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NO my friend;

The Indian forces landed in Kashmir only after Raja Hari Singh signed instrument of accession.
And it was Pak's attempt to take Kashmir by force which made this happen.

"All the activity was recorded in detail in the first volume of sardar vallahbhbhai correspondence which make it clear that preperations for the invasion of kashmir where being made well before any pakistan "invasion".
The sikh ruler of patiala in the first two weeks of october sent a battalion of soldiers to kashmir and when the indian regulars arrived at siringar where "surprised" to see them encamped at the airport where they had been since the 17th october"

Terrorism in Northern India: Jammu and Kashmir and the Punjab - Ved Prakash - Google Books

So the excuse that the indian army only came in after the "tribal invasion" is false.
according to the best of my knowledge the pak-tribesman did cross over until 22 October 1947.....just under a week after the indian-allies invaded "unofficially".




In Kashmir, the Maharaja Hari Singh Bahadur (see History of Kashmir to 1947) and his predominately Hindu administration refused to accede to India or Pakistan. Soon after the British granted independence to British India on August 14, 1947, Muslims in Gilit and parts of Ladakh revolted against Bahadur.

In October 1947, Muslims in western Kashmir set up an Azad (free) Kashmir government at Muzaffarabad and organized an army, which soon received supplies from Pakistan. Shortly thereafter, several thousand tribesmen from Pakistan invaded Kashmir and headed toward Srinagar. Bahadur acceded his kingdom to India and asked for assistance. India sent in troops to protect the capital and fighting soon raged throughout Kashmir.

In May 1948, Pakistan sent in troops to defend Azad (free) Kashmir against efforts by the Indian army to conquer the territory. Ultimately, both India and Pakistan appealed to the United Nations, a peacekeeping force was sent to the border, and on January 1, 1949, a cease fire line was agreed to by both nations.

Lets not use the indian timeline of events which start from the "tribal invasion" but the real time line.

On November 5 and 6, 1947, more than 100 lorries, loaded with women, children and old men were taken into the wilderness of Kuthua forests. Hindu extremists and armed gangs were let loose on these innocent people and an unparallel butchery was perpetrated,

British daily The London Times quoting its special correspondent in India stated that the Maharaja, under his own supervision, got assassinated 2,37,000 Muslims, using military forces in the Jammu area.

The editor of Statesman, Ian Stephen, in his book Horned Moon writes that till the end of autumn 1947, more than 200,000 Muslims were murdered in one go. Horace Alexander wrote in the Spectator (16 January 1948) that the killings had the tacit consent of State authority and put the figure at 2,00,000.

Times of London reported the events in Jammu with such a front page headlines: Elimination of Muslims from Jammu and pointed out that Maharaja Hari Singh was in person commanding all the forces which were ethnically cleansing the Muslims.

Daily Telegraph of London dated 12 January 1948
The other aspect of the carnage was appropriation of properties of Muslims. The Muslim names were immediately erased to conform to new ownership. For instance Urdu Bazar became Rajinder Bazar and Islamia School became Hari Singh High School to conform to the new rules. Almost 95 percent of left-over properties, which should have in the normal course been taken over by the State government were allowed appropriated by looters and rioters

So that gives you an idea of what was going on before any "tribal invasion".

Patiala State infantrymen stationed at Jammu and Patiala gunners positioned at Srinagar Airfield on 17th of October 1947 could not have gone unnoticed by the pak army


It was only after the mass killings that the Muslims soldiers from poonch-mirpur had a uprising against the Dogra regime for its connivance in the ethnic cleansing of Muslims in kashmir. They knew that the Dogra regime intended to accede to India and New Delhi had annexation design over the state.It was only after the full indian invasion of kashmir that the pak army-militias came to the aid of the kashmiris.

(Quoted by Rajendera Sareen in his book Pakistan: The India factor, New Delhi, 1948, p-221) Government of India in order to justify their invasion on State of Jammu Kashmir launched a propaganda that there was no Poonch rebellion but that 1,00,000 ferocious Tribesman had invaded Kashmir at the instigation of Pakistan Government who looted and killed everyone coming in their way; and that they had been imparted training and supplied transport facilities by Pakistan Army.

1.Dogra regime go on mass killing spree of muslim in jammu
2.Indian army assisted by Hindu and Sikh extremists both local and those imported from the East Punjab help dogra forces.
3.Uprising in kashmir with poonchis-mirpuris soldiers taking the lead
4.Full invasion by the indian army
5.Followed by pak army-militia help for kashmiris
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The military came in after the pandits got slaughtered,no Muslim leader in kashmir has the balls to speak openly about the pandit massacre because they were all guilty.

If India was truly the oppressor,UN or the west would have intervened by now.

you can believe or not believe anything,we wont let go of anything and we wont finish until we rip the hurriyat conference bone by bone.



Hyderabad is 85% Hindu and the Army came because the pandits got massacred,you want to blame someone,blame hamid gul and his hurriyat chamchas.

humein to badla lena hi lena.
Ur post is so stupid that i would dnt feel like replying ..ill talk to someone who atleast use logic right.

KASHMIR RAHEGA HINDUSTAN.....

