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Mark the Bullshit. Enough Said and enough read !!!

 

[sasuke]

Geelani denouces arrest of prominent Kashmiri scholar​

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Written by KMS
Tuesday, 05 October 2010 18:31



Another senior Hurriyat leader and the Vice Chairman of Jammu and Kashmir Muslim League, Masarrat Alam Butt has said that India wants to crush the Kashmiris’ ongoing Quite Kashmir Movement through illegal arrests of Hurriyat leaders and use of brute force.


A resident of Srinagar, Shabbir Hussain Khan, who has helped save hundreds of lives by donating blood regularly, is battling with multiple fractures due to thrashing by the troops of Indian Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF).

On August 16, the CRPF trooper asked Shabbir and members of Red Cross Society to get down from their vehicle when they were on way to Soura hospital for blood donation. They were beaten to pulp without any reason. Shabbir received multiple injuries in shoulder, neck, left arm and ribs.


Shabbir, who has donated blood for over 126 times, said that even in India, blood donors are facilitated to reach the needy people but situation in occupied Kashmir was contrary. “Instead of ensuring our safe passage forces are beating us ruthlessly pushing needy people towards death,” he added.

Geelani denouces arrest of prominent Kashmiri scholar

Quite Kashmir movement? Hilarious Anyways, those idiots just destroy their own public property and want others to rebuild them again? Stupid bunch of ignorants.

Shabbir donated 126 times? Generally, you shouldn't donate blood more than once in 3 months. here they say you need to wait for atleast 6 months. If you do it regularly, you wud just kill yourself.
A little math here just shows that Shabbir is donating blood for 43 years(assuming avg gap of 3 months)? nice ...

 

[booo]

Shabbir donated 126 times? Generally, you shouldn't donate blood more than once in 3 months. here they say you need to wait for atleast 6 months. If you do it regularly, you wud just kill yourself.
A little math here just shows that Shabbir is donating blood for 43 years(assuming avg gap of 3 months)? nice ...

caught him pants down

 

[Areesh]

Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah on Thursday attracted rare appreciation from unexpected corner-- hardline Hurriyat chairman Syed Ali Shah Geelani -- for calling the instrument of accession “temporary and conditional” and describing Kashmir as "an international dispute." “The fact of the Kashmir dispute is so stark that willingly or unwillingly Omar Abdullah had to accept the fact that Kashmir is an international dispute,” said Geelani in a statement issued today.

Abdullah on Wednesday addressed the state Assembly and delivered a passionate speech wherein he described the accession as temporary and termed Kashmir a global issue.

“Abdullah’s statement is success of the Hurriyat stand over the Kashmir dispute…the historical facts of the dispute are so strong that they speak for themselves --- from the United Nations to J-K Assembly,” said Geelani.

He was quick to take a dig at the chief minister. “What chief minister said in the assembly, like accession is conditional and temporary, is just half truth. The very instrument of accession is doubtful. India in 1947 promised people of Kashmir that it will withdraw troops after situation will normalize and hold a plebiscite. That did not happen,” said Geelani.

“As long as illegal occupation of Kashmir is not ended, no change in nomenclature like calling chief minister Wazir-e-Azam will work,” said Geelani.

Geelani praises Omar for describing Kashmir international dispute

 

[DGMO]

Hmmm, wonder how the Centre reacts to Omar's pretty controversial words, and even that in the State Assembly!

The quotes in full:

Omar had said, "J&K had not merged with the Union but acceded to it under an agreement. The Kashmir issue cannot be resolved by addressing development alone. It is a political issue and needs a political solution." He had asked leaders to desist from harping on "Kashmir is an integral part of India".​

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I see the BJP are already applying strong pressure on Cong to act. I wonder if this has legs as a story, or if it will just fizzle out.

Nonetheless, strong words from the usually timid CM. Has he said anything similar before?

 

[Malik Usman]

You can't hide truth under 1000 covers......it will come how much you will hide this.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Thursday, 07 October 2010
Shawwal 27, 1431

UN Chief Expresses Concern over Kashmir Issue​

UNITED NATIONS: United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, expressing concern over the killings in Indian occupied Kashmir Valley, has again called for an immediate end to violence and has urged for restraint while regretting the loss of life.

More than 110 Kashmiris have been killed in the mass unrest that broke out early June following protests over spate of killings by Indian police.

When at his press conference Wednesday, the UN chief’s attention was drawn to the deteriorating situation in Kashmir and asked whether he was prepared to offer his good-offices to resolve the decades-old dispute since bilateral efforts have failed, Ban said he could only use his good offices when both parties - India and Pakistan - agreed to such a course.

“I regret the latest loss of life. I have been calling for an immediate end to violence and urge calm and restraint by all concerned,” Ban however said.

“That is the position of the United Nations at this time.”

“As far as this role of good offices is concerned, the United Nations normally takes that initiative when requested by both parties concerned,” Ban told journalists during his monthly briefing.

“India and Pakistan, they are neighbouring countries, important nations in that region — peace and security would have important implications,” he said.

Last week, representatives of India and Pakistan had a verbal duel in the UN General Assembly after Indian External Affairs Minister SM Krishna accused Pakistan of being behind the current unrest in Kashmir.

