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[KS]

don't worry. I welcome the news.

It'll only cause more resentment in Srinagar; we already saw what's been brewing in Shopian, when those 2 teenage Muslim girls were raped and killed needlessly by we-know-who.

we-know-who...

who..?

 

[karan.1970]

these country'men' of yours on our forum seem to advocate some pretty brutal tactics against him

what gives




Pakistani/Kashmiris are not under constant curfews; not being strip-searched on daily basis for no reason.

Actually Pakistani Kashmir is fairly autonomous, they have their own functioning government and administration. There is always room for improvement since our country is far from perfect, but they have their rights and are much better off then their bretheren under occupation across the LoC. For that, I am certain

Your being certain of correctness of your claims doesnt mean too much is a debate.. Specially when a lot of international observers liek Baroness Emma Nicholson from EU dont agree with your claims...

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

we-know-who...

who..?

depends who you ask......indians were saying that they drowned. That claim was later rubbished after autopsy was carried out

now there are people 13 people — including six doctors — for "destroying evidence and creating disturbances" in the state by claiming that the women were raped and murdered by security personnel

massive coverup, and the families of the girls got no justice

this is the reason why many Kashmiris resort to bearing arms and openly fighting the indian presence in their lands

 

[indian_warrior]

JK police, cut his balls immediately and stop terrorist breading

 

[riju78]

Srinagar: Controversial seminar organiser arrested

The organiser of a seminar in Srinagar has been arrested in connection with his plans to playout recorded speeches of terrorists Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar on Kashmir issue.

Along with him, Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) leader, Javed Ahmed Mir, has also been arrested.

The leaders of both factions of the Hurriyat, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, Syed Ali Shah Geelani and Yasin Malik have been invited to the seminar.

Hizbul chief Saeed Salahuddin and some *** based Hurriyat leaders are also likely to give tele-addresses.

As a standard rule, no meeting espousing a secessionist cause is allowed under the law. So the state police is authorised to make preventive arrests.

Srinagar: Controversial seminar organiser arrested

well done J&K police
JAI HIND

 

[KS]

depends who you ask......indians were saying that they drowned. That claim was later rubbished after autopsy was carried out

now there are people 13 people — including six doctors — for "destroying evidence and creating disturbances" in the state by claiming that the women were raped and murdered by security personnel

massive coverup, and the families of the girls got no justice

this is the reason why many Kashmiris resort to bearing arms and openly fighting the indian presence in their lands

ok let us assume that they were raped..[even though a CBI enquiry found out the opposite]...wat is the guarentee that they were raped oly by the security forces..?are there any eye witness.?
Cant any other Kashmiri youth done that and put the spread rumour to put the blame on the security forced so that he can escape..?

 

[mr42O]

Kashmir belongs to Pakistan and we will take it back and Indians know that . Thats why they have not managed to held election so Kashmiri ppl can chose as Pakistan and India agreed about in UN.

 

[EjazR]

Police arrest rights activist in Kashmir - Arab News

SRINAGAR: Police on Wednesday arrested a rights activist for inviting Pakistan-based leaders of insurgent groups to address by telephone a conference in the Indian portion of Kashmir.

The insurgent leaders invited to speak were Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, a founder of the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba group, whom India accuses of masterminding the 2008 commando-style assault in Mumbai that killed 166 people, and Syed Salahuddin, chairman of an umbrella group United Jihad Council.

Police raided the conference hall in a Srinagar hotel an hour before it was to begin and arrested Ahsan Untoo, chairman of Human Rights Forum Jammu-Kashmir, said Farooq Ahmed, a top police officer.

Srinagar is the main city in the Indian portion of Kashmir.

Ahmed said Untoo was arrested for supporting and promoting the ideology of insurgent leader Saeed. “It's unacceptable,” he said.

Police also detained four others including Javaid Ahmed Mir, a senior separatist leader.

Untoo said the police action violated his right of freedom of expression as he had organized the conference to discuss unity among separatist groups.

