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[wap7]

They're dying for revenge. There was no way you could control a distant land with a huge country in between. And it's been almost 40 years ... get over it. If it makes you happy, it's all your brethren Muslims in BD anyway. Most idol worshipers have been driven out!

The fact that Baloch people want a separate nation is a proof that you can't build a country on pure religious grounds.

If Pakistan keeps salivating for revenge instead of focusing on development, soon it will be split into 4 nations all fighting with each other. Will be a safe haven for terrorists.

 

[xyz]

does she even know wht shez holding??? I dont think so, militancy across the border has led to fall in literacy rates in JK.

 

[KS]

You r deaf....

They dont protect...they do this

and this

From where u say that these r protectors.....and protectors by whom....

Indian troops are Indian State terrorists

poor child....another victim (pawn) in the vicious land grab game being played by our neighbour by instigating some traitors.

 

[Gentle Typhoon]

New Delhi: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said on Tuesday that the government will consider the demand for autonomy for Jammu and Kashmir if there was autonomy among political parties on the issue.

The Prime Minister said this after meeting an all party delegation from Jammu and Kashmir led by Chief Minister Omar Abdullah. It lasted nearly four hours.

However, Singh added that the autonomy would be within the ambit of the Constitution. Prime Minister also said that the presence of senior ministers of at the meeting showed the seriousness of his government's commitment to address the Kashmir issue.

The meeting was held to appraise the Prime Minister with the volatile situation in the Kashmir Valley.

Leaders of the main opposition party in the state, the People's Democratic Party had boycotted the meeting. After the meeting, Union Home Minister P Chidambaram said the meeting was good and that the Prime Minister heard all the views of delegation members.

Sources say that at the meeting, Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah was pulled up for failing to handle the violence in the Valley in which over 50 protestors were killed in police action since June 11.

However, Omar defended his government's handling of the situation. He also told the Prime Minister that most parties in the state were not in favour of Governor's rule.

It is also learnt that the National Conference put forward the demand for autonomy for Kashmir while the Panthers Party demanded delimitation of constituencies.

Meanwhile, the PDP has dismissed as a "joke with the people of Kashmir" Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's fresh initiative to end the unrest in the Valley.

"The Prime Minister's statement (at the meeting with an all-party delegation from the state) is a joke with the people of Kashmir", PDP patron and former chief minister Mufti Mohd Sayeed said.

Sayeed described as a "futile exercise" the meeting the PM had with the delegation alleging "nothing will come out of it".

Earlier in the evening, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh issued an appeal to the youth and said they should go back to their schools and colleges and resume studies.

"Key to the problem in Kashmir is a political solution that addresses the alienation and emotional needs of the people," Singh said.

Singh added that a political solution could only be achieved through a sustained internal and external dialogue.

"We are ready for this and are willing to discuss all issues within the bounds of democratic process," he said.

In a televised speech in Urdu, he said he could understand the "dard aur mayusi" of the people.

Calling for a new beginning, the Prime Minister said there had been very little development ("bahut kam tarakki") in Jammu and Kashmir.

Singh also spoke on the role of security forces in the Valley and urged the state government to take action to protect policemen and their families.

"Jammu and Kashmir Police and other security forces are performing an extremely challenging task in difficult circumstances... we should not do anything to demoralise the security forces," he added.

Prime Minister Singh also proposed to set up an expert group headed by Dr C Rangarajan with N R Naryanmurthy, Tarun Das and others to formulate a jobs plan for the state involving both public and private sectors.

(With IANS and PTI inputs)

J-K autonomy possible if all parties agree: PM - Politics - Politics News - ibnlive

 

[GUNNER]

India's blinkered policy on Kashmir

Simon Tisdall
guardian.co.uk,

Indian finger-pointing over the upsurge in lethal violence in Kashmir suggests beleaguered Pakistan may soon face a bigger crisis than even the current floods disaster. Reviving tension over the divided territory, claimed in its entirety by both sides and the spark for two previous wars, has already upset Indo-Pakistan peace talks. More importantly for Britain and the US, a new Kashmir confrontation could derail their spluttering Afghan strategy.

