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Pakistan Must Raise Human Rights Abuse Issues in Kashmir to UN

Pakistan must raise current human rights abuses by Indian forces in the United Nations Security Council
In conformity with the stated stand of Pakistan of moral, diplomatic and political support for Kashmir, it is imperative that Pakistan should take steps to raise the issue of continued Human Right Abuses in Indian-Held Kashmir and ask the Security Council to:

1) Condemn the Indian government for the indiscriminate use of force which has resulted in the killing of innocent people in Indian Held Kashmir

2) Release all the prisoners that are held in Indian jails.

3) Revoke all draconian Laws which are in contravention to international laws and remove all its forces from civilian areas so that steps for peaceful settlement of Kashmir can begin through Dialog, based on the inalienable right of Kashmir's self determination as guaranteed by the United Nation Charter.

This was stated by Habib Yousafzai, Spokesman for the World Kashmir Diaspora Alliance in Toronto in a statement issued for the press. Spokesman further said that while the flood has ravaged Pakistan, Kashmiri's have all the sympathy for the people of Pakistan, who are going through one of the toughest times in their history. It is also important that Pakistan must not be oblivious of what is happening in Kashmir.

The Spokesman added that Farooq Papa who heads the World Kashmir Diaspora Alliance will be attending a three day seminar from 14th September in the European Parliament on Kashmir which is titled "Beauty of Kashmir, Preserved Past and Bruised Present." The Spokesman Said the Seminar is hosted by renowned Parliamentarian Mr. Sajad Karim who heads the friends of Pakistan forum in European Parliament along with Kashmir Council EU and IKV Pax a European NGO.

Pakistan Must Raise Human Rights Abuse Issues in Kashmir to UN
 
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I would rather not blame the armed forces, I would Want to blame the govt..... The Govt is Using the Army For Engineering,Building Bridges in strategic and Non Strategic Areas,Rescue Works, If we were to do All this Why has Govt of India created National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA)???

Army On the Other hand Is trying to make Peace with the People of kashmir By Educating and Entertaining the Children In our base camp, By helping the Villagers sell there harvest , If they are Not able to sell it army buys it in bulk... And The Govt Of India is Using the Army where its Not Needed, and Hence It Provokes the Insecurity feeling in the Villagers, Its really not the Army whom they hate but the actions of the govt...
 
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Indian Army repeating Abu Gharib in Kashmir

-Video showing Kashmiri boys ‘paraded’ naked by forces sparks outrage

-Tripathy, Sagar reject charges, say clip ‘doctored’ to ‘malign’ forces

Srinagar: A three minute video clip purportedly showing some young Kashmiri boys being paraded naked by the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) and police in Sopore town of North Kashmir has triggered outrage in the valley.

The clip titled ‘Indian Army repeating Abu Gharib in Kashmir’ is doing rounds on the popular social networking site, Facebook after it was uploaded by a user on the intervening night of September 6-7. The video shot with a mobile phone camera at an unknown location shows several alleged stone pelters being paraded naked by the troops and police through paddy fields. The video has been packaged with subtitles and background music.

“This video should be avoided by sisters and children. This video contains disturbing scenes of brutality unleashed by Indian soldiers on Kashmiri young men in Sopore region of the Valley. In this video young men have been stripped naked and are being paraded through their village by Indian soldiers. Viewer’s discretion (is) highly recommended,” the ‘statutory warning’ on the clip says.

In the clip, authenticity of which is yet to be established, CRPF men and police are hurling choicest abuses at the youth allegedly detained during clashes between protesters and the forces. The stripped youth are also forced to raise their hands leaving their private parts uncovered. The security men are also heard mocking the plight of the detained youth.

Mystery also shrouds the person operating the mobile camera. The place and the year the video has been shot are also unclear.

