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[hindustan]

laato ke bhut bato se nahi mante

 

[vsdoc]

You give the same rights to your part and we can let the two parts decide their own future in accordance with the wishes of the people of J & K.

One basic question strikes me .... J&K obviously means the whole of Jammu and Kashmir.

Including all of Ladakh.

Including all of ***.

Including all of COK.

Including LAKHS of displaced Kashmiri Pandits living all over India.

Do we have reliable Census information acceptable to all three parties of who can vote, who cannot - India, Pakistan, and China - before a free referendum vote is held?

The reason I ask this basic question is that in the intervening past two decades (and I know this from close personal acquaintance as many of my friends are Kashmiri Pandits), the Kashmiri Pandits have been very active on the procreative front ....

Cheers, Doc

 

[PlanetWarrior]

The difference is the people of Azad Kashmir have their rights and treated as Independent by Pakistan. They have their own parliament, chief justice, and President even their own Azad Kashmir regiment supported by Pakistans Army against Indian aggression. You give the same rights to your part and we can let the two parts decide their own future in accordance with the wishes of the people of J & K.

Too much of instability and violence in the area. Demographics have changed drastically during the past 60 some odd years when the king acceded Kashmir to India. India has invested in Kashmir and would seek compensation if it does even consider a plebiscite there. Indians generally regard Kashmir as an integral part of India as much as Pakistanis believe that it belongs to India. Any Indian party considering a plebiscite in Kashmir will be outvoted. How do you propose addressing those issues?

 

[weaponx]

The difference is the people of Azad Kashmir have their rights and treated as Independent by Pakistan. They have their own parliament, chief justice, and President even their own Azad Kashmir regiment supported by Pakistans Army against Indian aggression. You give the same rights to your part and we can let the two parts decide their own future in accordance with the wishes of the people of J & K.

Yeah rite!!!

paper parliament, chief justice, and President....

they r nothing but stooges of ur pakistani establishment(Pak army)

tell me one thing..if u really were interested in kasmiri independence...u would have atleast submitted proposal for independent kashmir in the UN or any international forum....

But u guys didnt..coz u dont want independence for kashmir...u just want to assimilate it in ur country..remember ur slogan..."kasmir banega pakisatan"..

wat about kashmiri pandits in kashmir??

they r more than half a million kashmiri pandits spread across country living in refugee camps....what if they vote for joining with india???

what will u do to them???

murder them..or threaten them to convert...???

 

[karan.1970]

The difference is the people of Azad Kashmir have their rights and treated as Independent by Pakistan. They have their own parliament, chief justice, and President even their own Azad Kashmir regiment supported by Pakistans Army against Indian aggression. You give the same rights to your part and we can let the two parts decide their own future in accordance with the wishes of the people of J & K.

Thats immaterial.. My point was different. Asim had advocated attacks on Indian occupying forces as legitimate since Kashmir (both sides) are a disputed area and Pakistan is well within its rights to make things difficult for India in the Indian part of Kashmir. By that logic India should be well within its right to do so in Pakistan occupied kashmir..

anyway if you really believe that bold part, then hats off to the pakistani propoganda machine..

 

[DeathGod]

Indian soldiers serving in Kashmir are a fair kill. Use of force should however only be warranted by Pakistan Army. The use of force would be a valid method of taking Kashmir provided it can work.

Pakistani soilders serving in Pakistani Kashmir are a fair kill. Use of force should however only be warranted by Indian Army. The use of force would be a valid method in taking Kashmir provided it can work.

I read the above and laugh at myself. People talking about peace want to achieve it by the way of war. War leaves wounds so deep that the bandage of peace aint enough for them and we guys have experienced it through the many wars we have fought. Yet we havent been able to come to terms with the situation. Btw I think the theory of PA attacking Kashmir will always be a flawed one because India will hit Pakistan in Punjab and we all know that Pakistan armerd forces arent well equipped to fight across a broad front given the prominence of IAF and IN.