“They (Saeed and Salahuddin) were not the only people to speak, but guests included top human rights defenders and separatist leaders from our side of Kashmir as well,” Untoo told reporters as the police took him away.

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A "human rights seminar" with key note address from Hafiz Saeed and Syed Salahuddin the head of UJC, Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Masood Azhar the same person suspected of being involved in the killing of Daniel Pearl and surprise surprise Hamid Gul!
That's like Hakimullah Mehsud giving a speech on a human rights seminar in Lahore.

It is easy to note that at many times mass rallies have been organized by Mirwaiz and other separatist leaders and not stopped from doing so.

Interestingly

 

[flanker30]

Kashmir belongs to Pakistan and we will take it back and Indians know that . Thats why they have not managed to held election so Kashmiri ppl can chose as Pakistan and India agreed about in UN.

whole pakistan belongs to india,but we don't want that and kashmir will not move,it's ur wish to understand this or not

 

[BJlaowai]

Dude, u need to know first whats normal in pakistan rather than what is normal in India...better check out the separatist movement in baluchistan,bangladesh and even pakistan occupied kashmir and how they are/were suppressed.....

Add Lal Masjid to that list.
That was for a few square meter so of encroached land. J&K is millions of times bigger.

 

[EjazR]

APHC (M) leader for Joint management of Kashmir

SRINAGAR, APR 14 : Prof Abdul Gani Bhat, senior leader of Hurriyat Conference (M), today said he will be soon coming up with a new document for the settlement of Kashmir issue.

Speaking to Kashmir Times, Bhat said, "I have prepared a new Document - Self Governance - and I will present it to the Kashmiris,
Pakistan and India once the things calm down.”

Stating that his "self governance" document can help a long way in the settlement of the issue the Hurriyat (M) leader said, "I have framed the document in such a judicious way that it may help in resolving the long pending issue if implemented.”

Explaining the document to Kashmir Times, he said, "The document stands on four points which include complete demilitarisation of the
state, opening of all the roads linking Kashmir to Pakistan , joint management and irrelevant borders.”

The Hurriyat (M) leader viewed that the demilitarisation will ensure a sense of security among the masses after which all the roads should be thrown open.

"The opening of the roads will help boost the trade between the two countries leading to the economic development of not only India and
Pakistan but of the entire South Asia," he said.

Demilitarisation and opening of roads, Bhat said should be followed by declaring the Line of Control (LoC) as irrelevant.

"The mountaineous terrain between India and Pakistan should not be called (LoC) or international border but should be of no relevance which will ensure good relationship between the two countries," he said.

The Hurriyat (M) leader said the declaration of the irrelevance of borders should be followed by the joint management. "The joint management which should comprise of the members from India , Pakistan and both sides of Kashmir will jointly solve the common issues like tourism, water, power etc," he added.

On comparing his document with that of PDP’s "self rule" in terms of the similarity in demands, Bhat said, "There may be some similar
demands in PDP’s self rule and my self governance, but the two are not similar in totality. The biggest difference is that self rule has
been framed within the ambit of Indian constitution which is not the case with mine," Bhat stated.

However, he was quick to add that he will support Mufti Mohammad Sayeed PDP patron where his views are similar to him. Stating that all the three parties India, Pakistan and Kashmir have to offer sacrifices for the settlement of the dispute, Bhat said, "Any issue is resolved only through the dialogue but on the negotiation table all those involved in the process have to avoid being rigid. They have to be ready to offer sacrifice one way or the other. If all the three parties will remain tough on their stand then nothing will come out because to gain something you need to sacrifice something.”

 

[Avatar]

Kashmir belongs to Pakistan and we will take it back and Indians know that . Thats why they have not managed to held election so Kashmiri ppl can chose as Pakistan and India agreed about in UN.

It was Pakistan who did not let the UN election happen and it was Pakistan who invaded Kashmir.