Pakistan rejected India’s allegation, urging New Delhi to stop its state-sponsored terrorism in Kashmir and grant the Kashmiri people their UN-mandated right to self-determination.

Later both sides cancelled a scheduled meeting after the Pakistani foreign minister said the talks should be made “meaningful” by including the festering dispute over Kashmir on the agenda.

UN boss expresses concern over Kashmir Issue - GEO.tv

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india has also been censured for mis-labelling its troops as UN peace-keepers in the valley

most unfortunate and un-becoming of a so-called 'responsible democracy'

 

[Von Hölle]

UN Chief Expresses Concern over Kashmir Issue
india has also been censured for mis-labelling its troops as UN peace-keepers in the valley

most unfortunate and un-becoming of a so-called 'responsible democracy'

Yep whatever!!..In words of Mr Krishna..we don't need a certificate of democracy and least of all, one from Pakistan!!

btw same news different perspectives.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...akistan-both-ask-sec-gen-ban.html#post1186373

 

[BATMAN]

this story is from 5 days back and today dear musharaff admitted to training militant groups to fight in kashmir....

Wrong!!! he did not admitted to any such thing.

And, stop justifying India's 60 year long state sponsored terrorism against minorities and low cast.

Gujrat, Ayodhia, Hyderabad, Kashmir, Assam, Jharkand, Punjab..... UN turning blind eye....... does not make UN a terrorist body.

 

[Camdor]

Wrong!!! he did not admitted to any such thing.

And, stop justifying India's 60 year long state sponsored terrorism against minorities and low cast.

Gujrat, Ayodhia, Hyderabad, Kashmir, Assam, Jharkand, Punjab..... UN turning blind eye....... does not make UN a terrorist body.

If you have better deiplomatic relations better understanding with the world then sue us!!! I am speaking openly!!!

do not forget what your army did in Bangladesh and Balochistan and now Karachi is unstable. So please.. Thand rakhh!!!

 

[SandsofTime]

Kashmir didn’t merge with India, says Abdullah


By Jawed Naqvi
Friday, 08 Oct, 2010

NEW DELHI: Days after Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna told the world that Jammu and Kashmir was an integral part of India, the chief minister of the disputed Himalayan region claimed on Thursday that his state had acceded to India not merged with it.

India’s main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) condemned the remarks by Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah as anti-national.

India’s ruling Congress party which lends support to Mr Abdullah was silent on the issue.

Jammu and Kashmir “cannot be placed at par with Hyderabad or Junagarh”, Mr Abdullah told the state assembly in Srinagar.

“The accession of Jammu and Kashmir to India has occurred under an agreement. We have not broken that agreement nor we have taken it back but you have gradually demolished it. We both (referring to BJP) were required to uphold and respect the agreement. Many say that much water has flown down the Jhelum since then,” Mr Abdullah said.

“We also agree, but it is still a fact that Jammu and Kashmir’s accession to India is under an agreement and it is not the merger. For this reason special provision has been made in the Constitution of India.”

Earlier, taking a dig at the BJP’s approach towards the present situation, he said: “It is easy to say that Jammu and Kashmir is the integral part of India and it sounds nice to the ears but if there is no doubt in your minds and hearts on this account, why you are time and again shouting this slogan from the top of your voices? Why there is any need of saying this again and again?

Why same slogan is not being raised for Tamil Naidu or any other state? At one hand you are granting special status to Jammu and Kashmir, on the other you voice for removing it from the constitution. You have doubt in your hearts”, he said.

The Indian parliament in 1994 passed a resolution that Pakistan’s control over Azad Kashmir was the only wrong that needed to be undone with regard to Kashmir.

A mass campaign against Indian occuption of Kashmir in recent weeks has seen the death of over a hundred peaceful protesters, shot dead by security forces.

Mr Abdullah warned against the consequences of not addressing the political issue of the state politically and said. “Don’t blame me for future consequences on this count. He said either we have to work sincerely to stop this unrest and bloodshed once and for all or we will be contributing to the unabated disturbances and killings.”

Kashmir’s separatist leaders have said that reports of US back-channel diplomacy to urge India to resolve the issue before President Barrack Obama’s visit to India next year offered rare hope for a resolution to the dispute. India says there is no room for mediation by a third country over Kashmir.

Pakistan had accused Mr Krishna of making a ‘self-serving claim’ at the United Nations General Assembly about Jammu and Kashmir being an integral part of the country. Mr Abdullah’s comments were equally questioning of India’s off- again on-again stance on the dispute.

AP adds: The assembly erupted in violence when opposition lawmakers scuffled with security guards to protest a suggestion that only a deal between India and Pakistan could bring peace to the region.

Three lawmakers from BJP were treated for bruises and cuts and one security marshal also suffered minor injuries.

To quell the violence, the Indian government has debated easing some harsh security laws in effect in the troubled region, pulled down some bunkers in Srinagar this week and discussed bringing economic development to the area.

But Mr Abdullah told the assembly Wednesday that these measures would not solve the overall dispute over the region.