The video has sent shockwaves and stirred a debate among the tens of thousands of users on Facebook. The video shared by outraged Kashmiri youth with their online friends and contacts has evoked sharp condemnation from the Facebook users across the globe, including India. Some of the users have even compared the abuse of the alleged stone pelters by the forces with the prisoners of infamous Abu Gharib jail in Iraq.

“I am daughter of an Indian army officer. I’m embarrassed and shocked,” comments, Avleen Gill, a graduate from Saint Bede’s college.

Asrar Nazir, a Kashmiri, writes that Aman Goth, the General in Hitler’s Army was hanged in public for parading Jews naked in a concentration camp in Poland. In India, he says, “democracy exists on papers only.”

“It’s a shocking and brutal act. Is this the democracy India is proud of?” he adds.

Another Kashmiri Facebook user, “Karim Nanvor” comments that he was not surprised by the video as double standards were the bench mark of civilized nations.

“World sees India as a rising power which can do nothing wrong. It is our duty to keep world updated.”

Kaptaan Singh, a resident of North India’s Punjab state comments: “After looking at this video, I feel ashamed to call myself Indian.”

“See how Indian troops humiliate Kashmiris. Where are the champions of the human rights? Dr Waleed Sheikh, a Kashmiri working in Uzbekistan asks.

Noted human rights activist and Program Coordinator of Jammu and Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society (JKCCS), Khurram Parvez said that such incidents were not new and have occurred in the last 20 years of conflict, especially in jails and interrogation camps where youth were subjected to severe physical torture.

“There is nothing new in the video clip. Stripping off the detainees, parading them naked and inserting wire in their private parts was a normal practice in jails and interrogation centers. The video has created a furor because it has been released in public domain,” Khurram said.

“Now we have to see how the civil society reacts to this revelation. We have to see if this clip pricks the conscience of Indian masses,” he adds.

Pertinently, last year police had allegedly forced 11 youth to sodomize each other during their detention at Maharaj Gunj police station on the charges of stone pelting. Police, according to the counsel of the youth, Advocate Bashir Sidiq had also filmed the incident.

Refuting the allegations, CRPF, spokesperson, Prabhakar Tripathi said the modern technology has made it possible to create video clips easily. The clip in question, he said, was the handiwork of the people who want to harm the image of the force.

“There is not even one percent truth in the video. It has been manipulated to malign the image of our men. I categorically deny its contents,” he added.

Minister for Rural Development, Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs, Ali Mohammad Sagar raised question over the authenticity of the clip.

“I doubt the authenticity of the video clip. Forces cannot indulge in such immoral activities. However, if proven, stern action will be initiated,” Sagar said.(PBI)
 
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Refuting the allegations, CRPF, spokesperson, Prabhakar Tripathi said the modern technology has made it possible to create video clips easily. The clip in question, he said, was the handiwork of the people who want to harm the image of the force.

“There is not even one percent truth in the video. It has been manipulated to malign the image of our men. I categorically deny its contents,” he added.

Minister for Rural Development, Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs, Ali Mohammad Sagar raised question over the authenticity of the clip.

“I doubt the authenticity of the video clip. Forces cannot indulge in such immoral activities. However, if proven, stern action will be initiated,” Sagar said.(PBI)


This part worries me.
 
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This part worries me.

The tape needs to be scrutinized to find out who are the culprits and who are the victims to present a case against them and compensate the victims.

What's the harm in that? Why so insecure about the authenticity of the tape?
 
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“Bhooka nanga Hindustan; Jaan se pyaara Pakistan.” (Starving and tattered India we reject; Pakistan - land of our dreams - we embrace.)

DAWN.COM | Columnists | Kashmir?s struggle is just one of many fighting Indian injustices

A particularly disturbing slogan heard in the Kashmir Valley, where its young school-goers and old patriarchs, angry women and restive youth are courageously defying Indian rule, is enough to put off any sensitive sympathiser. “Bhooka nanga Hindustan; Jaan se pyaara Pakistan.” (Starving and tattered India we reject; Pakistan - land of our dreams - we embrace.)

