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Oh! Didnt notice that was deleted.. Any reason given for the deletion???
No idea. I just don't see that thread anymore.
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Oh! Didnt notice that was deleted.. Any reason given for the deletion???
It's not a perception, it has some foundation to it.The perception in India is that it is the PA that drives the core agenda of Pakistan (and that includes relations with India). So it is Kayani who sets the tone and not the civilian government.
in the last 9 years over 4257 civilians have died...due to your security forces killing them...that is alot.......you seem to be defending your goverments actions..when clearly it has blood on its hands.Yes the figure has gone down....but nevertheless they are still dieing.....just because they are raising there voice........if that is the case...should all the Indians living in Malaysia be put to death....just because they are voicing for more right.
You keep on telling 45 peoples killed by police like police went each and every ones homes and killed them..
Well so has the Israelis been saying for past 50 years about intifada. India is slowly trying to cultivate a picture of Kashmir as indian terriotery rather than disputed one.
Maybe they did not go to there houses....but they were still killied by your police..for voicing there objection to Indian rule.
I'd disagree, and I've been to India to say that.:but for your knowledge WOMEN IN PAKISTAN are more liberated and free compared to india!
Well they were objecting before too ..lot of times ,but police didnt shoot at them..Its only when ever it turned violent police has to shoot at them.
General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the chief, was commissioned in August 1971. The other four-star general in the Pakistan army, Tariq Majeed, is due to retire on October 7, which makes him an exact contemporary. Lt Gen Khalid Shameem Wyne, chief of general staff, will lay down his baton on March 8 next year and is consequently just a few months junior. Lt Gen Syed Absar Hussain, who is in charge of Army Strategic Forces, was at the Command and Staff College in Quetta in 1971. He got his artillery commission in April 1972. Lt Gen Ahmad Shuja Pasha, director-general of the ISI, is already on extension, so is of Kayani's age. Lt Gen Javed Zia, head of Southern Command, Quetta, Lt Gen Muhammad Mustafa Khan, commanding 1 Corps, and Lt Gen Shahid Iqbal of V Corps are retiring either this year or next.
What do the men at the top of Pakistan's army have in common? They are officers of the "traumatized generation". Each joined an army that had been humiliated in the 1971 war, which ended not only in the gut-wrenching surrender of more than 90,000 troops to an Indian general, but the partition of Pakistan and the reinvention of the East as Bangladesh. The only war that Kayani has fought, barring recent civil wars of course, is the game-changing 1971 conflict.
His generation, still burning with an adolescent heartache that can never quite heal, has had a silent, consuming mission: revenge for Bangladesh through Kashmir, preferably within its career span or at least in its lifetime. The tortured angst of zealots is even more acute because in their fevered imagination, a "Muslim" army on jihad had been disgraced by a "Hindu" force. If the status of Kashmir changes in the next five years, this generation will have realized its religio-nationalist fantasy.
If they are objecting shouldn't you listen to them....or are you trying to rule over them with an iron rod.
Maybe they did not go to there houses....but they were still killied by your police..for voicing there objection to Indian rule.
in the last 9 years over 4257 civilians have died...due to your security forces killing them...that is alot.......you seem to be defending your goverments actions..when clearly it has blood on its hands.Yes the figure has gone down....but nevertheless they are still dieing.....just because they are raising there voice........if that is the case...should all the Indians living in Malaysia be put to death....just because they are voicing for more right.
those 4500 figure are not from this riot..I was answering to your question that 4500 civilians has been killed by security personals..you are now mixing both ...So far no militants have killied any civilians during this protest....its by the hands of your goverment..
that could not bother to train it police force to counter such problems....your goverment has been very inept regards to handling public disorder.