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‘India, Pak do not realise Kashmir’s value’

God made heaven and gifted it to us, but the man has turned it into hell. This was the viewpoint of families who recently got a chance to visit the paradise in pain — Kashmir. Sharing their experiences, they said they choose Kashmir as their holiday destination because at least once in their lifetime, they wanted to see the much-talked about place.

All families agreed that if the ugly and vicious political games had not been prevalent in Kashmir, the valley would have been the best tourist destination in the world.

One Mona Sapra said, “We were mesmerised by the natural beauty in Pahalgam and Patni Top, but as soon as we reached Srinagar, we were informed about the strike and stone-pelting that was going on. All markets were closed and we didn’t even get food to eat. I cooked the food myself in the kitchen of a hotel. We left for Ludhiana the same night.”

On being asked if they were scared before leaving for Kashmir, her husband Jatinder Sapra said, “We were confident because we were very well guided by our relative, Davinder Pasricha, who visits Kashmir often.”

“People of Kashmir consider themselves Azad Kashmiris, who are neither a part of India nor Pakistan. They are so congenial and cooperative and truly respect their guests,” said Mona. Another tourist Meenakshi Bansal, said, “I talked to many people over there like the taxi drivers, guides and hotel staffers. One of the taxi drivers said they were always ready to lay down their lives for India. But the dirty politics going on in the state completely ignored their condition and politicians never thought about them.”

She added, “A common man of Kashmir is deeply angry with the politicians of both the countries, who are playing their “chair game” and crushing the sentiments of innocent citizens.”

“The government does not understand the fact that our livelihood depends on tourism in the Valley and because of all this ugly politics and terrorism, we are not able to arrange for even two meals a day for our families,” said a guide to Rajeev Bansal, who recently visited Kashmir.

On being asked about their experience, Meenakshi Bansal said, “We wanted to stay in a houseboat at Dal lake but were disappointed to see the uncleanliness. People told us that recently, PM Manmohan Singh had come and given a huge amount of money for the cleanliness drive in the Dal but nothing has been done as yet.”

Priyanka Sharda, another city-based tourist, said, “India and Pakistan do not realise the value of this God-gifted heaven amid their blame game. All problems, be it the curfew or militancy in the Valley, are on one side, but the hospitality of Kashmiris we experienced has just touched our hearts. We stayed with a native family in Srinagar and they took such good care of us that it felt like home.”
 
Valley newspapers resume publication Lastupdate:- Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:30:00 GMT GreaterKashmir.com

Srinagar, July 11: Valley based newspaper organizations on Sunday decided to resume publication after assurances from the Government that it wouldn’t intimidate the Kashmiri journalists.
A spokesman of the media fraternity said the Government had assured that it would provide adequate curfew passes to the media persons review all cases filed by police against journalists and provide curfew passes to newspapers hawkers. It is for the first time that curfew passes would be issued to hawkers.
An official spokesman this evening said: “On the instructions of the Chief Minister Omar Abdullah, Principal Secretary to Chief Minister, Khurshid Ahmed Ganai, who also holds the charge of Principal Secretary, Information, held a meeting with the representatives of media associations in which all issues raised were resolved amicably.”
The members also took the issue of registration of the FIR against the News X correspondents and asked the government to withdraw it. The spokesman said the government has assured them that it would reconsider the decision.
On Saturday Police had registered a case against a New Delhi based television news channel- News-X and its reporters for allegedly running incorrect news about the death of a person in police firing in south Kashmir’s Pulwama district.
Pertinently, all newspapers published from Srinagar had suspended publication to protest the restrictions on the movement of journalists, cancellation of their curfew passes and registration of cases against journalists. Journalist fraternity in Kashmir had condemned strong-arm measures of government to curb smooth functioning of media in Kashmir. “It has been made impossible for the journalists to cover news and also publish the newspapers. Therefore, in these circumstances, it has been decided to collectively suspend publication of all newspapers in Kashmir to protest against the draconian measures,” journalists had said in a joint statement issued on Saturday.
Around 60 newspapers in Urdu and English languages are published from Srinagar. The newspapers failed to hit the stands for the fourth consecutive day Sunday.
Yesterday journalists staged a sit-in protest at Press Enclave against the curbs imposed on them and decided to suspended publications of newspapers unless government assures free movement of journalists.
In the meeting today the representatives of the five journalist bodies raised several issues and also took strong note of the government’s decision to facilitate entry of selected journalists from New Delhi at a time when Srinagar based journalists were being heckled and restricted by police.
 
Indian Army chief concedes failure in held Kashmir
Monday, July 12, 2010
Says have not been able to build on gains
By Muhammad Saleh Zaafir

ISLAMABAD: Indian Army Chief General VK Singh has confessed of failures of the Indian Army in occupied Kashmir. In the first such narration over the years, he said the ‘basic reason’ behind the flare-up in the Kashmir valley was the failure to build on the gains that had been made by the Indian security forces in the occupied state.