This slogan conveys acute political bankruptcy in a region which has lived with naked military repression for more than 20 years. I’m sure any Pakistani with a sense of justice would also be uncomfortable with the warped mindset the slogan betrays.

That Kashmir is reeling under Indian occupation is not a secret. That Pakistan has played a questionable role there is also well known. Yet, for Kashmiris to see their struggle as part of the many battles being waged by the poorest of the poor against the Indian state’s multi-pronged injustices against its own people, would not compromise or be a contradiction in Kashmir’s struggle for self-determination. The simple question for Kashmiris to ask themselves is, isn’t the same state that has killed 60 young Kashmiris in three months, also responsible for tens of thousands of suicides by indebted farmers in India? Does Sharmila Irom, who is fighting to repeal the law that gives unbridled powers to security forces in her Manipur state have no relevance for the same struggle in Kashmir?

The tribespeople of Chhatisgarh, Orissa, Jharkhand and West Bengal are fighting for their fundamental rights. One of their demands is that they not be evicted from their homes to accommodate corporate land grab. Is this not what Kashmiri Pandits suffered at the hands of the Indian state as well as non-state actors in their homeland without any redress from successive Indian governments that claim to represent them?

Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh have often cajoled dissident groups, including the banned Maoists, to come for talks within the constitutional framework. Why can’t the affected groups simultaneously expose the insincerity of the Indian state? To take just one example, the preamble of the Indian constitution describes the nation as a socialist and secular republic.

Socialism is thus the law of the land. Which Indian government, including the one led by Chidambaram-Singh duo, has come anywhere close to keeping the promise of socialism? Just the opposite. Both have callously opened the country to the depredations of private capital.

I met a Kashmiri separatist a few days after the Babri masjid was razed in Ayodhya. He happened to be the only senior enough leader to be still dodging the police in Srinagar. The rest were in jail. He told me he didn’t care for the plight of Indian Muslims in the wake of the Ayodhya outrage. “They have never helped the Kashmiris, so why should we bother with them?”

The explanation for his aloofness was ironical. How can we forget the senior Indian minister telling journalists during the Agra summit that if Kashmir was to be given to Pakistan on the basis of religious claims, should not the Indian Muslims then be packed off in special trains to Pakistan? Kashmiris and Indian Muslims may see themselves as separate entities with separate causes. But their detractors will always see them as one headache. Check this out with Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi who knows Indian Muslims as children of Mian Musharraf.

I put the question to some Kashmiri intellectuals in Delhi recently. I asked them how was it that a movement with international ramifications and wide support among a number of Muslim states could be so self-absorbed that it didn’t have a policy much less a worldview about other people’s sufferings. Kashmiris did speak up once for the Palestinians, but now it seems they do not have the energy for even that. On the other hand, there is no dearth of seemingly unrelated groups that lend them moral support. A recent rally in Canada of Sikhs and Kashmiri activists, who protested against India’s brutality in the Valley, could be a case in point. A few weeks ago an obscure Tamil group in India issued a statement in support of Kashmiris. Do the Kashmiris want to know who the members of the Tamil group are?

There is something about this that reminds me of an interaction I once had with Gen Pervez Musharraf in Islamabad. He had just returned from a visit to Colombo where his government was giving military and political support to the government against Tamil rebels. I said how was the Tamil struggle any different from the Kashmiri movement since both stemmed from the denial of the right to self-determination. Gen Musharraf said he didn’t want to comment on another country’s internal matter. So he too chose the injustice, which suited him most.

Vidya Subrahmaniam of The Hindu has done an interesting comparison of three major pogroms in India, each fighting its own battle without getting involved with the sorrows of each other.

The Orissa violence, in which Hindu-Adivasis targeted Dalit Christians, was undoubtedly smaller in scale compared to Gujarat 2002 and Delhi 1984. “Despite…variations, the three pogroms could have been written, produced and directed by a single satanic mind, judging by the astonishing similarity in the detail and sequence of events and the stunning brutality of the crimes committed,” says Subrahmaniam.

