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some members r thinking that India will leave Kashmir only due to some protest.... what a day dreamer....

First thing we needed to establish was that India doesn't have legitimacy of its control over Kashmir and that has been established well. Soldiers who fight without morality turn out to be something similar to what Americans are receiving in Afghanistan. Its good that whole Kashmir is now standing against Indian occupation while in 90s, there were few Armed people who were actively standing against India. Look at this movement that is surviving years after years and even after giving hundreds of thousands lives.

I salute Kashmiris for their tireless effort. May God bless you liberation and sooner so.
 
yeah, the mullahs are curse to us.Capture all the talibans and mullahs and drop them at 30,000 feet over IOK..
 
First thing we needed to establish was that India doesn't have legitimacy of its control over Kashmir and that has been established well. Soldiers who fight without morality turn out to be something similar to what Americans are receiving in Afghanistan. Its good that whole Kashmir is now standing against Indian occupation while in 90s, there were few Armed people who were actively standing against India. Look at this movement that is surviving years after years and even after giving hundreds of thousands lives.

I salute Kashmiris for their tireless effort. May God bless you liberation and sooner so.

That thing applicable for Pakistan army in FATA and northern areas ... This suits you batter ..... We are able to manage batter than you

And second thing "A few hundred not represent whole kashmir"" ....
those few hundreds are paid by terrorists ..
 
First thing we needed to establish was that India doesn't have legitimacy of its control over Kashmir and that has been established well. Soldiers who fight without morality turn out to be something similar to what Americans are receiving in Afghanistan. Its good that whole Kashmir is now standing against Indian occupation while in 90s, there were few Armed people who were actively standing against India. Look at this movement that is surviving years after years and even after giving hundreds of thousands lives.

I salute Kashmiris for their tireless effort. May God bless you liberation and sooner so.

A Liberation would get them into deep trouble, Can they survive by having China,India and Pakistan as there neighbors??? what will they do for resources? where will they go for food?? What will they do? What occupation will they Get into????

I am sorry, They would Just be Seduced by Pakistan and Would Stick it as a part of Pakistan, then another 5 decades of Fight with India by doing so.... its better to Un root the cause than find a solution after its too late, which we would and We are doing..

Till then Let the Protests in kashmir take shape...
 
No India wouldn't be loosing Kashmir because of Protests. It has been foretold by Niamatullah that Kashmir will be liberated as a result of WAR. So stop dreaming about "peaceful" liberation of Kashmir as a result of Protests.

But this protest is a wonderful development. India would have to burn lot of defense potential to keep everything under-control.

Let me foretell this, Eventually LOC will become International border. There is no other way around it. You can fight as many wars on this as you can.
 
Mr fgfa... inciting flame wars is not a way to approach a topic. Your arguments need to be backed up by neutral articles. If you have proof of PA excesses in FATA.. please find a nice article.. post it in the appropriate section. Indian Excesses in Kashmir are recorded and proven by reports from amnesty International... just as those committed by the PA in east Pakistan.
Most if not all Pakistani's have no regard for the Indian Media whom I consider worse than fox news in reporting, please avoid those "mirch masala" articles..this goes for Pakistani members as well..no Moin Ansari's to be quoted as "reliable sources".
The article above is an example of a fairly neutral stance.

If a few hundred were paid by terrorists to create a mess then they must be a very effective few hundred to warrant such a large percent of your military to control them.

Find something concrete..then make a good rebuttal to a post. Acting like a cornered cat on a post will not gain you any mutual respect..that goes for all posters..and eventually you will be on the troll list.
Im not sure where he is these days, but Paritosh is one of the best examples of somebody who knows how to make proper replies and generally avoids a flame when he is incited.
Take the above as a request as it applies to me as well and everyone has the right to point out otherwise to any poster... All of us here appreciate the Indian interest in this forum and hope it leads to a better understanding of each other..rather than the usual muck.
 
Indian army Major killed, 7 including colonel injured | Kashmir Media Service

Indian army Major killed, 7 including colonel injured

APHC Chairman demands repeal of draconian law

Srinagar, July 14 (KMS): In occupied Kashmir, an Indian army Major was killed and seven others including a Colonel were injured in a clash at Beri Rakh in Mendhar area of Poonch.

According to reports, the army authorities in Srinagar claimed that two mujahideen were killed in the clash.

