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Sorry - but allowing B Raman, a known Pakistan hater, free comment bashing Pakistan on this forum is like allowing Zaid Hamid free comment on an Indian forum.

Thread closed since the source is neither objective nor unbiased with a reputation for irrational Pakistan bashing.
 
Syed Ali Geelani gets passport for visiting ailing son in Pakistan - India - NEWS - The Times of India

SRINAGAR: With his son ailing in Pakistan, the government has issued a passport to hardline separatist leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani for the first
time since militancy broke out in Jammu and Kashmir.

Highly-placed sources said chief minister Omar Abdullah personally intervened in the matter and saw that 79-year-old Geelani, who was recently released from custody, gets his travel document for visiting Pakistan to see his son.

The passport of the erstwhile Jamaat leader was seized in 1981 for his ani-India activities and since then he was given a country-specific travel document in 2006 for performing Hajj pilgrimage.

The Geelani camp had approached the state government through backdoor intermediaries for issuance of passport to the leader. After assessing the case, Geelani was handed over his passport for a period of one year and according to sources close to him, he would be travelling to Pakistan to meet his son Nayeem, who had suffered two consecutive heart attacks last month and continued to be in hospital there.

The government also issued a passport to moderate Hurriyat chairman Mirwaiz Umer Farooq who is expected to attend contact group meet of Organisation of Islamic Conference's foreign ministers in New York later this month.
 
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How scared these guys are to let them meet with Pakistanis.
 
There is no point in wasting taxpayers money on keeping these separatists in house arrest or in jail, they should be shot dead, we will have less nusianace.
 
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There is no point in wasting taxpayers money on keeping these separatists in house arrest or in jain, they should be shot dead, we will have less nusianace.

Better yet, fulfill the commitment made by your country and government to the people of Kashmir to allow them to decide which nation they wish to be a part of.
 
Better yet, fulfill the commitment made by your country and government to the people of Kashmir to allow them to decide which nation they wish to be a part of.

Indian govt. commitment is only to the people of india not to separatists. India has an accession agreement with the king of J&K, so whole of J&K belongs to india.

We should not pamper these separatists.
 
Kashmir Watch :: In-depth coverage on Kashmir conflict: Pakistan Gilgit Package

The Prime Minister of Pakistan, Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani, on 4th September, 2009 threw a bomb shell in the name of ‘empowerment’ and ‘self rule’ governance order for ‘Gilgit-Baltistan’ region which Pakistan identified since occupation as ‘Northern Areas’. Its intention is to silence the liberation movement of two million citizens of this occupied area of Jammu and Kashmir since 1947. With the aid and abetment of Pakistani army, the Gilgit Muslim Scouts abducted Kashmir Governor, Brig. Ghansara Singh on 16th November, 1947. Indian army could not rescue the Governor and Pakistan Army took over Gilgit. Since then this region has been under illegal occupation of Pakistan’s military. The Pakistan’s interest in the region is obvious as the geo-strategic importance of the territory has never been in doubt. To the north-east lies the Chinese border, further north is Kazakhstan, to the north-west there is Afghanistan. The controversial Karakoram Highway runs through the region and the Siachen Glacier commands a strategic portion of it. There lies Anglo-American interest too.

The recent ‘Self Rule’ Package of Pakistan is 5th attempt to consolidate Pakistan’s occupation in Gilgit. It was Benazir Bhutto, the then Prime Minister of Pakistan in 1994 who granted a ‘Reform Package’ for the Gilgit region by introducing a so-called ‘24 Member Council’ for the occupied areas without granting civil, political or economic rights. The so-called Council was chaired by an executive officer of Pakistan. The council worked directly under the command of Pakistani army. The ‘Reform Package’ was described by the then Prime Minister of ***, Sardar Qayyum Khan as a joke on the people of Gilgit. In his letter addressed to the Prime Minister of Pakistan, he stated, “This has caused serious concern in our minds. While we study the implications and significance of the decision by the Government of Pakistan, I would urge the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto, to clarify that this decision in no way affects, or is prejudicial to, the UNCIP Resolutions on Kashmir.” 15 years later another Government of Pakistan led by the same party, PPP, has repeated the same bluff it did in 1994. Now ‘Self Rule’.