Btw Asim , whats your stand on US troops in Afghanistan because if Kashmir isnt India's soverign land then Afghanistan can never be a soveriegn land for Taliban. If I go by your explanation then US troop surge should be a valid one.

 

[jaunty]

look at those little kids

Oh.."gun culture"

No wonder Pakistan is in such a mess now...!!!

 

[sarthak]

Disgusting. I bet those kids above don't even have a freakin idea what they are protesting about. Give them pokemon cards, cricket bats and beyblades rather. They would prefer them way more than this gun crap. I hope those guns are not real btw

 

[krish]

source : The Hindu : Front Page : JuD vows to take Kashmir by force


this is really a bad news considering the situation that most likely india and pak will resume tha talks by this month

waaawww all the best dude keep up the good work take kashmir from india if u can that is....................... and ur most

 

[PWFI]

laato ke bhut bato se nahi mante

It's why mujahideen are fighting against you!

 

[Awesome]

Pakistani soilders serving in Pak-Occupied Kashmir are a fair kill. Use of force should however only be warranted by Indian Army. The use of force would be a valid method in taking Kashmir provided it can work.

Correct from the Indian point of view.

I read the above and laugh at myself. People talking about peace want to achieve it by the way of war. War leaves wounds so deep that the bandage of peace aint enough for them and we guys have experienced it through the many wars we have fought. Yet we havent been able to come to terms with the situation. Btw I think the theory of PA attacking Kashmir will always be a flawed one because India will hit Pakistan in Punjab and we all know that Pakistan armerd forces arent well equipped to fight across a broad front given the prominence of IAF and IN.

Punjab isn't a fair target, since its not disputed territory.

You can't take over Punjab - period. Indian soldiers stepping into Punjab will face gun fire from every household. You tried it in 1965 and were chased back. During the Indian sponsored takeover of the Police station outside Lahore by militants, the public were itching to go in and beat the crap out of the militants.

Btw Asim , whats your stand on US troops in Afghanistan because if Kashmir isnt India's soverign land then Afghanistan can never be a soveriegn land for Taliban. If I go by your explanation then US troop surge should be a valid one.

It is.

 

[mrwarrior006]

let me tell one fact


KASHMIR WILL BE ALWAYS WITH INDIA AND NO BODY CAN DO ANYTHING

 

[dabong1]

One basic question strikes me .... J&K obviously means the whole of Jammu and Kashmir.

Including all of Ladakh.

Including all of ***.

Including all of COK.

YES.....all kashmris living in either the pakistani or indian part of Jammu & Kashmir should be allowed to vote.
I dont know why you think that pakistan only wants elections in the valley?

Including LAKHS of displaced Kashmiri Pandits living all over India.

Off course all the refugees-displaced pandits should be allowed to vote the same way i am sure you agree all the muslim refugees in pakistan should be allowed to vote also in a UN kashmir election.

Do we have reliable Census information acceptable to all three parties of who can vote, who cannot

Let the UN come and conduct the census if you have a problem with pakistani-china info on kashmir.
I dont know how many people live in the chinese part of kashmir but i am pretty certain it wont be many.

- India, Pakistan, and China - before a free referendum vote is held?

As an indian you dont mind the kashmir issue turning into a trilateral issue with china coming into it ,rather then a bilateral issue with only pakistan and india involved?

 

[paritosh]

i too accept this, 6 decade's of talks produce no results so we also try 3 wars & 1 limited war but still no result... a full fledged war only solve this problem,

If as per India or GoI the J&K is a state of India, then why the wait till now to other country that occupied it, its our right to get back the full state under GoI, but no Indian Politicians have this guts to speak like this i know?

war should be the last option...an option only to be used when all others fail...
now we have nothing to gain by taking all of Kashmir except international wrath and a bad name for ourselves as a democratic country.The status quo is more than acceptable to us...if however Pakistan wishes otherwise and acts on that...we will not have to worry about the international opinion and would be more than happy to oblige.
it all depends on what the planners on the other side are thinking who understandably have never had the will to engage us head-on.

 

[Imran Khan]

trolling hateers on top this thread.i will say no difrence between you and JUD.see merirr.