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Syed Ali Gilani arrested in Srinagar



Srinagar, June 12:In occupied Kashmir, the authorities arrested veteran Kashmiri Hurriyet leader, Syed Ali Geelani in Srinagar and shifted him to Humhama police station on Saturday.

The move was made following the killing of an 11th class student, Tufail Ahmed Matoo, by Indian police. Tufail was killed while dozens other people were injured when the police resorted to brute force to break up peaceful demonstrators in Srinagar on Friday.

Earlier, Syed Ali Geelani addressing a gathering at Ompora in Budgam said that the US should support the Kashmiris’ right to self-determination if it was sincere to resolve the Kashmir dispute. The veteran Hurriyet leader, while reacting to the US Assistant Secretary of State, Robert Black’s statement, said, “America should stress more on giving right to self-determination to Kashmiris than Indo-Pak dialogue.

He said that Kashmir was not a border dispute between Pakistan and India but it was an issue pertaining to the future of millions of Kashmiri people and the international community should support Kashmiris’ struggle for plebiscite instead of issuing ambiguous statements.

Syed Ali Geelani made it clear that the people of Kashmir had not given sacrifices for perks and packages. “Even if India lays gold on our roads it can’t heal our wounds. India has been exploiting our natural resources for the last 63-years,” he added.

The veteran Hurriyet leader warned India of dire consequences if the convict in a false case of parliament attack, Afzal Guru was hanged. “There will be such a public uprising in Kashmir which India will not be able to control if Guru is hanged,” he added.

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wtf he is talking abt afzal guru,parliament attack which is fake :cheesy::cheesy:,even guru accepted wat he had done.and this old guy is saying he is innocent.a lot of times video is shown on tv ,in which he is accepting the role.

pak people dont know still the families of the died soldiers come to mourn for those soldiers,and pray 4 his death sentence.
sooner or later he will be hanged.

 
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Hizbul militant surrenders

Srinagar, June 12 (PTI) A Hizbul Mujahideen militant trained in Pakistan today surrendered in Kupwara district of north Kashmir.

Abdul Majid Bhat surrendered before the army in Kupwara, 100 kms from here, police said.

Bhat had received training in Pakistan, they said.fullstory
 
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wtf he is talking abt afzal guru,parliament attack which is fake :cheesy::cheesy:,even guru accepted wat he had done.and this old guy is saying he is innocent.a lot of times video is shown on tv ,in which he is accepting the role.

pak people dont know still the families of the died soldiers come to mourn for those soldiers,and pray 4 his death sentence.
sooner or later he will be hanged.

you know what? If I put your @ss below the litter with the prediction of not less than 100s... You would prefer to say what I shall say you to say :sniper:

This is what Mr. Gillani intend to say. And this "old guy" has lot of respect within the people of Kashmir as well, the people you claim are your citizen. So give some respect to your citizen by not calling him "old guy" :flame:
 
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A bold initiative from ToI. The full page opinion peice / article appeared on Sunday 13-June-2010.

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UNDER SEIGE


In Iraq, there is 1 soldier for every 166 people. In Kashmir, there is 1 for every 20

July will mark 20 years of the controversial Armed Forces Special Powers Act in J&K. The people are angry the Army is still there. Is it time to start pulling out?






Rajat Pandit | TNN

No Army likes to wage war against its own people. Worse, if the fight drags on 20 years. The 1.13-million strong Indian Army is no exception. It would jump at the chance to leave the Valley and return to barracks, but only if policy-makers delivered their end of the bargain. Is the time right for this? Militancy in Jammu and Kashmir is at its lowest ebb since it erupted in 1989-1990. But there are two hurdles. First, will Pakistan’s real power centre, its army, turn off the terror tap? Second, can the paramilitary forces and J&K police take over from the Army? On both counts, the answer seems to be ‘no’.

“We are trapped in the ‘hold’ part of the ‘shape, clear, hold and build’ strategy,” says a lieutenant-general, with extensive experience in J&K, speaking on condition of anonymity. He adds gloomily, “We will be stuck there for the foreseeable future. With so much money being pumped in, vested interests have developed all around. A political solution, with economic development, is needed.”

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It has been an arduous task for the Army to ‘shape, clear and hold’ the internal security environment in J&K. Protracted counter-insurgency operations in J&K and the North-East have blunted its operational readiness for external enemies” and corroded its discipline and moral fabric. Last week’s suspension of a major and the removal of a colonel from command for an alleged fake encounter on April 30 is just the latest example of this. The Army has slowly moved away from using “kills” as the benchmark for evaluating a battalion’s performance for awards and citations, but the pressure to deliver results remains.

