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[civfanatic]

If a small portion of population does not understand that every little group cannot chose their own country then it is their problem. One has to live in real world and Kashmiri's are not living for sure. Even the entire J&K does not want freedom, so now we are saying few districts can ask for Separate country?

Its not a small portion of population , It is a whole population which even the world has granted implicit recognition of nationhood that is demanding freedom .

 

[ejaz007]

Quit Kashmir campaign reaches White House

* Kashmiri people loudly ask Indian troops to quit Kashmir

ISLAMABAD: Hundreds of Kashmiri Americans spent hours at the Freedom Plaza under the tent before they marched to the White House for “Prayers for Peace in Kashmir: A 100-Hour Vigil” reminding the world powers that the quit Kashmir is the message that the people of Indian-held Kashmir say loudly to Indian troops.

The participants included people of all ages, representing both sides of the Line of Control and those who would like to see peace and prosperity in region of South Asia. They wanted to send a message to the world powers that Kashmiri people still continued to hope that the UN would implement the resolutions passed on Kashmir by its Security Council.

They wanted to convey to the world that the Kashmiri people believed that the time had come that the UN or the US administration let India know that talks between Pakistan and India must be accompanied by practical measures to restore an environment of non-violence and free from state terrorism in Indian-held Kashmir, the Kashmir Media Service reported. On the occasion, Kashmiri American Council Executive Director Dr Ghulam Nabi Fai said that Kashmir was unmistakably given the pledge by the UN that it will be allowed to decide its own future. “Now, bleeding and betrayed, it asks for the pledge to be redeemed,” he said, adding that the Kashmiri people expected US President Barack Obama to seize the reality of the dispute as the question of people’s life and destiny.

“Let not the US strategic partnership with India validate India’s war crimes in Kashmir,” Dr Fai said, and emphasised that Kashmir situation had been met with studied unconcern by the UN and this had given a sense of total impunity to India. “It has also created an impression that the UN is invidiously selective about the application of the principles of human rights and democracy,” he pointed out.

Attorney Mumtaz Wani said that the human rights violations, being perpetrated by Indian armed troops in Held Kashmir, were deliberate and officially sanctioned. He reiterated that the killings of youngsters and youth signified only one thing that India would like to force the whole population into submission. “Kashmiris believe that their cause is genuine which has the international sanctity,” he said. app

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[PAFAce]

This is pure propaganda. The Indian government is desperately trying to give this this latest uprising a color that it can criticize in front of the international community and play victim; but so far, they've failed miserable. They've tried to link this as Pakistan sponsored, but have failed on account that the uprising began when teenagers and infants started dying due to Indian brutality during peaceful protests. Then they tried to make this look like minor protests over minor disputes, but again failed on account that the people responsible for latest ~70 civilian killings in less than 60 days are being let off with slaps to the wrist. In fact they are being re-enforced by the even more brutal Rapid Action Force, which at one point came out wearing United Nations helmets so that the people would stop pelting stones at them (they were reprimanded for this by the UN, and now wear regular Blue color cricket helmets). So now, when all else has failed, they've gone back to the old trick of making this out to be a communal or ethnic uprising of religious extremists. The international community sees right through this farce, and nobody's buying it. The latest uprising is as pure a struggle of freedom as there has ever been.

There was a protest outside the Indian Consulate in Toronto yesterday organized by members of the Kashmiri community, and I was there. We had Sikhs protesting alongside Muslims from the Kashmir Valley, and one thing that was made very clear is that Sikhs in Kashmir don't buy this latest round of BS being spewed.

Anyway, I'll look on Youtube for videos of yesterdays protests. Until then, here are videos of the protests after the Amarnath Land snatch debacle:

And here are some reports from GreaterKashmir.com regarding this very issue of fake threats to Sikhs:
We are safe in Valley: Sikhs
Sikhs integral part of our community: Mirwaiz
SIKHS SMELL FOUL PLAY
Sikhs demand end to killings

 

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[RamGorur]

...peaceful protests...

So the definition of 'peaceful protests' include stone pelting and destruction of Government properties?

 

[RamGorur]

What does the Indian constitution say about those who want to live in peace, those who don’t want to see their kith and kin killed by the CRPF bullets?

Duh!! Abide by the law.

 

[wap7]

The sooner article 370 is removed, the better. Make J&K a normal Indian state, make people invest there and buy land. The key is to make all religions live there and not just Muslims.

The young people who throw stones and fight probably have no clue what they are fighting for. They're ruining their own future.

I can assure you this: J&K will be never be separated from India. The rest of the country is not ready for that. And will never be in the foreseeable future.

 

[RamGorur]

In only one place in whole world where there is " Draconian law" made by British is still in Indian occupied state of Assam.

What's next, Haiderji, Indian occupied India?

 

[sasuke]

OMG ... !!!!

Freedom for Kashmir ... Freedom for Balochistan .... Freedom for all freedom movements

 

[PAFAce]

So the definition of 'peaceful protests' include stone pelting and destruction of Government properties?