On the other hand, in their fresh act of state terrorism, the troops martyred another Kashmiri youth in Kishtwar area. Life in the Kashmir Valley remained paralysed due to shutdown and curfew-like restrictions. Indian paramilitary troopers were seen patrolling the areas in Srinagar and other towns, disallowing pedestrians and vehicular movement. The authorities have banned Pakistani news channels and SMS news services in the valley. The black law, Public Safety Act was invoked against more five activists of the All Parties Hurriyet Conference, today, and they were shifted to Hira Nagar jail in Jammu.

Kashmiri lawyers staged a protest sit-in in Srinagar, which was led by the Vice President of the Bar Association, Aijaz Ahmed Bedar. They demanded immediate release of all political prisoners including the Bar President, Mian Abdul Qayoom.

In a letter addressed to the Secretary General of United Nations, Ban Ki Moon, the APHC Chairman, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq termed Jammu and Kashmir as a nuclear flashpoint and said that no peace could be guaranteed in South Asia unless the Kashmir dispute was amicably settled. He demanded revocation of the draconian law, Armed Forces Special Powers Act, withdrawal of troops from the territory and release of all illegally detained Hurriyet leaders and activists.

The Chairperson of Dukhteran-e-Millat, Syeda Aasiya Andrabi in a statement in Srinagar said that the martyrs of 13th July, 1931 had laid foundation of freedom struggle and the Kashmiris were determined to take their mission to its logical conclusion.

Addressing a function, at Slough in UK, organised to commemorate sacrifices of the martyrs, the Executive Director of Kashmir Centre, London, Professor Nazir Ahmed Shawl appealed to the international community to use its influence to stop India from massive human rights violations in occupied Kashmir.
 
His soul will live on and he is a shaheed RIP he died protecting indian soil.
 
For every soldier and civilian killed in India by terrorists, We should takeout 10 members of their family & supporters.

Then only those barbarians will come to some senses.
 
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Title of the thread is something that needs more attention than any keyboard warrior opinion of pakistani.

I shall enjoy the next pakistani soldier dies by the bullet of TTP now since members here are openly declaring there satisfaction of their hypocrite mindset.

I salute the brave Indian Soldiers who have given there life to protect the integrity of my Nation. At least we don't surrender to rag-tag loosers when we are near death. History have proved how we Indians have shown the entire world how capable we are when we are pitched in battlefields.

Some of the members in the recent posts made it clear how much worth the life of terrorist mercenary sponsored by pakistan is. No wonder you can't take Kashmir from us.

JEO MERAY JAWANO, Our History is full of sacrifices of Brave MEN & WOMEN. No Tom, Dick & harry has the b@!ls to take it from us.

JAI HIND, JAI JAWAN, JAI KISAN
 
Title of the thread is something that needs more attention than any keyboard warrior opinion of pakistani.

I shall enjoy the next pakistani soldier dies by the bullet of TTP now since members here are openly declaring there satisfaction of their hypocrite mindset.

I salute the brave Indian Soldiers who have given there life to protect the integrity of my Nation. At least we don't surrender to rag-tag loosers when we are near death. History have proved how we Indians have shown the entire world how capable we are when we are pitched in battlefields.

Some of the members in the recent posts made it clear how much worth the life of terrorist mercenary sponsored by pakistan is. No wonder you can't take Kashmir from us.

JEO MERAY JAWANO, Our History is full of sacrifices of Brave MEN & WOMEN. No Tom, Dick & harry has the b@!ls to take it from us.

JAI HIND, JAI JAWAN, JAI KISAN

Who cares whether you enjoy it or not. Who cares who or what you are?

Lolzzz:lol:
 
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Blames Omar Abdullah for creating the mess; Indian police on verge of revolt; Pakistani spokesman says Kashmiri struggle is indigenous(Special to The News)

Thursday, July 15, 2010
By Arun Rajnath

NEW DELHI: A leading Indian intelligence agency has absolved Pakistan of any involvement and fomenting unrest in the Kashmir Valley but has blamed chief minister of Indian-held J&K Omar Abdullah for messing up the situation.

A report on the Kashmir situation handed over by the Intelligence Bureau to the Ministry of Home Affairs in New Delhi also blames some second wrung separatist leaders of trying to cash in on the situation, officials who have seen the report say.

A recent visit to Srinagar by this correspondent revealed that the crisis has deepened so much that the local police force in the Valley is on the brink of revolt.

Some quarters contend that Chief Minister Omar Abdullah has lost control over the administration and infighting within the ruling National Conference has intensified.

According to the IB report, all frontline separatist leadership is either in jail or under house arrest or under strict monitoring, hence, it is not possible for them to directly instigate protestors to adopt extreme steps. There has been no terrorist activity in the Valley during protests, or no attempt of infiltration during these anarchic days. That shows that Pakistan cannot be blamed for the situation in the Valley.

