Kashmir, USA and India Nexus

[SSG_Commando]

Hi Guys, I believe we need to highlight the India - USA nexus:

• Ever since Pakistan started facilitating Afghan peace process the pressure from East has been immense. I am guessing USA is covertly approving every Indian strategy, starting from 26th of Feb.
• After Pakistani punishment of Indian forces on 27th, India did not stopped there, it continued warmongering
• On August 5 India abrogating article 370 and I firmly believe it was done in consultation with USA. USA and its allies were all on-board

Now question is why USA is covertly supporting India? Here is my deduction based on the knowledge of Lala's extreme cunningness and shrewdness

• There is a possible drawdown of USA forces in Afghanistan. Americans are sick of Afghan war which has costed them above 1 trillion USD. My assessment is that Indians have offered USA to station their troops and aircrafts in Indian occupied Kashmir (IOK). Mind you the close proximity to China, the USA basis in IOK is an ideal scenario
• USA is seriously taking China as existential threat. They want to undermine and cripple them with their full might. Effectively they want to encircle China
• IOK borders with China which are considered volatile for hostile forces i.e. Tibet and Uighurs
• USA may easily able to sandwich Chinese. They already have presence in Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Philippines. Moreover, they have considerable influence in Vietnam and South-east-Asian countries
• The IOK is already the most heavily militarised zone in the world. US will be effectively sitting in a bunker as Indian forces will guarantees security of US troops. IN return US will focus on launching convert operation in both China and Pak with little resistance
• It will be a confidence booster for the Indian forces. Lala will not like to fight Pakistan alone
• Considering all that, Pakistan will now be looking at very dangerous situation with threats far exceeding it can chew. It will have no option other than to accept defeat

By doing so I believe Indians can effectively checkmate both Pakistan and China

 

[khansaheeb]

The reason being is that after Afghanistan war is finished the Jihadists will turn their attention to Kashmir. India is trying desperately to subdue Kashmir and lock the door before the Americans pull out completely of Afghanistan. What Indians don't realise is that the Jihadists don't give up and will come knocking on their door soon to save the Kashmiris from the injustices they are suffering.

 

[Adonis]

Hi Guys, I believe we need to highlight the India - USA nexus:

• Ever since Pakistan started facilitating Afghan peace process the pressure from East has been immense. I am guessing USA is covertly approving every Indian strategy, starting from 26th of Feb.
• After Pakistani punishment of Indian forces on 27th, India did not stopped there, it continued warmongering
• On August 5 India abrogating article 370 and I firmly believe it was done in consultation with USA. USA and its allies were all on-board

Now question is why USA is covertly supporting India? Here is my deduction based on the knowledge of Lala's extreme cunningness and shrewdness

• There is a possible drawdown of USA forces in Afghanistan. Americans are sick of Afghan war which has costed them above 1 trillion USD. My assessment is that Indians have offered USA to station their troops and aircrafts in Indian occupied Kashmir (IOK). Mind you the close proximity to China, the USA basis in IOK is an ideal scenario
• USA is seriously taking China as existential threat. They want to undermine and cripple them with their full might. Effectively they want to encircle China
• IOK borders with China which are considered volatile for hostile forces i.e. Tibet and Uighurs
• USA may easily able to sandwich Chinese. They already have presence in Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Philippines. Moreover, they have considerable influence in Vietnam and South-east-Asian countries
• The IOK is already the most heavily militarised zone in the world. US will be effectively sitting in a bunker as Indian forces will guarantees security of US troops. IN return US will focus on launching convert operation in both China and Pak with little resistance
• It will be a confidence booster for the Indian forces. Lala will not like to fight Pakistan alone
• Considering all that, Pakistan will now be looking at very dangerous situation with threats far exceeding it can chew. It will have no option other than to accept defeat

By doing so I believe Indians can effectively checkmate both Pakistan and China

I too was thinking on the same lines. Just want to add more

Base can likely be in Ladakh....
Besides all of the above (your post), US will ensure closure of CPEC permanently.
Also, the base will facilitate CONOPS...nuclear device detection facility ( N Devices stored/located in Pakistan's north)

 

[Sine Nomine]

The reason being is that after Afghanistan war is finished the Jihadists will turn their attention to Kashmir. India is trying desperately to subdue Kashmir and lock the door before the Americans pull out completely of Afghanistan. What Indians don't relaise is that the Jihadists don't give up and will come knocking on their door soon to save the Kashmiris from the injustices they are suffering.

What makes you think like that?
They are fighting for 20 years non-stop,would like to rest after US leaves.

 

[khansaheeb]

What makes you think like that?
They are fighting for 20 years non-stop,would like to rest after US leaves.

Jihadists never rest against injustice.