The present move reveals Pakistan’s dangerous conspiracy to annex strategic areas of Gilgit-Baltistan comprising 32,500 sq. miles of the territory of the erstwhile Dogra State of Jammu and Kashmir as its 5th province. Nearly 5,000 sq. miles out of this area were ceded by Pakistan to China in 1963 under the so-called Karachi Agreement signed by the Chou-en-Lai and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Foreign Ministers of Pakistan and China respectively. China since has built Karakoram Highway (KKH) which bridges China with Europe via Peshawar (Pakistan). China has also built 16 Air-strips on KKH, mostly used for military purpose. Pakistan has taken up a new project to build 6 Mega Dams in Gilgit-Baltistan with the technical and financial assistance of China. Both these decisions; ceding J&K territory to China and building 6 Mega Dams in the occupied territory of J&K seriously violate the UNCIP resolution of 13th August, 1948 on which Pakistan has been harping for 62 years. Besides, the presence of 5,000 Chinese well-equipped troops as disguised labourers and engineers and the construction of 16 Air-strips on the Highway for Jet Fighters may jeopardize peace process between India and Pakistan. It may effect peace prospects in Afghanistan and endanger India’s security. Anglo-American Bloc has been showing special interest in the region because of China’s presence in the region.

The ‘Self Rule Package’ is an improved form of 1974 Interim Constitution of the so-called ‘Azad Kashmir’. A comparative study of two documents leads to the conclusion that Pakistan has decided to establish its legitimacy both in *** and Gilgit regions by legitimizing her status from an ‘occupier’ or ‘encroacher’ to a ‘possessor’ so that area does not figure in the list of ‘disputed’ territories. This is to counter Indian claim as maintained to liberate entire occupied territory from Pakistan as has been recorded in Parliament resolution of 1994 during P.V. Narasimha Rao’s Prime Ministership.

‘Self Rule’ Package provides two Houses of the Legislature, a Legislative Assembly (without legislative powers) and a Legislative Council. The Council shall enjoy the legislative powers over all 60 odd subjects identified with municipal powers. The Assembly has no Legislative competence. The decisions of the Council are not subjected to the authority of the Assembly. Interestingly, the Council shall have 15 Members which shall be presided over by the Prime Minister of Pakistan. The Governor of Gilgit-Baltistan is a sitting Minister in the Federal Government who shall also be the Vice Chairman of the Council. Shockingly, the Prime Minister of Pakistan is also the Chairman of the Legislative Council of the so-called ‘Azad Kashmir’. Half of the members in the Council shall be nominated by the Prime Minister of Pakistan from amongst the citizens of Pakistan. Similar is the case with the Council of Azad Kashmir. There is a sharp contradiction between Interim Constitution of the ‘Azad Kashmir’, 1974 and Self Rule Package of ‘Gilgit-Baltistan’ 2009. The so-called ‘Azad Kashmir’ is headed by a President who is elected by the Assembly Members and Prime Minister heads the Government. Both have to be ‘State Subjects’. Pakistan has carefully rather intriguely changed nomenclatures of these two heads in Gilgit-Baltistan. There shall be a Governor, a sitting Federal Minister of Pakistan (of course, a citizen of Pakistan) appointed by the President of Pakistan and the Chief Minister (not Prime Minister) shall be from amongst the members of the Legislative Assembly of Gilgit-Baltistan. This is a clear manifestation of the future game plan of Pakistan to annex Gilgit-Baltistan as its 5th province. The judicial system makes mockery of the present Self Rule ordinance. There shall be some so-called judicial officers. The official language has not been defined. Without a High Court there shall be a Chief Judge with five judges of the so-called Appellate Court. Judges, including Members of Legislative Assembly and the Council shall have to take an oath of allegiance to be loyal to Pakistan and follow Holy Quran. It is not necessary that a candidate for the Assembly should be a state subject in Gilgit. In fact, concept of state subject has been done away with right since 1947. Qualification of a candidate for the Assembly in *** is that he should be a ‘state subject’ within the scope of the law which was promulgated by Maharaja Hari Singh through a Royal decree in 1927. This continues to be a strict law in J&K and in *** as well. This rule has not been followed in Gilgit package, enabling Pakistani citizens to settle in Gilgit. Naturally so, because one-third of the total population in Gilgit-Baltistan has migrated from Punjab and Blochistan in past six decades of Pakistani military rule in the area. The ‘Self Rule’ ordinance does not mention whether a candidate for the Assembly or Council should be a Muslim. Naturally, there are no non-Muslims in the region. Not a single non-Muslim survived in the region in 1947. They were killed or converted.