When contacted Additional Director General (Media and Communication) for Ministry of Home Affairs Onkar Kedia was out of station on leave but his deputy, Director (Media and Communication) for Ministry of Home Affairs Ravinder Singh simply said: “I have no knowledge of any such report.”

Spokesman of the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi Press Minister Shah Zaman when asked to comment on the report told this correspondent: “Pakistan has never interfered in Kashmir. We give diplomatic and moral support to the people of Kashmir. There is no interference from Pakistan’s side. Kashmir is a disputed area and Pakistan and India should resolve it according to the wishes of the Kashmiri people.”

The Pakistani official said as far as the present uprising in Kashmir is concerned, it is entirely indigenous. “If human rights violations continue and army and the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) would continue their operations, Kashmiri people would also continue to protest.”

When this correspondent recently visited Srinagar, it was clear that prior to the deployment of the Indian army, only CRPF was entrusted with the job of maintaining law and order in towns but the local police force remained complacent or silent spectators.

In the first of the two major instances, in Maisuma when locals assembled before the police station and raised slogans against the government and shouted pro Azadi slogans, police kept silent and took no action. In Batmalu where some agitated local youth gathered outside the police station, the police refused to act. The administration had to send in CRPF to disperse the mob.

A veteran Indian police officer on request of anonymity said: “I would say that local policemen are fed up with the government because we have to face the ire of people. Police easily becomes the target for no fault of theirs. Government and top administration are chiefly responsible for the situation.”

When asked if the provincial police force was close to a revolt, he said: “You have freedom of speech, so you can use any word. But I feel ‘revolt’ is a strong word. You can say the provincial police force is dissatisfied and to some extent it has become disenchanted with the Omar administration. This could prove dangerous in the long run.”

On the other hand infighting within the ruling coalition has erupted. Central minister for health and family welfare and former chief minister of the state Ghulam Nabi Azad and former water resources minister Prof. Saifuddin Soz (both Congress) do not even talk to each other. Minister for New and Renewable Energy Dr. Farooq Abdullah is their common political foe. Both of them are allegedly trying to unseat Farooq’s son Omar Abdullah.

Congress party sources say since Prof. Soz has been deprived of the Cabinet berth in the Centre, he wishes to be adjusted in the politics of the Valley.

As far as National Conference is concerned, two leaders have silently emerged as contenders for Omar Abdullah’s position. They are J&K law and parliamentary affairs minister Ali Mohammad Sagar and finance minister Abdul Rahim Rather.

A confidant of Abdul Rahim Rather said: “Omar Abdullah does not even take calls from Mr. Rather, and he superciliously ignores many senior leaders of the party.”

When asked about alleged infighting within the National Conference, Rather’s confidant said: “In fact infighting is not new to the party. As a matter of fact it has surfaced during the present Kashmir crisis. National Conference has become Jebi Party (pocket party) of the Shaikh family.”

The confidant sarcastically added: “Omar Abdullah is surrounded by some young ministers and his business partners. In fact, the state administration is being run on the lines of a business house. The Omar administration directly deals with the CRPF ignoring ground realities and local police administration. You should know that local police administration does have influence over local population because they interact directly with one another, but since ‘businessmen’ rely more on CRPF, the situation is getting out of control.”

He said: “On the one hand Mr. Rather openly criticises the CRPF for its extreme actions, and on the other, chief minister praises the role of the CRPF and claims everything is under control. Anybody can smell discontent within the party.”

Maruti-Suzuki car dealer and Omar Abdullah’s advisor and spokesperson Devender Rana is a big car dealer and owns showrooms in Srinagar, Jammu and New Delhi. He belongs to Jammu and he is said to be a business partner of Omar Adbullah. He was, however, not available for comments despite repeated attempts to get Omar Abdullah’s point of view.

Meanwhile, Farooq Abdullah urged Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh and Home Minister P. Chidambaram on July 10, 2010 to pre-empt any move of Ghulam Nabi Azad and Prof. Saifuddin Soz that could prove dangerous for his son.

Congress sources say both the leaders have categorically told him that to maintain law and order is a state matter, and Omar Abdullah has to stop the situation from worsening.

Top Indian agency absolves Pakistan of fomenting unrest in Kashmir

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This is a conspiracy theory by ISI to pressurise Indian TOP agencies for absolving Pakistan otherwise the stones Kashmiri youth throw on occupying terrorist Indian army, are smuggled into Held Kashmir from Pakistan. ;)
 

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