IF YOU NEED KASHMIR....FIGHT WITH US WITH REAL ARMY NOT WITH MUJI CLOWNS
we are not fighting ur own country men hate you .. they are fighting we are just supporting them :) and we learnt that from you guys .
 
techincally the tried protesting alot with peacefiul means ... but u guys forced them into picking up the arms ...
Yes .. yes.. we forced Jihadis across the border to pick up guns...
 
Ur post is so stupid that i would dnt feel like replying ..ill talk to someone who atleast use logic right.


we are not fighting ur own country men hate you .. they are fighting we are just supporting them :) and we learnt that from you guys .

Nothing changes whether u reply or not.
 
well that and million people protest on streets saying GO indian DOGS GO back ..
Millions... you call few thousand misled cartoons... Millions... man someone has to get enrolled to Mathematics class.
 
NEVER.

we will never give Kashmir. Infact we will liberate Baluchistan and make Pakistan pay for 26/11
 
NEVER.

we will never give Kashmir. Infact we will liberate Baluchistan and make Pakistan pay for 26/11
pakistan didnt have any hand in 26/11 .. ur policies and killing of innocent muslims by invading army is the sole reason of
 
You are a low life troll... and to prove you wrong.. i dare you post tht "video"... as a proof of your ... bs!

Usual B.I.A effected indian troll... :lol:

And same lame one liner since you got no logical answer to refute the facts.

NEVER.

we will never give Kashmir. Infact we will liberate Baluchistan and make Pakistan pay for 26/11

Inshah Allah this will happen.This is the future of Pakistan.
 
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Dont give Conspiracy theories Of Some Act of Fame By author we need authenticate Proof Like
United Nations Security Council Resolution 47[/quote]

Let us start with "authenticate Proof Like" the UN.
United Nations Official Document


="WARREN SS, post: 4995056, member: 151482"]
Determines Pakistan as
Aggressor State [/quote]

Cant seem to find where it says "pakistan is the aggressor" in the document......may be you could post it for us?


="WARREN SS, post: 4995056, member: 151482"]
If you have some Source Were
intentional community Certify Indian Aggression in Kashmir State

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So you ignore the bit where the maharaja went on a rampage and murdered loads of people. You don't mention that it was the indians that went to the UN and asked for a vote on the issue but somehow after ignoring the "international community" for decades on the kashmir issue you are all of sudden going to have a total U-turn on kashmir if the "international community" certify that india is the aggressor?.....please
 
It is no use talking history. It is no use talking who is right or who is wrong. This way the debate never ends.

Lot of blood has flown down Indus. Early 50's would have been different. Now national identities have been formed. It is hard for every Indian to even imagine India without Kashmir The matter of fact is I see further integration of Kashmir into Indian union by scarping article 370 (already there is a debate going on article 370) and scrapping residency law that prevents Indian from outside the state of Kashmir in owning property in Kashmir. In another two decades or so, as I see, the demographics of Kashmir would change beyond recognition
 
"We ruled", brother nice delusion every invader who
wanted to invade India first came to your door steps,
whopped your a$$ and then proceeded. Hence you have
had to change religion multiple times, first u were
hindus, then became buddhists and now muslim. You
never ruled any nation, somebody else did...all you did
was licked their foot


Dropping 12000+ bombs on poor tribal areas,civilians as well as using tanks.
Very brave of you.
Also Pakistan military does not have the guts to confront Taliban in North Waziristan that's why they ran to papa USA to use drones.
I think it is cleared that we are fighting with that so called Pakistani Taliban for being save.... and they are armored with very modern weapons just like I can say they have M4 G3 Ak47 RPG 7, MINES, Anti Air etc etc
They have engineers which makes bomb, A common man cant do that, they have a Large number of army which is control by leader of TTP sound and smooth.
Now to you Mr Sexynerd what do you think we are fools or you are so intelligent we know who is operating this movement and why they are what benefits they have behind this AIM
Think which country want a civil war or internal disturbance in Pakistan
NON other Then INDIA, AMERICA and ISRAEL.
Now Back in topic on other side Kashmirs are innocent they are not armored they are only protesting since 1947 only and you are scared THINK WHAT will be your opinion when they start ............
YOU KNOW Chill man chill man until we tolerate.
 
Those few students who do not want to respect the flag or India should be given a one month visit visa to Pakistan , after seeing the situation there i doubt they will ever raise their objections again.
 
Those few students who do not want to respect the flag or India should be given a one month visit visa to Pakistan , after seeing the situation there i doubt they will ever raise their objections again.

Well the problem , they want everything free, they want hindu money to eat or else they don't survive, subsides gas so that they keep warm.

moreover , If any 10 muslims killed , all PAK muslims make hue and cray. but they justify killing and removing pandits. Wish anyone satte can remove and kill muslims and send all of them to kashmir and PAK and then see PAK face.
Anyone in PAK ,if raise Freedom of Kashmir form PAK will be killed immediately by using terrorists. PAK Kashmir has less population of its native then outsiders.

Fake PAK propoganda and fake and delusions. If they so concerned , why they not liberated Their kashmir? why they do not held peblisite in their part? because they want to grab Kashmir nothing else , this is simple truth.
see what happen in Myanmar and how PAK reacts. the problem is in religion , Kashmiri can't see anyone happy so they started fighting.
 
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