“Kashmir is an issue between two neighbors. It is an international issue ... It is a political issue and cannot be addressed through development, employment or good governance,’’ he said, adding that Kashmiris also should be involved in the discussions on their future.

When the session started on Thursday, angry BJP lawmakers, and legislators from two other local parties, chanting slogans against Mr Abdullah, rushed to the podium and fought against security marshals who were trying to push them back.

The speaker later ordered them ejected. The BJP declared it would boycott the remainder of the session ending this weekend in protest.


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[Patrician]

Pakistan: India is conducting state terrorism

UN: We will not intervene unless BOTH India AND Pakistan tell us to.

My question to all Pakistanis, does this not make UN also a terrorist organisation according to your delegates?

 

[bandit]

India conducting state terrorism in Kashmir, Pakistan tell U.N.

"We won't do anything until India asks us": UN tells Pakistan

There goes the UN card, who Pakistan gonna run to now?

“As far as this role of good offices is concerned, the United Nations normally takes that initiative when requested by both parties concerned,” Ban told journalists during his monthly briefing.

“India and Pakistan, they are neighbouring countries, important nations in that region — peace and security would have important implications,” he said.

 

[third eye]

Politicians will sell their Grandmother to stay in power. The same Gent with his party was a part of BJP led Govt as a minister & his dad was aspiring to the President .

He is now attempting to switch boats in mainstream and thus trying to steal the march from PDP.

Petty politics.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Kashmir didn’t merge with India, says Abdullah​

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By Jawed Naqvi
Friday, 08 Oct, 2010

Jammu and Kashmir “cannot be placed at par with Hyderabad or Junagarh”, Omar Abdullah told the state assembly in Srinagar. —AFP photo

NEW DELHI: Days after Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna told the world that Jammu and Kashmir was an integral part of India, the chief minister of the disputed Himalayan region claimed on Thursday that his state had to India not merged with it.

India’s main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) condemned the remarks by Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah as anti-national.

India’s ruling Congress party which lends support to Mr Abdullah was silent on the issue.

Jammu and Kashmir “cannot be placed at par with Hyderabad or Junagarh”, Mr Abdullah told the state assembly in Srinagar.

“The accession of Jammu and Kashmir to India has occurred under an agreement. We have not broken that agreement nor we have taken it back but you have gradually demolished it. We both (referring to BJP) were required to uphold and respect the agreement. Many say that much water has flown down the Jhelum since then,” Mr Abdullah said.

“We also agree, but it is still a fact that Jammu and Kashmir’s accession to India is under an agreement and it is not the merger. For this reason special provision has been made in the Constitution of India.”

Earlier, taking a dig at the BJP’s approach towards the present situation, he said: “It is easy to say that Jammu and Kashmir is the integral part of India and it sounds nice to the ears but if there is no doubt in your minds and hearts on this account, why you are time and again shouting this slogan from the top of your voices? Why there is any need of saying this again and again?

Why same slogan is not being raised for Tamil Naidu or any other state? At one hand you are granting special status to Jammu and Kashmir, on the other you voice for removing it from the constitution. You have doubt in your hearts”, he said.

The Indian parliament in 1994 passed a resolution that Pakistan’s control over Azad Kashmir was the only wrong that needed to be undone with regard to Kashmir.

A mass campaign against Indian occuption of Kashmir in recent weeks has seen the death of over a hundred peaceful protesters, shot dead by security forces.

Mr Abdullah warned against the consequences of not addressing the political issue of the state politically and said. “Don’t blame me for future consequences on this count. He said either we have to work sincerely to stop this unrest and bloodshed once and for all or we will be contributing to the unabated disturbances and killings.”

Kashmir’s separatist leaders have said that reports of US back-channel diplomacy to urge India to resolve the issue before President Barrack Obama’s visit to India next year offered rare hope for a resolution to the dispute. India says there is no room for mediation by a third country over Kashmir.

Pakistan had accused Mr Krishna of making a ‘self-serving claim’ at the United Nations General Assembly about Jammu and Kashmir being an integral part of the country. Mr Abdullah’s comments were equally questioning of India’s off- again on-again stance on the dispute.

AP adds: The assembly erupted in violence when opposition lawmakers scuffled with security guards to protest a suggestion that only a deal between India and Pakistan could bring peace to the region.

Three lawmakers from BJP were treated for bruises and cuts and one security marshal also suffered minor injuries.

To quell the violence, the Indian government has debated easing some harsh security laws in effect in the troubled region, pulled down some bunkers in Srinagar this week and discussed bringing economic development to the area.

But Mr Abdullah told the assembly Wednesday that these measures would not solve the overall dispute over the region.

“Kashmir is an issue between two neighbors. It is an international issue ... It is a political issue and cannot be addressed through development, employment or good governance,’’ he said, adding that Kashmiris also should be involved in the discussions on their future.

When the session started on Thursday, angry BJP lawmakers, and legislators from two other local parties, chanting slogans against Mr Abdullah, rushed to the podium and fought against security marshals who were trying to push them back.

The speaker later ordered them ejected. The BJP declared it would boycott the remainder of the session ending this weekend in protest.

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