Consider cold statistics. More than 1,500 cases of human rights violations have been filed against the Army in the last two decades. Granted that a majority of them — the Army puts the figure at 97% — were found to be “fake or motivated” but what of the rest? The Army takes recourse to the iron-fisted Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) to refuse to hand the accused to civilian authorities. It says it has its own “internal mechanisms” to deal with “aberrations” under the Army Act, 1950.

“We have punished 104 personnel, including 40 officers, in the cases found true. We have made human rights a top-priority in last five-six years. But we cannot allow soldiers battling terrorists, which cannot be equated with normal law and order duties, to get no legal protection and be left to civilian courts in the event of something going wrong. It will hit troop morale,” says a senior officer.

General V K Singh, who took over as Army chief in April, has declared that “any dilution” in AFSPA will “impinge adversely on the manner in which armed forces operate” in counter-insurgency duties. Consequently, the Centre consistently refuses to give permission to the J&K government to prosecute soldiers accused of human rights violations. During 2007-2009, there were 23 such requests but the ministry of defence did not permit any one of them to go ahead.

This does not, of course, detract from the Army’s success in controlling militancy in J&K. Militancy is not quite dead. Pakistan may be acting against the Taliban on account of US pressure but it has let the anti-India terror factory remain active. There are at least 32 terrorist training camps, with an estimated 2,200 militants, operational in Pakistan and ***. Unsurprisingly, the Army contends no one should rush to assume all is well in J&K.

According to estimates, there are just about 500-600 hardcore terrorists — half of them of “foreign origin” — in J&K at present. They still pose a threat, but it is marked reduction on the numbers — more than 2,500 — bandied about in the 1990s.

“With the CRPF (which has around 70,000 troops in J&K) and police forces still not really trained or equipped for the swift operations required, coupled with their poor leadership, any largescale de-induction of Army troops will only weaken the counter-insurgency grid,” says a Rashtriya Rifles officer. “Whenever the Army has been removed from an area the militants and their over-ground workers begin to dominate there.”

Defence minister A K Antony also believes that the terrorist threat remains very real. “The quantum of troops deployed in J&K is continuously assessed and reviewed by the Army based on the changing threat perception,” he says. The Army has moved two mountain divisions of around 35,000 men from the state in the last few years but further reduction can only happen when conflict management turns to conflict resolution.

Life in the shadow of gun


M Saleem Pandit | TNN

Srinagar: Till 1990, there were few guns in the Valley. But, soon enough, the situation changed. As the Kalashnikovs began to dominate the streets, Kashmir was flooded with uniformed men. In the last 20 years, a generation of Kashmiris has grown up with soldiers at every street corner; often, even in their living rooms. There are too many troops in Kashmir. There have been too many clashes between men with automatics and youth with stones. Many Kashmiris see the Army as one “of occupation”.


Human rights activist Khurram Parvez says the police records 458 cases of pending civilian killings and rapes between 1990 and 2007 because the men in uniform cannot be prosecuted. “We want transparent and independent investigations into many encounters that took place in April-May 2010,” he says.

Arshad Anderabi has spent 14 years fighting for justice for his dead brother Jaleel, a lawyer and prominent human rights activist. He alleges that Jaleel “was abducted by the major (Avtar Singh of the 103rd unit of the Territorial Army) on the airport road when he was driving home along with his wife. He was killed in cold blood and his body was dumped in the Jhelum”. The special investigation team that investigated Jaleel’s death found Major Singh responsible for the murder. But the major is now reportedly living in California and Jaleel’s family still waits for justice.

Though the Indian army has been in the Valley since 1948, its presence was never as visible as after militancy began. K B Jandial, retired IAS officer and now a member of the state public service commission, says, “The army must put in place a system of checks and balances and rein in the troops who take the law into their own hands. This has diluted the forces’ achievement of almost destroying terrorism. Irresponsible actions of low rung-officers will harm India’s credentials as a democratic and secular nation.”

There seem to be far too many Kashmiris who believe the Indian army is a ruthless force. Javid Iqbal, a respected doctor, says there is a huge trust deficit between the people and the army. “During the second world war, Churchill would often say ‘Indian Army any day’. That was a real tribute to the discipline and combat effectiveness of the forces. However, I wonder whether this attribute still holds for the army given the recent complaints of human rights violation.”

