations in Pakistan's Tribal Areas cleared them out & sent the boys across the Durand Line....unfortunately we can't pursue them !
 
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Kashmir is NOT part of India so NO indian can decide about is fate.

Lets the People of Kashmir decide that. Hold referendum if they want to remain with India then be it we have no objection and wont have.

Indians claim over and over again that majority in J&K favour India if that is so then why you are afraid of holding referendum there?

How many times do you need to hear that India will never let go off Kashmir? Like ever? Would really letting you hear it one more time make you feel better? Because I will say it just for you...
 
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Don't be stupid. Telengana wants to be a separate state, for better administrative purposes. It doesn't want to be separate from India or need a separate status. Don't talk about things you don't know.[/.QUOTE]

mewooo and how do Lahore/Islamabad/KP wants independent and not administrative purpose status?

You Indians are idiots to core when you demand that Pakistan should hold referendum in Lahore .

and oh as far the Telangana well you colonal mindset Bharatis are even afraid to grant separate statud to Telangana even on administrative basis.

seems too many Thackrays at work.



Anyway we will hold referendum as soon as you fulfill the first step, as agreed. Withdraw your forces from Pakistan Kashmir. If you do that, we will hold a referendum. Now who is stopping you? Who is stopping you? Who is stopping you?

LOL. Pathetic how some Pakistanis keep braying about the UN "referendum" without any idea of what it involved.

The first step was not only involving Pakistan but also Endia.

Both have to withdraw at the same time. you dont have balls to do that
 
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Kashmir is NOT part of India so NO indian can decide about is fate.

Lets the People of Kashmir decide that. Hold referendum if they want to remain with India then be it we have no objection and wont have.

Indians claim over and over again that majority in J&K favour India if that is so then why you are afraid of holding referendum there?

Jammu and Kashmir is very much a state of India. With free and fair elections. Administrative service. Police and Civil machinery. And all under the writ of the Indian state. I am not understanding you?

P.S. Telangana is a largely Hindu movement for cleaning up Andhra Pradesh politics of foreign influence. JFYI.
 
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Maybe I have not been clear, so let me clear some confusions you seem to be having. I wasnt talking about Kashmiris in an ethnic sense, I was talking about them in a geographical sense. To me Kashmiris are people living in the part of the Kashmir Valley, not people who have ancestral roots there, or lived there once upon a time and now have nothing to do with it. My ancestors belonged to Lahore before partition, but that does not make it such that I get to have a say in the political future of Lahore anymore, since I dont live there, pay taxes there, or have anything anymore to do with the place. So yes, you and the Mirpuri guy do not count as Indian Kashmiris in my book, what you do with Pak Kashmir I could care less about.

As for the disputed part, well you are correct if we were living in 1947 according to the British Partition Plans, where all states except Bengal and Punjab were to join either India or Pak or stay independent. But then again, The whole state of J&K was supposed to stay independent, until a invasion was plotted by the then GoP, not to mention subsequent wars and still ongoing terror tactics. So yes, a lot of things have happened since 1947, most of it initiated by Pak, so your views are no longer relevant today in my opinion.

Kashmiris are Kashmiris. Period ! No amount of clever play with words can wish away the disputed region of the Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir that remains divided between India, Pakistan & partly China. The Lahore analogy is beyond moronic for Lahore is not part of the same political paradigm as J&K is & therefore any political future of J&K would involve Kashmiris - from both sides - to decide on its fate as a whole.

Your opinion is duly noted & the exaggerations, omissions & fallacious analogies are duly chuckled at ! :tup:
 
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How many times do you need to hear that India will never let go off Kashmir? Like ever? Would really letting you hear it one more time make you feel better? Because I will say it just for you...

You can say whatever you want the reality is that Bharatis even dont know what areas constitute J&K.
 
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Jammu and Kashmir is very much a state of India. With free and fair elections. Administrative service. Police and Civil machinery. And all under the writ of the Indian state. I am not understanding you?

fair and free :lol:

mass graves in Kashmir , the recent stone pelting movement even by Kashmiri women proves how much J&K is state of India.



P.S. Telangana is a largely Hindu movement for cleaning up Andhra Pradesh politics of foreign influence.

foreign influence :laugh: from mars? why people are burning themself for Telangana
 
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very good news.

nice pics @janon
 
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You can say whatever you want the reality is that Bharatis even dont know what areas constitute J&K.

I will agree on this personally. I did not know about Gilgit, Baltistan and all till I joined here. We always studied these referred to as Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.
 
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