Kashmir | News & Discussions.

[Tuahaa]

i dont know what you think of our country because the we feel secular because our last president was a Muslim whom we feel great off our present prime minister is a Sikh

Ok cool... now what about those princely states? They had a lot to do with religion.

 

[unicorn148]

Please tell me why India took Junagadh even though its prince said that he wanted to be with Pakistan?

Okay, fine, take all other princely states that said they want to be with Pakistan (you already did)- but Kashmir is ours on that term.

can you tell me other than Junagadh which princely states wanted to be with Pakistan
In the case of Junagadh its was all Hindus and Pakistan was an Islamic nation so to prevent any communal riots it was annexed into India . If Pakistan was secular then India would have not annexed it

 

[Spring Onion]

India is trying this since 47. So better come up with some human resolution

 

[unicorn148]

We never tried to crush the Kashmir movement .Kashmir was peaceful until Pakistan sponcered terrorism entered it .If there were no terrorism there would be no army personals on the streets of Kashmir
Its you people who are degrading the face of Muslims by starting Terrorism in the whole world .Even now anywhere in the world an Incident happens its the Muslims there who suffer the most

 

[riCoh]

India is trying this since 47. So better come up with some human resolution

Correction.

It all started in 1989, when your so called mujahideen came and started killing kashmiris.

 

[riju78]

India is trying this since 47. So better come up with some human resolution

jana ji why was kashmir peaceful till 1989?????

 

[Spring Onion]

And Kashmir was almost entirely Muslim but was given to India... same situation

Kashmir was not given to India. Infact Kashmiris were NEVER ask what they want.

The India forced the mahraja to sign joining India as condition to send its forces to defend Kashmir against rebellion.

 

[Spring Onion]

jana ji why was kashmir peaceful till 1989?????

Kashmiris were always protesting. They are still protesting peacefully why Indian terrorist army/police fire and kill them ???

 

[unicorn148]

Kashmiris were always protesting. They are still protesting peacefully why Indian terrorist army/police fire and kill them ???

kashmiris were never protesting until the so called Pakistan terrorists entered India If you have any news of protests before 1989 you can post it

 

[RollingStones]

Because it has not adjoining border with India and Mr Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan wasnt that popular enough either. Why is Junagarth with india which asked to join Pakistan??

So, I have a question: Why did Muslims in India not move to Pakistan during partition? Also, as a corollary, the Muslims not moving to Pakistan defeats the idea of Pakistan itself?? That means, if there was a referendum today, it would mean that a large percentage of sub continental Muslims would have tossed out the idea of Pakistan??

Also, an interesting question arises: in a combined Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, would Muslims have been in the majority or at least equal partners?? what would have happened then to governance?? Interesting issues, indeed.

 

[arihant]

So, I have a question: Why did Muslims in India not move to Pakistan during partition? Also, as a corollary, the Muslims not moving to Pakistan defeats the idea of Pakistan itself?? That means, if there was a referendum today, it would mean that a large percentage of sub continental Muslims would have tossed out the idea of Pakistan??

Also, an interesting question arises: in a combined Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, would Muslims have been in the majority or at least equal partners?? what would have happened then to governance?? Interesting issues, indeed.

It would have been around 40%. So just around becoming equal.

 

[riju78]

Kashmiris were always protesting. They are still protesting peacefully why Indian terrorist army/police fire and kill them ???

Let me ask again..why was there no trouble in kashmir till 1989??

 

[gubbi]

Kashmir was not given to India. Infact Kashmiris were NEVER ask what they want.

The India forced the mahraja to sign joining India as condition to send its forces to defend Kashmir against rebellion.

Well, nothing's for free now, is it?

 

[Spring Onion]

Wow earlier Deoband was created by Britishers and now they are run by Hindus.. amazing. Anyways this institution has entry to your Karachi, Lahore and Faisalabad.

This institution speaks for what is truth. It earlier opposed concept of Pakistan as Islam prohibits creation of any separate nation based on religion and they are same reiterating now as well.

They should first work for the betterment of Indian Muslims. An institution that has failed to defend the faith for which it is claiming to work, is not worth listening to atleast on Kashmir.

2. Deobandis were created for giving rise to fitnas among Muslims and thats what these deobandis are doing.

3. Islam prohibits continuing living under tyrants and Islam also calls for speaking against injustices NOT to support these injustices which this Deobandi Indian mulla is doing.

His speaking on behalf of an invader country and supporting the killers exposes his credibility. He in NO way represents Islam.

He is representing Hindu India.

BTW Islam in itself represent a separate Nation.

and yeah these Indian deobandis are spreading militancy in Pakistan since long.

 

[Spring Onion]

So, I have a question: Why did Muslims in India not move to Pakistan during partition? Also, as a corollary, the Muslims not moving to Pakistan defeats the idea of Pakistan itself??

Those who were scared to get killed and who refused to give sacrifices during partition Were NOT at all part of Pakistan in anyway. So there is NO question of defeat of idea of Pakistan.

That means, if there was a referendum today, it would mean that a large percentage of sub continental Muslims would have tossed out the idea of Pakistan??

If there was fair referendum and there were three options

1. Join India
2. Join Pakistan
3. Form a separate country

then majority would have either opted for Pakistan or a separate country but would not have joined a Hindu dominated India.

Also, an interesting question arises: in a combined Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, would Muslims have been in the majority or at least equal partners?? what would have happened then to governance?? Interesting issues, indeed.

A small counter question. As per first part of your post all those Muslims who have opted to join India means defeat of Idea of Pakistan. In other words those millions of Muslims shown loyalties to India SO why Indians all these 63 years have never integrated these INDIAN MUSLIMS as equal partners ???


Why these Indian Muslims are still asked to dump their religion, faith, culture to prove they are more Indians than being Muslims ??


Why they are asked to "Go to your Pakistan" ??