The police says that there have been 51 allegations of rape against Indian army men in the last six years. Such allegations are deeply damaging to the army’s image. In 1991, about 100 women, including minors, the elderly, pregnant and disabled, were allegedly raped by a 4th Rajputana Rifles unit in Kunan Poshpora, Kupwara. “I am afraid that army could never restore its image in Kashmir given their behaviour with civilians here,” says Qurat-ul-Ain, a social activist.

Of late, the army has been working on damage control through its humanitarian work. Colonel J S Brar, the defence spokesman here, says the Army is trying to win hearts and minds. “Under our Sadbavana programme, we are trying to alleviate, medicate, rejuvenate and ultimately uplift the quality of life of civilian population ,” he says. But considering the quantum of allegations against the army, many of the locals would regard this as too little and too late.




LAST WORD


An Act that defies the law?



Josy Joseph | TNN




Contrary to popular belief, India does not have an impressive record of ending insurgency. One result of this messy reality is that the draconian Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) exists in several parts of the country. It gives legal permission to the military to arrest or conduct a midnight search without a warrant on the basis of reasonable suspicion.

Most statistical studies show that civil wars in the last century lasted a little over seven years on average. The shortest may have run for just a few days; the longest more than 30 years, according to trends in recent World Bank-funded studies. These findings were mostly based on the African experience, but the global measure of insurgencies isn’t very different. Civil wars that began before 1980 lasted 78 months or thereabouts, but those that started after 1980 had a longer lifespan of roughly 105 months. What of India’s record? It has been disturbingly poor. The Naga issue has been festering from before Independence, Kashmir since 1987, Manipur is on fire yet again and Assam hasn’t really been at peace for three decades. And Naxalism has risen from the ashes, with its deadly challenge to the state, unleashing a violence that devours more than a hundred lives a month.

Punjab and Mizoram are the most prominent of India’s few successes in ending insurgency. But they are the exceptions.

Even though the security forces, especially the military, have shown impressive ability in containing insurgency, the political leadership generally lets the status quo prevail rather than transforming the containment into permanent peace. This lack of political capability is now forcing the army to resist major troop reduction in Kashmir, despite a drop in violence. The Union home ministry had suggested the army move some of its Rashtriya Rifles battalions from J&K to Naxaliteridden areas, but the Army, as a senior officer explains, has “contained the violence in Kashmir, and our security grid is working very effectively. What guarantee is there that permanent peace would be achieved in Kashmir, and that we won’t need to go back to manage a messed up situation?”

Many within the security establishment believe New Delhi has failed to grasp the opportunity to create a lasting peace in Kashmir. As a result, the people of J&K are soon to complete two decades under AFSPA’s menacing shadow. In Nagaland, the act has been in existence since 1958, when it was first enacted by Parliament to contain Naga dissidence. It exists in the entire state of Assam since 1980, in all of Manipur outside Imphal municipal limits, in the hill districts of Tripura, in Arunachal Pradesh’s Tirap and Changlang districts and in a 20-km belt bordering Assam, and along another 20-KM belt of Meghalaya bordering Assam.

Army officers insist that the legal protection offered by AFSPA is crucial to their success and is a prerequisite for anti-Naxal operational deployment. “It is necessary not to treat soldiers as mere policemen. The legal protection empowers them to act with far better determination. The results are there to be seen,” says a senior army officer.

Imposition of AFSPA is invariably accompanied by a huge surge of military and paramilitary forces. Both reflect the state’s determination to facilitate the military containment of insurgency. Estimates vary, but the army’s Jammu-based 16 corps was, at one time, bigger than the British army. This, despite there being two other corps in the state as well. There are no specific numbers available, but around 5,00,000 security personnel are believed to be deployed in J&K, which has a population of just over one crore. That is a skewed security personnel to civilian population ratio and it gets worse in the Kashmir Valley.

But the Indian state’s inability to grab the admittedly slim opportunities for peace is not limited to J&K. Forgotten battles are raging across the northeast. As a result, generations have grown up with a distorted sense of liberty and democracy in several states. To them, India is an illiberal democracy, defined by the military man’s right to open fire on crowds, search houses and individuals and control people’s daily lives using the authority that comes from the law of the land, aka the Armed Forces Special Powers Act.