The bold part was quite a revelation. Some Indians are not even aware that 1/3 of Kashmir is occupied by Pakistan

 

[makikirkiri]

the only reason for that plebiscite not having taken place is your country.
Some pakistanis are so enthusiastic in spreading lies and throwing warnings in a forum.If you guys really have that big balls why not go and take what you deem as yours.By telling the same lie a hundred times and opening 1000 threads you can't make a lie truth.
Peace

 

[naved_kam]

Public rallies, protests, free speech and democratic values, should all be abolished and banned in Kashmir. No plebiscite, no voting, no dissent and other anti-India and pro-liberation should be tolerated in Kashmir.

Afterall, these piss poor kashmirs are a national threat to India. You kno' they been waging war and been invading India since partition with ak47s and sticks n stones. They been behind all sorts of political and economical and social collapses and turmoils in India. they're the biggest threat to India's soverignity and want to some day capture and rule India. 700k pansy soldiers are clearly not enough, I'd say move in a few million soldiers and kill em all kashmiris at once, and replace 'em with the Hindu's and Dalits and the progeny of Hari Singh, the imperialists imposter; the rightful owners of Kashmir.

Do not start quoting the plight of Kashmiris to futher Pakistan's nefarious agendas. The soldiers that you all "Pansy" are not bombing their own countrymen from several thousand feet in the air or shelling their homes from several kilometers away. They have the balls to be on the ground and carry out neutralizing operations against your cronies to ensure that normal citizens do not suffer from the operations. So better think twice before you call Indian soldiers and security forces Pansy while your soldiers are epitomes of recklessness and cowardice.

To the topic now:

It is extremely important for the J&K police to ensure that such Pakistan funded henchmen are not allowed to disrupt normal life anymore than they have already done.

If this "Human rights activist" has any gall worth the cause that he fakes to espouse then he should take up the matter when these terrorists are killing innocent babies by shooting them in the head or raping Kashimiri women mercilessly. No one has hurt the lives of innocent Kashmiris more than your Army and ISI who think of themselves as great strategists while sending your trained illiterate killing hands to India to murder innocent people and disrupt normal public life. The only thing between the reign of terror that you want to impose and the hope of normal life for the Kashmiris is the J&K police and Indian security forces.

Otherwise, you would have turned that beautiful place also in to another Kandhar or Kabul of the Taliban era.

I will not even compare anything happening in Kashmir with what you are doing to similiar people in your tribal areas. You bomb them impertinently from Jets!!!!!!!! There is not a single iota of human consideration in your war plans. The number of murders that you allow your forces to get away with in the garb of "collateral damage" will probably have no parrellel in human history.

No Sir, we will ensure that your designs for Kashmir will never be successful. We will put feet on the ground and arrest such people irrespective of the risk to the Indian security forces because it is neither our overt or covert plan to absorb / allow civilian deaths as collateral damage. No matter what it takes. But of course, that should be evident to each and every of your wargames generals by now.

If the police have arrested this dumbhead, there must be relevant laws under which to execute the arrest. He should be given a fair trial and put through the justice system to ensure that truth and law prevails.

 

[naved_kam]

Kashmir belongs to Pakistan and we will take it back and Indians know that . Thats why they have not managed to held election so Kashmiri ppl can chose as Pakistan and India agreed about in UN.

That is something that only you have been taught by your favorite uncle Zia along with other information such as Pakistanis did not do any atrocities in Bangladesh & India is the poorest nation in the world while Pakistan is doing very well & "Aurangzeb was a peace loving ruler whose favorite past time was weaving" (could not even get an original past time and had to pick it away from our old man = M.K Gandhi).

The rest of the world reads a different history and knows that India holds regular elections in all our states and in fact in the last Assembly and Parliamentary elections in J&K the turnout was so high that the separatists & their controllers in your GHQ were completely baffled. We know that truth when newly revealed takes some time to settle in like a lot of other truths are settling in about your education system. You will come around to understand this one too.

But all in good time....... we have lots of it.... how much do you have?