In subtle contrast, the Instrument of Accession that Maharaja Hari Singh wrote while acceding to the Dominion of India in 1947 transferred subjects including Defence, Foreign Affairs, Communication and Currency to the Dominion of India whereas Pakistan had brutally exercised its control vis-�-vis Defence, Foreign Affairs and all the state subjects over *** and Gilgit treating the territory as its colony. The Gilgit ‘Self Rule’ Package expressly provides that jurisdiction over Defence, Foreign Affairs, internal security and matters connected with these subjects shall exclusively be enjoyed by Pakistan. This amounts in international law as a stark invasion and violation of UNCIP resolution.

The package provides Constitution of a two Member Commission to settle boundary-disputes arising between Pakistan and Gilgit regions. Both members shall be appointed by the Governor as employees of Pakistan. There are huge lands in the region has been illegally encroached by Pakistan army and the settlers. The Commission may be used as instrument to regularize the illegal encroachments, instead.

A serious diagnosis of the package would reveal a calculated conspiracy to merge or annex Gilgit-Baltistan with Pakistan as its fifth province. This is to outwit India’s claim over Gilgit-Baltistan.

The staunch opponents of this ‘Package’ in *** and Gilgit include Sadar Qayyum Khan, former President and Prime Minister of ‘Azad Kashmir’, the Gilgit liberation movement leaders like Abdul Hamid Khan, Manzoor Hussain Parwana and many others who are spearheading a mass movement within the occupied areas. They are demanding withdrawal of Pakistan armies and referendum in the area. JKLF President, Ammanullah Khan has announced to form a parallel government in Gilgit, whereas Hizbul Mujahiddin, Kashmiri Leader, Master Salahuddin has served ultimatum against the package though, for different reasons. Mr. Arif Shahid of JKNLF has formed an alliance in *** to expose Pakistan’s nefarious design to change demography and cultural identity of the region.

The Gilgit-ites fear that political stooges shall be recruited to the so-called Assembly and Council who would be used as rubber stamp in its so-called election scheduled for 12th November, 2009 to serve Pak interest.

Pakistan also has managed to sound the rebels in *** with a warning shot that they may also be framed under a similar ‘Package’. Pakistan intends to reconsolidate its full political supremacy over the occupied territory. The interim constitution, 1974 of ‘Azad Kashmir’ may fall as next causality. They may have to live with a similar doze which Pakistan has granted to the people of Gilgit-Baltistan as Pakistan’s sixth province.

The package deserves a serious introspection by the South and North Blocks dealing with J&K. Pakistan has admitted publicly before the international community and the United Nations that it no longer cares for the dictates or sermons incorporated in the resolutions of the Security Council proposing plebiscite in J&K after withdrawal of Pakistan armies and civilian settlers from the occupied territory. Pakistan has made it clear. ‘No to withdrawal’ and ‘no to UN resolutions’. Pakistan has also accepted the status quo vis-�-vis J&K. Pakistan has expressly retained Defence, Foreign Affairs and other matters in respect of *** and Gilgit-Baltistan (which formed almost one-third of the area of the state). The subjects which Maharaja transferred to the Union of India in 1947, Pakistan has assumed the same authority over the J&K’s occupied territory after 62 years by declaring, Gilgit-Baltistan as its 5th province which had been under its defacto possession since 1947. Fresh Sino-Pak strategy to grab Gilgit-Baltistan may not go quite pleasant with the Anglo-American Bloc. The US interest in the region remained to establish bases of the Pentagon to keep a watch on the expansionist designs of Communist China. British interest in the region is its ‘earth wealth’ it discovered during its lease period from the Dogra Maharaja in 1935. To cope with the fast changing scenario of *** and Gilgit is a real challenge for the leadership of India and a question mark on the peace prospects in South Asia.