Women can win the war on war



Madhu Kishwar




Amid reports that the Americans are using female marines in Afghanistan to gain access to local women and thereby swing the population to their side, there are suggestions that India could do the same in Kashmir. But, recruiting a few women to control human rights abuses in Kashmir would be like applying band-aid to a deeply-infected wound. Kashmir requires a political solution, not a military one. Band-aid solutions evoke disdain rather than inspire confidence.

Human rights are violated when those in positions of power feel they can get away with murder. The Indian Army is highly professional. However, by enacting draconian laws such as the Armed Forces Special Powers Act that give blanket immunity, their professionalism is compromised. They lead to fake encounter killings as a means to career advancement. In such a situation putting a few women soldiers on the streets is not likely to win over many hearts in Kashmir.

The image and conduct of our police has not improved with the recruitment of a handful of women because the overall mandate of the police as an institution is firmly set in the colonial mould. The culture of these organizations places a premium on macho qualities. Women are numerically insignificant and far removed from leadership positions. Therefore, instead of feminizing the culture of these institutions, women tend to emulate men as a survival strategy. Many women who work in the forces in junior positions have experienced sexual abuse and harassment without effective redress. Those who are unable to defend their own dignity are not likely to be able to sensitize the overall orientation of the Army.

However old fashioned it may sound, I still firmly believe in Mahatma Gandhi’s vision that in the war against war women must lead — they must teach the art of peace to a warring world. Gandhi’s success lay in convincing large sections of India that societies become civilized only when men imbibe some of positive feminine qualities, such as nurturing and revulsion towards violence.
At present, the Army is overstretched and fatigued as it battles the civilian population for whom the presence of the armed forces is itself an annoying reminder of their “subjugation”. Our officers are becoming increasingly resentful at being made to pay for the follies and mischief of politicians. Their role must be limited to defending the borders and ensuring that terrorists from neighbouring countries don’t sneak into India.

Knowledgeable people within the government admit that, as in Punjab, the terrorist threat in Kashmir can be best countered by a well-trained, highly-motivated, self-respecting and accountable J&K police. This can happen only if the police are freed from political interference. The Centre should join hands with the state government and use J&K as a laboratory for far-reaching police reforms. If 35 to 40% of this reformed police service comprised women, their presence would further humanize the law and order machinery. When the citizens of the state feel they are trusted and responsible for maintaining internal security, they are bound to rise to the occasion because they have the highest stake in peace.

Kashmiri society has been brutalized due to the devious games of successive political leaders in legitimizing the gun culture. However, when in 2002 Mufti Mohammad Sayeed emerged in his new PDP avatar with the slogan: “Na bandook se, na goli se, Baat banegi boli se”, Kashmiris, young and old, responded with enthusiasm. This is evident in the dramatic rise in voter turnout since PDP joined the electoral fray. The romance with the Pakistani militants’ gun is all but over. The Kashmir problem requires that the Central Government also act with the conviction that na banddok se na goli se, baat banegi boli se.

Cosmetic changes to the Army’s image cannot be a substitute for determined efforts to find a political solution acceptable to diverse sections of Kashmiri society. People will have faith in “boli” only when it is backed by a responsive polity and a government that has the ability to deliver what it promises.

Madhu Kishwar is editor of Manushi
 
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So... let me get this right...

Pakistani agencies are forcing local Kashmiri people to serve as guides for the anti-India mujahideen forces and those local Kashmiris who refuse to follow their orders are abducted?!

And this article clearly points out that because of Pakistan's repeated attempts to infiltrate militants into Indian Kashmir, people in Neelam Valley are suffering the most. Just look at the people of Athmuqam town protesting against militant activity.

And this is the same Pakistan which claims to be fighting for the "cause of Kashmir".
 
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Petition seeking setting-aside of GB Order, 2009 filed in SC

ISLAMABAD, (SANA): A petition under article 184 (3) of the Constitution has been filed in the Supreme Court for setting aside Gilgit-Baltistan (Empowerment & Self-Governance) Order, 2009.

Shaukat Aziz Siddique, the counsel for petitioner Mir Tariq Mehmood, besides raising several questions and objections over above order held adopted a stance that area of Gilgit-Baltistan (Northern Area) is part of disputed territory like AJ & K and Indian held Kashmir.

“By declaring and treating Gilgit & Baltistan as a province of Pakistan would exclude this area of 100% Muslims population from the disputed territory and population of this area shall be deprived to take part in the plebiscite to be held under the resolution No. 13/1948 passed by the United Nations,” Siddique argued.

He further said that any area that does not come within the meaning of territory as envisaged under Article 1 (2) (d) of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan cannot be declared and administered as territory of Pakistan.