Firstly, very interesting that you chose to concentrate on 2 words of the entire posting. It's often what you choose not to say that says it all.

Secondly, the stone throwing begins after tear-gas and rubber bullets and even live rounds are fired into a crowd consisting not only of young men but also the elderly, women and children. If your mother or father was pelted by rubber bullets in front of your eyes, I'd like to see your reaction. And even if that isn't the case, as you will probably contend. These people have been occupied for 63 years. You imagine being forced to stay in home for 6 days straight, and then tell me that you don't feel like hitting someone.

And in any case, how come the Indian police does not fire at people into the crowds protesting elsewhere in India?

 

[RamGorur]

Its not a small portion of population , It is a whole population which even the world has granted implicit recognition of nationhood that is demanding freedom .

Lie.

From Chathamhouse survey:

 

[gubbi]

Secondly, the stone throwing begins after tear-gas and rubber bullets and even live rounds are fired into a crowd consisting not only of young men but also the elderly, women and children.

You Sir, have no idea of ROE.

 

[sasuke]

In India, peaceful protest has never been an issue in any part of the country, Kashmir included. The only problem is that some madmen go on rampage destroying public property and killing innocent people and they force the Indian forces to use tear gas or at times for self defense, sadly they are instances of firing of rounds in the air. Obviously, because of some stupid mistakes by Indian army there have been unintentional deaths.

Getting back to the topic of the thread ....
The spread of extremist terrorist practices should be traced back to their roots and removed. India shouldn't have such extremist religious practices which are resulting in terrorism. These extremist terrorist practices are just making people more stupid and illiterate through stupid useless education based on conspiracies which is more and more BS.

People in India have to understand that the whole country belongs to everyone in the country. You can't force others to change the religion. I wonder what kind of stupid people do that (even Christianity!)

 

[Hulk]

@civfanatic it is small portion of people. Population which cannot be equal to population of one state and is expecting to become a country is small only in the context of discussion. When you say whole Jammu gave you kick on your a$$ when you did not allowed your fellow Hindus to get land on temporary basis, so it is clear it is not Kashmir but only portion of people belonging to one religion.
You kicked out Hindus from valley and now trying to tell you are innocent. Dosron ka Haq chinne main koi kasar nahi chodi ayye Haq ke baat karne. Pehele khud insaf karo phir bat karo. Get Hindus back first.

 

[Prometheus]

Firstly, very interesting that you chose to concentrate on 2 words of the entire posting. It's often what you choose not to say that says it all.

Secondly, the stone throwing begins after tear-gas and rubber bullets and even live rounds are fired into a crowd consisting not only of young men but also the elderly, women and children. If your mother or father was pelted by rubber bullets in front of your eyes, I'd like to see your reaction. And even if that isn't the case, as you will probably contend. These people have been occupied for 63 years. You imagine being forced to stay in home for 6 days straight, and then tell me that you don't feel like hitting someone.

And in any case, how come the Indian police does not fire at people into the crowds protesting elsewhere in India?

Farmers protest in UP;Police opened fired, 3 killed, probe ordered

Aligarh/Lucknow: Three persons, including a PAC jawan, were killed and nine injured near Aligarh when farmers fought pitched battles with police who opened fire to restore calm as the Uttar Pradesh government tonight ordered a judicial probe into the violence.

Aligarh District Magistrate Rama Rao and SSP Vijay Prakash were also shunted out by the Mayawati government which announced a compensation of Rs five lakh to each bereaved family.

The violence broke out last night in Jikarpur village when farmers, demanding higher compensation for land acquired for a township, went on a rampage vandalising a police post, indulging in heavy brickbatting and setting afire vehicles.

The trouble erupted after rumours flew thick and fast that a farmer leader had been arrested near the village which lies close to Uttar Pradesh-Haryana border.

Police opened fire to disperse the violent protesters and bring the situation under control, said SSP (Aligarh) Vijay Prakash who was transferred this evening.

B D Palson, SSP of Mathura, which too was hit by the violence, was also shifted.

Two persons and a PAC jawan were killed and nine injured in the clashes, Uttar Pradesh Additional ADGP (Law and Order) Brijlal told reporters in Lucknow.

Over 2,000 farmers today staged a sit-in at Jikarpur, the epicentre of yesterday's violence. The protesters also tried to block traffic at several places on Aligarh-Tappal road.

Vijay Prakash said the farmers this morning destroyed machinery for construction of the Expressway, adding the extent of loss was yet to be ascertained.

"Taking a serious note of violence in Aligarh and Mathura, Chief Minister Mayawati has ordered a judicial inquiry," Cabinet Secretary Shashank Shekhar Singh said in the state capital.

A Committee, headed by the Aligarh Divisional Commissioner, would be set up to examine the issue of compensation to farmers, he said.

The farmers are on the warpath demanding higher compensation for land acquired for a township project along the Delhi-Agra Taj Expressway.

The ADGP said the situation in Aligarh was now under control. Police and Rapid Action Force were deployed in strength in trouble-torn areas.
Police open fire on protesting farmers in UP, 7 injured
Dated 15 august 2010
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