According to media reports, the Indian Army chief in an interview with an Indian TV network said the Kashmir situation had been tense for quite some time and the reasons were many. “The basic reason being that we have not been able to build on the gains that have been made,” he added.

Singh said the army had brought the situation under control to a certain level from where other steps should have been taken to carry forward the process and bring peace to the valley.

“So far as the army is concerned, I think as security forces, a lot of work has been done. The situation has been brought to a particular level when other initiatives should have started to make way for betterment,” he said.

Elaborating the steps required to contain the volatile situation, he said: “First of all, there has to be concerted efforts to identify the miscreants behind the violent protests”. “There are few. There are people who are passing instructions on phone. They have to be identified. There are people financing the protests. They must be identified,” Singh said.

He said it was for the local administration and elected representatives to win the confidence of the common man and convince him to stay away from the protests. “How do we connect with the common man and build confidence in him so that he can stay away from all this? This is both an administrative measure as well as it depends on the elected leaders out there at various levels,” the Indian general said.

He said the army was deployed in parts of the valley as a deterrent to curb violence that had rocked Kashmir since June 11.“I think there was a sort of loss of confidence and they thought that the army should be seen more prominently. We said yes, as we are as much concerned as anyone else,” he said.

In another interesting development People’s Democratic Party (PDP) president Mehbooba Mufti stood her ground Sunday and turned down Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s request to her to attend the all-party meeting called on Monday by Chief Minister Omar Abdullah over the so-called violence in Jammu and Kashmir.

“It was very kind of the prime minister to call me. I have deep regard for the premier. He advised us to attend the meeting. But it was painful to convey my inability to attend the meeting,” Mehbooba told reporters, a day after Manmohan Singh called her urging her to reconsider her refusal to attend the meeting.

She said the situation in the Kashmir Valley was ‘so bad that nothing at the level of the state government, that has been discredited, will help... unless there is a bigger initiative which will be taken seriously by the people who are caught in a prison like situation’.

“I told the premier to excuse us. But we are looking forward to a bigger initiative from him,” she said, but didn’t elaborate. She alleged that the Omar Abdullah government was trying to hide its ‘failures’ by convening such a meeting after taking all the decisions that ‘he shouldn’t have taken’.

“They have used excessive force to suppress the anger. And he projects himself like the only nationalist in Kashmir.” The PDP chief said the meeting was a ‘damage control exercise’ aimed at hoodwinking the international community.

“I have requested the prime minister to intervene and put forward four points,” she said, adding media curbs in the valley should be lifted, the army should be recalled, and the crackdown launched by the state government should be put to an end.

Indian Army chief concedes failure in held Kashmir
 
This news keeps repeating itself every year. Each time the Indians are "surprised".

Sounds more like PR crap and an image boosting exercise.
 
Ever thought it could perhaps be a tactic by the youth to get into the police get the proper training and then join the other camp. So you train them and they fight you. :lol:
 
@civfanatic

I assume you are from Pakistani Kashmir. I can assure you that Mirwaiz Umar Farooq was killed by pro-Pakistan militants and if you are interested I can point you to relevant articles, books e.t.c.

The sad thing is that after his death there was high anti-Pakistan sentiment and Hizbul-Mujahideen supporters were beaten up. When his dead body was being taken out amid slogans, the jittery paramilitary unit stationed there fired on the people and killed 60+ people. Some reports suggest that militants opened-fired on them. This turned the anti-Pakistan sentiment into anti-Indian sentiment. These are pretty well known facts in the valley and are noted in many books around the Kashmir conflict like Shadow War by Arif Jamal and was also noted by the Human Rights Watch and other HR organizations. Even some ISI and Pakistani diplomats had said in private conversations told journalists that their tactic of targeting pro-Independence leaders backfired so it was a policy of the ISI to eliminate any separatists who was not pro-Pakistan.

Geelani was thrown out of JI because he turned dictatorial. He has the backing of the ISI and received foreign contributions in huge amounts. He along with some other Hurriyat leaders were even charged for corruption amounting in total to about INR 80crores at one point in time. He has seen more as a Pakistani puppet by the most separatists.

However, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq was untainted under those allegations as he had not received any foreign contributions. This is one of the reasons why Mirwaiz Umar Farooq is more popular among separatists than Geelani.

The point that many Pakistani firends don't realise is that the sepratists among Kashmiris by a large margin want independence and not accession to Pakistan. Even the Kashmiris in PaK or Gilgit Baltistan. Its another story weather GoP allows them to express these opinions openly.
 
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Ever thought it could perhaps be a tactic by the youth to get into the police get the proper training and then join the other camp. So you train them and they fight you. :lol:

hey whatever makes your day man...
BTW nothing surprising et all...they just need employment which when they get , they will kick @$$ of those terrorists who support them..
 