He prayed that the Order, 2009 and all the steps taken in pursuance of the same including appointment of Dr. Shama Khalid, Governor Gilgit Baltistan, Syed Mehdi Shah, Chief Minister Gilgit Baltistan, Justice (R) Muhammad Nawaz Abbasi, Chief Justice, are illegal, unlawful, unprecedented, against all norms of justice, mandate of the constitution, dictums of the superior courts of the country, international law resolution of United Nation, political, moral and consistent stand of Pakistani nation and residents of the area, void ab initio, ineffective upon the rights of the petitioner and other residents, bad law which is liable to be set-aside.

Giving brief facts about the area, senior advocate of the Supreme Court Shaukat Aziz Siddique said that it is an admitted fact in the historical perspective that northern areas now termed as “Gilgit Baltistan” (herein after referred to as the area) was neither part of India nor any other country at the time of independence of Pakistan from British rule.

He added in the year 1947, the status of this area, Azad Kashmir and Indian Held Kashmir was to be determined in accordance with the aspirations of the local population.

“It was move of the Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Lal Nehru himself to present the matter before United Nations and it was resolved through resolution No. 13/1948 (herein after called as the resolution) by the United Nations that a plebiscite shall be held in these areas under the auspices of United Nations through which population of these areas was to decide about their future, therefore, any step taken in violation of this longstanding and historical stance is detrimental to the Kashmir cause,” the petition recalled.

It is relevant to mention here that Gilgit and Baltistan, known as Northern Areas, presently consist of 7 districts, a population approaching 1.5 million, an area of approximately 28000 sq. miles and shares borders with Pakistan, China, Afghanistan and India. The government of Pakistan took administrative control of the area as back as 1949.
 
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The "difference" is that the people of AJK dont mind the army being around ,while the people in IOK do mind the army being around......you dont get large groups of paramilitary-military people roaming the streets with guns in AJK trying to suppress the people.
Likewise the people support the freedom fighters and after all it about what the people want.

I actually ended up reading a bit on the geographic positions of these two areas of Kashmir and found that the Pakistani contention that they can cause India a lot of damage with itself taking very little damage to be very untrue. My study of the Line of Control suggests that Indian Army can shell and devastate the whole of Neelum valley in Pakistan overnight, if it so wishes (and my research says that they have done it in the past). Apparently Pakistan uses Neelum Valley as the launching pad for cross border militants or terrorists or whatever because of the rough terrain and the Indian Army has actually shelled whole towns in this valley. I am not sure how many Pakistanis know this but certain towns in the Neelum valley have been completely devastated by the IA shelling, so much so that the valley's people are dead against helping out Pakistan's intelligence agencies from using their folks as cannon fodder. This research was news to me as having read the arguments here, I thought that IA had no leverage over launching pads in Pakistani part of Kashmir. That turned out to be grossly untrue.
 
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Only 500 militants active in Kashmir: State police chief:partay:

Only about 500 insurgents, about 40 percent of them foreign militants, are still active in Jammu and Kashmir and peace is not far from the troubled state with a steep drop in violence in the last three years, says state police chief Kuldeep Khoda.

“There are about 500 militants presently active in Jammu and Kashmir and their number has come down from 700-800 last year and around 1,000 in 2008,” Khoda told IANS in Delhi where he had come for an official function.

The police chief said 40 percent of these militants were foreigners, mostly from Pakistan and Pakistan-administered Kashmir.

He said the Hizbul Mujahideen and the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) - the terror outfits that have bases in Pakistan - were active in the state.

“The Hizbul Mujahideeen is more in a supportive role to the LeT but it depends on the plans conceived across (the border),” he said.

Khoda said the overall security scenario in Jammu and Kashmir was improving and there was a drop in violence in the last three years.

“There was a 20 percent drop in violence in 2007 which improved to 28 percent in 2008 and 30 percent in 2009,” he said.

The last year, Khoda added, also saw the lowest number of civilian deaths in militancy-related incidents.

According to official data, a little less than 500 terror incidents were reported in 2009 in which 239 militants, 71 civilians and 79 security personnel were killed. In 2008, 339 militants, 91 civilians and 85 security personnel were killed in 708 militancy incidents.

“We are on the right course,” Khoda said, hoping the “violence will come down” further in the future.

However, he maintained that there was no let-up in incursion attempts by militants from across the border with security forces.