In his November 2002 foreword to the report of the Concerned Citizens Tribunal, which collected 2,094 oral and written testimonies from Gujarat’s victim-survivors as well as human rights groups, Justice V.R. Krishna Iyer said: “The gravamen of this pogrom-like operation was that the administration reversed its constitutional role, and by omission and commission, engineered the loot, ravishment and murder which was methodically perpetrated through planned process …”

Eight years later, as Subrahmaniam notes, the jury at the Kandhamal Tribunal had similar words to say: “The jury records its shock and deep concern for the heinous and brutal manner in which the members of the Christian community were killed, dismembered, sexually assaulted and tortured … There was rampant and systematic looting and destruction of houses and places of worship and means of livelihood … The jury is further convinced that the communal violence in Kandhamal was the consequence of a subversion of constitutional governance in which state agents were complicit.”

“When, in the aftermath of Indira Gandhi’s 1984 assassination, thousands of Sikhs were massacred on the streets of Delhi, the commonly-held view was that it was an aberration brought about by an extraordinary situation. Comparisons were made with the 1947 Partition riots but few could have known at that time that the clinically planned and executed anti-Sikh pogrom would serve as a model for two more episodes of mass aggression against minorities,” The Hindu analysis said.

India has spawned a coalition of injustices. For those in the Kashmiri resistance to show solidarity with those fighting the same bloated, militarised state that they are, will not compromise their goal. It would only deepen their vision and sharpen their ideas of what kind of ‘azadi’ they are fighting for.

Of course the article deals with all separatist movements within India. The problem is simple to show unification of separatist movements of India would only harden India's position to let go of Kashmir. India will undoubtedly see the Kashmir movement has the disintegration of 30-40% of the the nation. Moreover, the cohesive planning that the Kashmiris have done (political parties, international relations, armed power, street power, rich culture), lacks from lets say Maoist movement that seems more like a tribal movement, or the Tamil movement, which is ever ready to bomb civilians to make their point.

I think what the Kashmiris are doing is the best they can out of a horrible situation imposed upon them by India. The fact that Indian Muslims are still ready to appease and fit in with their Hindu fellow citizens really does land them in no man's land. Never accepted by Hindus, yet forced to reject their Muslim causes world over.

It is true that they have to face the brunt of the Hindu violent groups if they fail to do so, so this pretend exercise is something that may also be necessary, but no rights are ever won without a struggle and true secularism will never be in place in India till the culture of appeasement is dropped.
 
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^ Yes its just a case of bad policing, common in our sub-continent.
Not exactly that 'common', bad policing is one thing and making people run naked is another.

People are forced to walk nude everywhere in South Asia, cruel police. Deplorable 'if' true.

The last time i checked it was india where shredding people's cloth off was a norm - the 'entire' South Asia didnt figure out anywhere then.



N.B. Ahh.. such innocence...!!
 
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“Bhooka nanga Hindustan; Jaan se pyaara Pakistan.” (Starving and tattered India we reject; Pakistan - land of our dreams - we embrace.)

DAWN.COM | Columnists | Kashmir?s struggle is just one of many fighting Indian injustices



Of course the article deals with all separatist movements within India. The problem is simple to show unification of separatist movements of India would only harden India's position to let go of Kashmir. India will undoubtedly see the Kashmir movement has the disintegration of 30-40% of the the nation. Moreover, the cohesive planning that the Kashmiris have done (political parties, international relations, armed power, street power, rich culture), lacks from lets say Maoist movement that seems more like a tribal movement, or the Tamil movement, which is ever ready to bomb civilians to make their point.

I think what the Kashmiris are doing is the best they can out of a horrible situation imposed upon them by India. The fact that Indian Muslims are still ready to appease and fit in with their Hindu fellow citizens really does land them in no man's land. Never accepted by Hindus, yet forced to reject their Muslim causes world over.