Bhim Singh is head of Kashmir's Panthers Party
 
How an ex-Army commando became a terrorist (The News, 20 Sep 2009)

By Hamid Mir

ISLAMABAD: Once he was a blue-eyed boy of President General Pervez Musharraf. He got a cash award from the president for slitting the throat of an Indian Army officer in the year 2000 but after 9/11, he became a suspected terrorist.

This terrorist was Ilyas Kashmiri, reportedly killed in a US drone attack in North Waziristan last week. US officials claimed that Ilyas Kashmiri was a senior al-Qaeda commander and his death was a huge loss for the militants fighting against the foreign forces in Afghanistan.

Very few people know that Ilyas Kashmiri was a former SSG commando of Pakistan Army. He was originally from Kotli area of Azad Kashmir. He was deputed by Pakistan Army to train the Afghan Mujahideen fighting against the Russian Army in mid-80s. He was an expert of mines supplied to Afghan Mujahideen by the US. He lost one eye during the Jihad against Russian invaders and later on he joined Harkat-e-Jihad-e-Islami of Maulvi Nabi Muhammadi.

Ilyas Kashmiri was based in Miramshah area of North Waziristan where he was working as an instructor at a training camp. After the withdrawal of Russian Army from Afghanistan, Ilyas Kashmiri was asked by Pakistani establishment to work with Kashmiri militants. He joined the Kashmir chapter of Harkatul Jihad-i-Islami in 1991. After a few years, he developed some differences with the head of HuJI Qari Saifullah Akhtar.

Ilyas Kashmiri created his own 313 Brigade in HuJI. He was once arrested by Indian Army from Poonch area of Indian held Kashmir along with Nasrullah Mansoor Langrial. He was imprisoned in different Indian jails for two years and finally he escaped from there after breaking the jail. His old friend Langrial is still imprisoned in India.

Ilyas Kashmiri became a legend after escaping from the Indian jail. It was 1998 when the Indian Army started incursions along the Line of Control and killed Pakistani civilians many times by crossing the border. Ilyas Kashmiri was given the task to attack the Indians from their back. He did it many times.

Indian Army killed 14 civilians on February 25, 2000 in Lonjot village of Nakial in Azad Kashmir. Indian commandos crossed the LoC, spent the whole night in a Pakistani village and left early morning. They slit the throats of three girls and took away their heads with them. They also kidnapped two local girls. The next morning, the heads of the kidnapped girls were thrown towards Pakistani soldiers by the Indian Army. { Note: Any credible source or is this propaganda? People make up such stories to justify their own barbarism.}

The very next day of this massacre, Ilyas Kashmiri conducted a guerilla operation against the Indian Army in Nakyal sector on the morning of February 26, 2000. He crossed the LoC with 25 fighters of the 313 Brigade. He surrounded a bunker of Indian Army and threw grenades inside. After one of his fighters Qudratullah lost his life, he was able to kidnap an injured officer of the Indian Army. That was not the end. He slit the throat of the kidnapped officer.

He came back to Pakistan with the head of the dead Indian Army officer in his bag and presented this head to top Army officials and later on to the then Army Chief General Pervez Musharraf, who gave him a cash award of rupees one lakh.


The pictures of Ilyas Kashmiri with the head of a dead Indian Army officer in his hands were published in some Pakistani newspapers and he became very important among the Kashmiri militants. Maulana Zahoor Ahmad Alvi of Jamia Muhammadia, Islamabad, issued a fatwa in support of slitting the throats of Indian Army officers. Those were the days when Corps Commander, Rawalpindi, Lt Gen Mehmood Ahmad, visited the training camp of Ilyas Kashmiri in Kotli and appreciated his frequent guerilla actions against the Indian Army.