“Infiltration is going on though not to the extent as it was last year. Going by the (infiltration) bids made, there is no change in attitude of handlers across the border who want to push in infiltrators,” he said.

According to the police chief, security forces had been able to curb militant incursion mainly due to better border management.

Khoda said Pakistan continued to support militant activities in Jammu and Kashmir. “Terrorists are coming or attempts are being made to infiltrate and they are getting training, equipment, funding… Militants trying to cross over do not face obstructions from Pakistani security forces but were, instead, provided covering fire.

“All this points to the direct role (of the Pakistan establishment),” he said, adding that Pakistan was not adhering to its commitment of not allowing its soil to be used for anti-India activities.

“They do not adhere to it. Nothing is visible on the ground.”

Only 500 militants active in Kashmir: State police chief
 
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Rising Kashmir, Daily Newspaper, Srinagar Jammu and Kashmir - Bla stone throwers call truce; Police welcomes

Baramulla, June 11: Angry over the remark of Hurriyat Conference that they had identified some stone throwers in Baramulla who were backed by government agencies, stone throwers in Baramulla town Friday decided to shun stone pelting.

The stone throwers called upon media persons at old bridge in Baramulla town on Friday and told them that they would not indulge in stone pelting nor follow any programme of the Hurriyat Conference.

“The Hurriyat has disgraced us with such remarks. Our innocent youth are detained by police and no one speaks for them,” the stone pelters said.

They said, earlier Hurriyat backed stone pelting and termed it as only tool of resistance. “Now they ridicule it for reasons only known to them.”

They said in future they would boycott programmes of Hurriyat Conference.

However, they said they would continue their resistance until police set arrested youth free.

According to them, police had arrested over a dozen youth during past few days and charged them for pelting stones.

Meanwhile, speaking to Rising Kashmir, Senior Superintendent Police (SSP) Baramulla Sheikh Mahmood assured full cooperation to the youth who decided to shun the path of stone pelting.

He said police would provide full legal support to all of them as they had realised what was right and what was wrong.

“I ensure full legal support to them and even the condition they have set of freeing the arrested youth. I will try my best to release the detained youth held under Public Safety Act,” the SSP said.
 
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I guess the money for the stones must have dried up...and hey its business..no body does it for free...
 
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Looks like 499 left :)

Militant killed in encounter in north Kashmir - Yahoo! India News

Wed, Jun 16 07:26 PM
Srinagar, June 16 (PTI) A militant was killed in an encounter with security forces in Kupwara district of north Kashmir, police said today. The gun battle took place yesterday at Gujjar Pati Zaloora area near Daroosas forest, 120 kms from here, they said, adding a jawan was also injured.

One AK 47 rifle, four magazine, 119 rounds, a wireless set, a hand grenade, a compas, three mobile phones besides some clothing items and medicines were recovered from the spot, police said.
 
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I think time is right to free Kashmiris and not just Kashmiris but all the Muslims in India. Indians should seriously start thinking about a second partition and free all muslims.

Who will do it? If it were ever to be done, why was it not done in the past? Does anyone like to do partition to his country just like that? The Hindus couldn't give separate representation to the Muslims in the parliament. How can they give a separate state to the Muslims? If Nehru would have listened Jinnah, all this chaos wouldn't happen from the start altogether. India would have been the biggest country, with largest population, richest resources and would have been a Super power exceeding the Americans and Chineese in all matters.

The problem can only be solved when a third party, (revolutionary party) comes in power and kills all politicians of India, Pakistan and BanglaDesh.
 
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Is the concern for Kashmir or Kashmiri people or Kashmiri Muslims? If its for Kashmiri Muslims, you can open the flood gates, like how the US did with Cuba in the eighties!? what say yo!? Let the Harassing Indian Army be here in Kashmir. Take the Kashmiri Muslims!

I am not against other Indian muslims here. But I fail to understand where the sympathies of the Pakistanis are! Is it with the Kashmiris? If so, why isnt there an iota of respect for Kashmiri Pundits or for the land ceded to China? Or is it for the Muslim Brethren? If so why isnt there even a hint of mewing for the Chinese Uighurs!

If the issue is for the disputed Land of Kashmir, stop the rhetoric of being the Saviours of Kashmiri Muslims. If the issue is supposedly for the Muslim brothers only in disputed areas, where the vested interest is with the land, make the point clear that this a policy of fomenting trouble by stirring religious sentiments in a disputed area so as to make the other party of the dispute uncomfortable.
 
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