Jammu and Kashmir police recruitment sees unexpected response from youths - dnaindia.com

Srinagar: The Jammu and Kashmir police has been the regular target of stone pelters but this has not deterred youths of the Valley from thronging a police recruitment rally in Baramulla district.

The state police has advertised for 400 posts of constables, for which recruitments rallies are being held across the state but with the ongoing resentment of people during last few week the officials had little hope of any recruitment from this district in particular, a senior officer involved in the recruitment process said.

But the response of locals on Sunday morning left them surprised. Right from early morning, people had lined up at the recruitment venue to get themselves registered for the rally, which will continue during the week.

For the 400 posts, 8,762 youths from Baramulla alone had registered for the rally, which comes to over 20 youths for one post.

Even more surprising was that some of them who were involved in stone pelting incidents were also spotted for recruitment into the very same force which they were targeting during last few week, the official claimed.

"The recurring protests in the Valley has had an adverse effect on the business opportunities of the locals. The youths are now looking at whatever jobs are being offered in government services. The job in police is a lucrative one for them and they do not mind shunning their hatred towards police when it comes to getting a job," the official said.


They are true Indian .. and belongs to those 98% people who want to be with India


Slap on the face on those who want to destroy peace in J&K

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Ever thought it could perhaps be a tactic by the youth to get into the police get the proper training and then join the other camp. So you train them and they fight you. :lol:

Getting a little contradictory .. Aren't we.. On one side a lot of Pakistanis claim that rag tag militants and civilians are able to tie up half of Indian army in Kashmir. Now why would these young folks (who later want to join the same great insurgent army) be interested in getting trained by such an ineffective police force :azn:
 
This news keeps repeating itself every year. Each time the Indians are "surprised".

Sounds more like PR crap and an image boosting exercise.

:eek::eek::eek:

good going India ...it will be even better to see the victims of terrorism replying back to the terrorists ...No doubt this recruitment will dampen the morality of the likes of Msood azhar ,salahuddin etc..
 
A Big Question: Do they really want withdrawal of troops from Kashmir?

Ajmer Alam Wani

JAMMU:
People of Kashmir should now understand the reality that troops can not be withdrawn until there is peace on the streets.

These people are being played with, their sentiments and ego is challenged every time and being a hot blood race they lost their brain and throng to streets raising slogans for Azadi and against India…

One fails to understand that what purpose is solved through protests and facing the bullets or throwing the stones on troops? The process provokes every human heart to react and so do the security forces or the other agencies dealing with the situation.

These innocent people were taught that every killing in Kashmir takes place due to the presence of security forces so these people who even don’t know the role of security forces in protecting their lives do what these leaders and the agencies operating from across the border want them to do. But when it come to face the bullets, it is only common citizen of Kashmir Valley who becomes the victim but the leaders (separatists) who want to keep the pot of violence boiling enjoy wazwan inside their luxury homes so some times are put under house arerest., while those in the mainstream political parties are invited by the National Media for discussions making audience fool.

Very good points, some of which I have said many times.
1) Troops are only their till there is no peace, if there is peace troops will be out. Troops live pathetic life in J&K and no one enjoys living like that.

2) Kashmiri's are hot blooded and does not use brain, I agree to that, and maybe some paid elements provoke them enough.

3) The purpose of stone pelting is simple, it is organized by paid groups to make sure situation deteriorates so that they can say there is no peace in Kashmir.

4) Right, have you seen Mehebooba Mufti, she always tries to give anti India, Security forces statement. The reason is that she thinks that can get her votes in Valley. She has often been the culprit in making things worse. I remember the Amarnath Yatra still, after which I lost all respect for Kashmiri's. They resorted to stone pelting when they could have resolved that easily by talks. So it is not wrong they are hot blooded and brainless.
 
Getting a little contradictory .. Aren't we.. On one side a lot of Pakistanis claim that rag tag militants and civilians are able to tie up half of Indian army in Kashmir. Now why would these young folks (who later want to join the same great insurgent army) be interested in getting trained by such an ineffective police force :azn:

A little facepalm for Masood Azhar, salahuddin and the company...
Lets see how long they carry this fake battle ....
 
Dude you're enslaving them and then telling them why it's good for you. They beat your security forces with shoes! That is the level of disdain they have for India.

You can't logic your way into their hearts - you are the problem.

The same can be created, why Baluchistan burn's Pakistan's flag? Common man is an idiot and this article perfectly tells that. At the time of Amarnath Yatra issue, if people were just gone to CM and asked for clarification, things would have been done. But they resorted to stone pelting. Tells a lot.

If you wrongfully convince people that security forces are deliberately killing their people. They will do exactly that, but that does not mean it is the truth.
 
its simple:

Give jobs to kashmiri youth. Give benefits to the company who install their plant in J&K. once people get busy with earning bread and family they will not fall in false propaganda against the country by some separatist dalals.
 

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