 

[Avatar]

Non sense. Indians will never tolerate foreign soldiers operating on Indian soil in lieu of any benefits. We are a peace loving, prosperous nation and we have nothing to gain from compromising the integrity of our nation. We have faith in our forces and we are confident that the Indian armed forces are capable enough for our security needs. India is just a huge consumption market that no well wishing nation can afford to lose.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Jihadists never rest against injustice.

They are not one.

 

[Adonis]

Jihadists never rest against injustice.

Injustice based on their own Jihadi ideology. ISIS were also Jihadists and they are resting now....in their graves.

 

[khansaheeb]

Injustice based on their own Jihadi ideology. ISIS were also Jihadists and they are resting now....in their graves.

We are not talking about ISIS.

 

[خره مينه لګته وي]

USA will never go there to build a base

• Its disputed territory

• The Separatists/Freedom fighters who constantly attack Indian Occupational forces there & the same Attacks on USA forces there would negatively Effect The political landscape back in USA & Public will not like it one bit when they start hearing the News that their soldiers are getting killed there then political point scoring will start + Kashmir will start getting more coverage & Approval ratings for stationing troops there will go down in USA... then the Indian occupational Forces human Rights Violations plus curfews + Protests & Killings of innocent kashmiris will unnecessarily drag USA into the Mess then USA will have to Issue statements & start justifying the indian actions & not condemning the indians & then R@pes , tortures ... naah USA will never take that risk & its not going to happen lol..

• USA will not allow itself to be dragged to another Conflict by angering both China & Pakistan.

• USA can simply Build Bases in border with Indian Occupied Kashmir in Indian Punjab State, it will serve the exact purpose of strategic importance without dragging itself into disputed territory.

• india will not risk its trade with china for USA & It will give the Russians free hand to sell whatever military hardware Pakistan Wants...

• Reliable Veto Power (Russia) will switch its Side & wont take indian side in UN security council anymore...

• USA cannot be trusted even if you're a close ally - They'll bash you like the Donald Trump used to do with UK when theresaMay was ruling & then the threats & Economics blowbacks.

• Plus Pakistan will allow chinese To Build Its bases complicating things further More.

• India will be a Big Loser....

• although USA is ruled by Unpredictable guy but he isnt a fool like Hindutva Facists led by Modi to jump into another Conflict I.e disputed territory by angering both Pak & China... India is ruled by Facist nazis & the policy makers are idiots too + Sold out Army Chief who keep on dancing to RSS tunes, Army & Airforce has also become a political tools for RSS-BJP...

USA policy makers are not a fool.

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conclusion it wont happen. end of case

 

[SIPRA]

USA will never go there to build a base

• Its disputed territory

• The Separatists/Freedom fighters who constantly attack Indian Occupational forces there & the same Attacks on USA forces there would negatively Effect The political landscape back in USA & Public will not like it one bit when they start hearing the News that their soldiers are getting killed there then political point scoring will start + Kashmir will start getting more coverage & Approval ratings for stationing troops there will go down in USA... then the Indian occupational Forces human Rights Violations plus curfews + Protests & Killings of innocent kashmiris will unnecessarily drag USA into the Mess then USA will have to Issue statements & start justifying the indian actions & not condemning the indians & then R@pes , tortures ... naah USA will never take that risk & its not going to happen lol..

• USA will not allow itself to be dragged to another Conflict by angering both China & Pakistan.

• USA can simply Build Bases in border with Indian Occupied Kashmir in Indian Punjab State, it will serve the exact purpose of strategic importance without dragging itself into disputed territory.

• india will not risk its trade with china for USA & It will give the Russians free hand to sell whatever military hardware Pakistan Wants...

• Reliable Veto Power (Russia) will switch its Side & wont take indian side in UN security council anymore...

• USA cannot be trusted even if you're a close ally - They'll bash you like the Donald Trump used to do with UK when theresaMay was ruling & then the threats & Economics blowbacks.

• Plus Pakistan will allow chinese To Build Its bases complicating things further More.

• India will be a Big Loser....

• although USA is ruled by Unpredictable guy but he isnt a fool like Hindutva Facists led by Modi to jump into another Conflict I.e disputed territory by angering both Pak & China... India is ruled by Facist nazis & the policy makers are idiots too + Sold out Army Chief who keep on dancing to RSS tunes, Army & Airforce has also become a political tools for RSS-BJP...

USA policy makers are not a fool.

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conclusion it wont happen. end of case

Agree. Good analysis.

 

[newb3e]

even if usa pack bags moves to kashmir i dont thibk attacks will stop they will face china russia and pakistan sponsored taliban and mujahideens in kashmir not only america but indian forces will also become target i dont think banya wants their ram sehna to become target of armed mujahideens they are only good at fighting unarmed civilians