It is true that they have to face the brunt of the Hindu violent groups if they fail to do so, so this pretend exercise is something that may also be necessary, but no rights are ever won without a struggle and true secularism will never be in place in India till the culture of appeasement is dropped.

i dont want to comment on the javed nakvi's paragraph but i laugh at the way he is saying the kashmir will lead to 30-40% disintegration.tamilnadu will break up bala bla----.he needs to live in india,maoist movement(which is related to development),hindu extremist(he doesnt know how much they get attention and wat ppl think abt this).he is representing india as an state on brisk of insurgency.he needs to think n need to live in india rather than posting and writing in pakistan.the problem is realted to kashmir on ly only by few separatist ,not by whole india atleast i never heard abt this with living in india.
 
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I think what the Kashmiris are doing is the best they can out of a horrible situation imposed upon them by India. The fact that Indian Muslims are still ready to appease and fit in with their Hindu fellow citizens really does land them in no man's land. Never accepted by Hindus, yet forced to reject their Muslim causes world over.

Why is it so hard for some to accept the fact that Indian Muslims have a decent life in a hindu majority country, and that they choose their country over some non-existent cause of religion. Their is no appeasement going on, Muslims fight for their causes and rights if they feel wronged. It is because they have accepted their country first that they are progressing. For everybody in India, country comes first.

They do not need to be deserve to be looked down upon as inferiors because somebody claims to be a better Muslim. That they rejected the flawed concept of countries for religions, doesn't make them irreligious.
 
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Never underestimate the power of people..Russia once also saw itself invicible and took pride on the "soviet" indentity. Indian ideas of nationalism also reel from same legacy and there is a possibility no matter how little of them meeting the same fate!
 
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Why is it so hard for some to accept the fact that Indian Muslims have a decent life
The massacres of Muslims?

The continuous threats by government officials to send them to Pakistan?

The state cajoling the perpetrators of the babri mosque demolition?

"Ghulami main khush hain, abhi doosron ki
Ke rehtay hain jannat main, woh ahmakon ki".
 
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Never accepted by Hindus, yet forced to reject their Muslim causes world over.

How were indian muslims forced to reject muslim causes world over?

India supported Palestine movement since its beginning, we didn't even have diplomatic relations with Israel till the 90s.

India even offered to become a member of OIC because we have so many Muslims in India.

Infact, India was one of the first (if not THE first) country to ban Satanic Verses when it came out, bowing to the Indian muslim's sentiments.
 
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Gilani condemns stepped up acts of Indian state terrorism

Srinagar, September 08 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, veteran Kashmiri Hurriyet leader, Syed Ali Gilani, has condemned the stepped up acts of Indian state terrorism in the territory.

Syed Ali Gilani in a statement issued in Srinagar said that India should withdraw its troops from the occupied territory, revoke all the draconian laws including Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA), release all the pro freedom leaders and activists and stop gross rights abuses in the valley.

He said that the troops were killing innocent Kashmiri people with impunity due to the invocation of black laws. Gilani denounced the statement of Indian Army’s Northern Command Chief, Lieutenant General B S Jaiswal that occupation forces needed AFSPA under special circumstances.

Veteran Hurriyet leader said that curfew had been imposed in 60 out of the past 87 days by the authorities to create hardships for the people. He called for a complete strike, tomorrow, against the killing of four innocent Kashmiris by the troops in Palhalan.

Asking the people of Kashmir to celebrate Eid with simplicity and austerity, he said that India could not muzzle Kashmiris’ just voice through use of brute force. “On one hand India talks of dialogue and on the other its troops have unleashed reign of terror in the occupied valley,” he added.

Syed Ali Gilani appealed the United Nations and Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) to impress upon India to resolve the Kashmir dispute according to the aspirations of Kashmiris.

Gilani condemns stepped up acts of Indian state terrorism | Kashmir Media Service
 
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