About 50 people have died and hundreds have been injured in the biggest anti-India protests seen in the Kashmiri capital, Srinagar, for several years. The trouble flared on 11 June when a 17-year-old student was killed by police. Since then, thousands of young Muslims have defied attempts by the Indian security forces, the Jammu and Kashmir state government, and older-generation separatist party leaders to restore order.

In an echo of Iran's lost "green revolution", the youthful protesters organised using text messaging and social media such as Facebook and YouTube. Their wrath focused in particular on the so-called "black laws", otherwise known as the Armed Forces Special Powers Act, that authorises Indian security forces to stop, search, arrest and shoot suspects with impunity. As the beatings, detentions and curfews made matters worse, chief minister, Omar Abdullah, elected in 2008 as Kashmir's bright new hope, fell back on an old expedient – requesting army reinforcements from Delhi.

Despite plenty of evidence that the unrest was both spontaneous and rooted in decades of neglect, discrimination and repression of Jammu and Kashmir's Muslim majority, the Indian government has also stuck to an old story: blaming Pakistan. Delhi has repeatedly accused Islamabad of covertly backing efforts by militant Islamist groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, held responsible for the 2008 Mumbai attacks, to destabilise Kashmir. Now it says that Pakistan, switching tack, is at it again.

Interior minister Palaniappan Chidambaram told the Indian parliament last week:

"Pakistan appears to have altered its strategy in influencing events in Jammu and Kashmir. It is possible that they believe that relying upon civilian unrest will pay them better dividends. But I am confident if we are able to win the hearts and minds of the people … those designs can be foiled."

Such claims would be risible if they were not potentially so dangerous. India has good reason to believe that Pakistan, or elements within Pakistan, meddle in Indian-administered Kashmir. Since the separatist agitation began in earnest in 1989, at least 50,000 people have died, and much of that violence is attributable to outside interference, militants and weaponry. Although he did not say so, David Cameron's recent remarks in Bangalore about Pakistan "exporting terror" applied to Kashmir as much as to Afghanistan – hence the wild Indian applause.

But Delhi's blinkered Kashmir policy since partition in 1947 – ignoring UN demands for a self-determination plebiscite, rigging elections, manipulating or overthrowing elected governments, and neglecting economic development – lies at the heart of the problem, according to Barbara Crossette, writing in the Nation.

The violence "is a reminder that many Kashmiris still do not consider themselves part of India and profess that they never will," she said. "India maintains a force of several hundred thousand troops and paramilitaries in Kashmir, turning the summer capital, Srinagar, into an armed camp frequently under curfew and always under the gun. The media is labouring under severe restrictions. Torture and human rights violations have been well documented." Comparisons with Israel's treatment of Palestinians were not inappropriate.

India's failure to win "hearts and minds" was highlighted by a recent study by Robert Bradnock of Chatham House. It found that 43% of the total adult population of Kashmir, on both sides of the line of control (the unrecognised boundary between Indian and Pakistan-administered Azad Kashmir), supported independence for Kashmir while only 21%, nearly all of whom live on the Indian side, wanted to be part of India. Hardly anyone in Jammu and Kashmir wanted to join Pakistan.

While most people said the Kashmir dispute was "very important" to them personally, 81% said unemployment was the biggest problem, followed by corruption, Bradnock found.

Although the violence has subsided in recent days, possibly due to flooding in Ladakh and the imminence of Ramadan, regional commentators have been sharply critical of Delhi's response and warn of more trouble to come.

"A death on 11 June was shrugged off as an incident. It took eight weeks for Delhi to rise from slumber and then only to offer boring cliches as balm. Shoot-at-sight orders have had no effect: you can't shoot a whole city," said MJ Akbar in the Times of India, before suggesting Pakistan's generals were seeking "revenge for [the 1971 loss of] Bangladesh through Kashmir". When it came to the Kashmir challenge, "the government doesn't have much of a clue," said Siddharth Varadarajan of the Hindu newspaper.