His honeymoon with the Pakistan Army generals was over after the creation of Jaish-e-Muhammad. Gen Mehmood wanted Ilyas Kashmiri to join JeM and accept Maulana Masood Azhar as his leader but the one eyed militant refused to do so. The militants of JeM once attacked the training camp of Ilyas Kashmiri in Kotli but he survived that attack. His outfit was banned by Musharraf after 9/11. He was arrested after an attack on the life of Pervez Musharraf in December 2003. He was tortured during the interrogation.

The United Jihad Council led by Syed Salahuddin strongly protested the arrest of Ilyas Kashmiri and on the pressure of Kashmiri militants, Ilyas Kashmiri was released in February 2004. He was a shattered man after his release. He disassociated himself from the Kashmiri militants and remained silent for at least three years.

It was the Lal Masjid operation in July 2007, which totally changed Ilyas Kashmiri. He moved to North Waziristan where he spent many years as a Jihad instructor. This area was full of his friends and sympathisers. He reorganized his 313 Brigade and joined hands with the Taliban but he was never close to al-Qaeda leadership. He attracted many former Pakistan Army officers to join hands with him. The strength of 313 Brigade in North Waziristan was more than 3,000. Most of his fighters were hired from the Punjab, Sindh and Azad Kashmir.

It is alleged that he organised many terrorist attacks in different areas of Pakistan, including the assassination of Major General (retd) Faisal Alvi in Rawalpindi. Alvi was also from the SSG and he led the first-ever Army operation in North Waziristan in 2004.

Kashmiri planned attacks on Alvi on the demand of Taliban in North Waziristan. Sources close to his family have yet not confirmed his death in a US drone attack but there is no doubt that Ilyas Kashmiri was actually a creation of the Pakistani establishment like Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi of the banned LeT.

The Pakistani establishment abandoned and arrested most of these militant leaders without realising that they had followers all over Pakistan and they could create problems for Pakistan anytime. The establishment is still without any policy about all those who were once declared “freedom fighters” and were honored by the top Army officials like Pervez Musharraf.
 
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^^^ Indians are fools to keep such people alive in jails.

This vermin ought to have been exterminated the day he was captured.
 
The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Nation | Id freedom for Valley separatists

Srinagar, Sept. 20: The Jammu and Kashmir government today released two top separatist leaders and some youths accused of fanning massive anti-India protests after the Shopian rape and murder to allow them to celebrate Id with their families.

The government had arrested scores of separatist leaders and alleged stone-throwers to crush the anti-government protests that had rocked Kashmir after two women in Shopian were raped and murdered, allegedly by security forces, on May 29.

Those released include Dukhtaran-e-Milat chief Syeda Aasiya Andrabi and Hurriyat Conference’s provincial president Mohammad Nayeem Khan.
 
The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Nation | Id freedom for Valley separatists

Srinagar, Sept. 20: The Jammu and Kashmir government today released two top separatist leaders and some youths accused of fanning massive anti-India protests after the Shopian rape and murder to allow them to celebrate Id with their families.

The government had arrested scores of separatist leaders and alleged stone-throwers to crush the anti-government protests that had rocked Kashmir after two women in Shopian were raped and murdered, allegedly by security forces, on May 29.

Those released include Dukhtaran-e-Milat chief Syeda Aasiya Andrabi and Hurriyat Conference’s provincial president Mohammad Nayeem Khan.

Good move by Indian government
 
Indian govt. commitment is only to the people of india not to separatists. India has an accession agreement with the king of J&K, so whole of J&K belongs to india.

We should not pamper these separatists.

Pakistan also had an accession agreement with the ruler of Junagadh, but a plebeiscite was granted to the people and the people (who most were Hindu) decided to join India.

The world's largest "democracy" should listen to the voices of the people belonging to their own land instead of a Hindu king who died a long time ago.
 
Pakistan also had an accession agreement with the ruler of Junagadh, but a plebeiscite was granted to the people and the people (who most were Hindu) decided to join India.

The world's largest "democracy" should listen to the voices of the people belonging to their own land instead of a Hindu king who died a long time ago.

yes but kashmir as of now can not be left open to separatists to roam freely all over
 

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