The US and Britain, and the UN, tend to keep mum on Kashmir for fear of riling India. But writing in the Washington Post, Pakistani author Mohsin Hamid said it was in their own interest to speak up. A durable settlement in Afghanistan required "a concerted effort" to bring India and Pakistan to the negotiating table – and that meant, first and foremost, ending their confrontation over Kashmir, he said. "If the US hopes to salvage any remotely positive outcome from its … war in Afghanistan, then it should move a resolution [of] Kashmir up its list of priorities."

 

[somebozo]

Good to see India's strong man softening up and admitting to defeat. There is nothing wrong with that. American admitted defeat in Vietname, Afghanistan and Iran. Cold water starting to dribble on "akhand bharat" and "atoot ang" visions. He also had to address them in Urdu knowing very well that its the national tounge of its nemisis in Kashmir dispute and wide adoption of Urdu by Kashmiris has lot to do with their sentiments towards Pakistan.

 

[KS]

Good to see India's strong man softening up and admitting to defeat. There is nothing wrong with that. American admitted defeat in Vietname, Afghanistan and Iran. Cold water starting to dribble on "akhand bharat" and "atoot ang" visions. He also had to address them in Urdu knowing very well it is the national language of its nemisis in Kashmir and wide adoption of Urdu by Kashmiris has very much to do with their sentiments towards Pakistan.

Defeat...??!!?? in wat way dude..?

There is a world of a difference between autonomy and independence.

Even if autonomy is granted (which it will not be cos all political parties agreeing is not gonna happen in India specially with the BJP already announcing that they will oppose the move) still then currency,foreign affairs,communication and defence will still be under India and Kashmiris will still be travelling under Indian passports.

p.s.:that kind of autonomy can be given to the valley alone. and not to Jammu or Ladakh for the simple reason they dont want one.

 

[Ishan]

Wht a Smart Comment by Manmohan Singh.. U smarty Manmohan

He Know Many sections frm the Congress , Entire BJP and Many other Political Parties will never agree on Autonomy..

 

[Awesome]

As if this protest has anything to do with any party!

This is a people's protest, not a party's protest. The Indian PM is trying to deflect the blame onto political parties.

 

[HitNRun]

Buuda pagel ho gaya hai
Kashmir banay ga Pakistan.... aj nahi to kaal ......

 

[prototype]

Mr MMS smartly put on the option of autonomy and many in Pakistan had already started partying feeling that their 63 yrs of struggle for Kashmir Independence had succeeded

 

[Materialistic]

Just a move of words, since he knows its not gonna happen.
Its 2 birds with one stone kinda thing. He is trying to show sympathy from Congress and GOI.

 

[Pride]

Good to see India's strong man softening up and admitting to defeat. There is nothing wrong with that. American admitted defeat in Vietname, Afghanistan and Iran. Cold water starting to dribble on "akhand bharat" and "atoot ang" visions. He also had to address them in Urdu knowing very well that its the national tounge of its nemisis in Kashmir dispute and wide adoption of Urdu by Kashmiris has lot to do with their sentiments towards Pakistan.

Do you understand autonomous region means or just want to post hence posted? Go and search autonomus regions of China in google to understand this concept..

@ topic: I think this is only a diplomatic move to calm the people. People will come on table to discuss and then discussion will go on. Similar case of Telangana, when statement has been given to calm the people and the discusson is still on..

 

[indushek]

Well these kind of conciliatory statements were to be made and who else is more suited for this than the PM that too who is seen as a soft and good natured person by everybody.

They will drag on saying this and that for some time (read one or two years) and then woosh everything is gone up like a puff of smoke. The dalals of independence like geelani and other BS guys are thinking to make max gains at the heat of the moment. GOI is doing a good thing by dragging it as long as possible.

All parties agreeing for autonomy to the valley, no way. Well in all this the one thing good for these overseas agents in our country is that they can show their masters across that they are working very well and ask for more commission and the masters to feel proud that they were able to create some ruckus. Bad things happening to oneself pale before even a hiccup for our neighbour. For India another hiccup which it will wash down with time.

 

[Neither Right Nor Wrong]

Buuda pagel ho gaya hai
Kashmir banay ga Pakistan.... aj nahi to kaal ......

Aur Pakistan banay ga Hindustan .... aj nahi to kaal ......