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[vsdoc]

Do you have the same logic ...when terrorists are killing your people in Pakistan......I would love to see that working in Pakistan.

No they do not. How can they when the whole world knows it is Pakistanis killing Pakistanis?

This dastardly killing and the recent about turns by separatists in the UK and in Kashmir only go to show that this is the end game.

Pakistan knows that without the people on its side, it does not have a chance, and like they claim to be doing to their TTP, Indian Forces will hunt and kill every *** that crawls across the border to spread its pestilence on our soil.

And those that they miss, our brave women will take care of. (we need an axe motif too, mods)

Cheers, Doc

 

[Nihat]

what about Ruksana then

Militants forced their way into her house , she killed one and wounded many others and they again attacked her house.

When militants sneak in from across the LoC , they need shelter , food , water and Sex.

In the inital days of insurgency the shelter and food was provided by local Kashmiris as they thought of them as brothers. Now , that does not quite happen so frequently , so militants are forcefully seeking shelter and use civilians as shields to delay the inevitable.

Earlier some of these women even married the militants either out of family preasure or economic reason or just plain sympathy.

Militants are getting desperate now, they will shoot anyone who denies them.

Actually , who can blame them - they want to enjoy a quicke in their last remaining days but that particular brave Kashmiri girl just did not given in. May her sould rest in peace.

 

[vkurian]

unknown assailants... could be anybody, probably sponsored by the Indian government and that's probably what the Kashmiris are thinking which is why the father is asking:



and not buying into the story that militants decided to randomly kill a 21 year old girl.

So when it is TTP the yardstick is different....right?

Tales you win ...Heads I loose

You should be proud of this good terrorists and the ones killing you mothers and sisters are bad ones ? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Valiant_Soul]

Anyways if India does not want to give Kashmir up for Pakistan's demands then how about do it for democracy? Put up a fair vote as the 'worlds largest democracy' should do. But they don't. Why dont they?

Fear.

Fear? The state that witnessed one of the most massive (62%) turnout in assembly elections would fear for that?

No nation can put at stake its territorial integrity, even if people their want to part away (although that is not the case with Kashmir). The land belongs to the whole nation, just like any other part. So giving up Kashmir at Pakistan's whim is not an option.

Besides, would it not be unfair to call for a referendum only in the Indian owned Kashmir and not in the Pakistan's side of Kashmir? India is ready to talk on the Kashmir issue with Pakistan, but only if Pakistan stops the use terrorist activity as a state policy against India and dismantle all the terrorist bases, that is the official Indian stand. And then you can talk about referendum, and what not.

 

[vkurian]

oh please don't start indo pakistan war again

Just one tip......... free and fair elections in Kashmir.......... see how many percent wants to merge with India and see how many percents want to merge with Pakistan

give that certain percentage to India with the same amount of land and the borders connecting Pakistan give that percentage to Pakistan and ask Kashmir's to chose either country before that deadline....... so migrate peoples and finish this larayi jhagra

it could be a stupid advise but after so many solutions nothing has been resolved this stupid advise might help them out

No Sir it is not that simple ....

I agree if all of India votes to keep Kashmir or not. India has many states tomorrow one state or district can stand up and say we want to join Afghnistan....can it be allowed.

So a national referandum should be the right way.

Its like asking people of Balochistan do they want to be a separate country or join India.We respect the views of people of Pakistan in this.

Hope you understand.

 

[SSG VIPER]

vkiurian sir i hope u understand that nmone of otrher INDIAN STATES are internationally declared as [B ]DISPUTED OR OCUPIED LAND[/B] plus do u have a single thing in common with the kashmiris? on which u call it yours u dont have any hinic or religious ties or even cultural ties+ they want freedom since 1947 PLEASE WAKE UP DUDE

 

[SSG VIPER]

Mr X, excellent idea. But J&K (except the unfortunate 'azad' part) does have regular free and fair elections. Only the 'Pakistani at heart and pocket' Hurriyat stays away, because it knows, it would be demolished in the elections, as it has no mass base. So let us just give you the Hurriyat guys, who anyway are on your payroll. Just resettle them in 'azad' J&K, or better still, Pindi/Islamabad, and the issue is over!

Yes, also please stop pushing in militants to kill innocents. That would be all.

Please tyell me if PAKISTANI KASHMIRIS are on our payroll why do u have MORE THEN HALF A MILLION ARMY TROOPS AND POLICE FOR A FEW HURIYAT PEOPLE??????
Why have several hundred thouisand people died or are missing why ANTI INDIA PROTESTS AND PRO PAKISTAN RALLIES CARRYINGPAKISTANI FLAGS????
Pushing in militants dont RANT WITHOUT ANY PROOF LIKE UR CHADIPADI OR MANU
HOPE U UNDERSTAND
FREE KASHMIR

 

[FireFighter]

Yeah he and his followers can go to Pakistan. But Kashmir will remain here.

They already live in a part of Pakistan occupied by Indian Army, why should they move?

The only people that should really move "back" are the indian soldiers because they're outsiders and not native Kashmiris hijacking the land of the Kashmiri natives

Then it was never part of Pakistan too. If Kashmir was a part of Pakistan, then why you have to invade it in 1947.

Pakistan did not "invade" Kashmir, but Afghan and Pashtun tribes invaded Kashmir because the Durrani Afghan empire ruled over kashmir for centuries and they came back help Kashmiris get rid of the tyrant Maharaja.

Pick up a book and start reading. you have a lot to read my friend.

Even Kerala was never a part of India.

Compared with it Kashmir was always a part of Ashoka's Kaniska's,Ranjit Singh,Dogra, Shahi , Mughal ,British, Modern India.......all subcontinental India based empires.

Kashmir was never ever not a part of India.

You're forgetting that muslims ruled over India before the British came for 5 to 6 centuries. Durrani Afghan Empire ruled kashmir for a couple of centuries and they were not Indians, nor the Moguls were Indian they spoke farsi and hindi and were turkic descendants, I suspect they don't teach you kashmir's history in indian schools.

Pick up a book and start reading.

The Central Government is too lenient with the Kashmiris. They are privileged from the rest of the states with lots of goodies.

The government should change its plans and have a mass settlement into Kashmir by millions of Indians. Millions of people from all kinds of ethnic groups should begin the settlement in Kashmir. If the kashmiris cannot appreciate then the best solution is to change its demographics.

Kashmir has some of the highest unemployment in the subcontinent and low per capita income, what are you talking about?

You really sound like an Israeli justifying Israeling barbaric and oppressive actions and suggesting the return of jews over the world on Palestinian lands.

If the government decides to have a mass settlement into Kashmir by millions of hindus with the intent of politically silencing the Kashmiris, i believe it would be a declaration of war, and Pakistan would send in millions of freedom fighters across the border to free our Pakistani brethren

 

[devd]

I guess this dispute will remain same, there is no need to debate on this. Kashmir will be in India always and world knows this thats why they don't want to interfere in this matter. No of reasons for this.

 

[FireFighter]

I guess this dispute will remain same, there is no need to debate on this. Kashmir will be in India always and world knows this thats why they don't want to interfere in this matter. No of reasons for this.

History is a testimony to the fact that no dispute in the world remains the same over time. Mother Nature doesn't really like humans to draw permanent lines over her. God has His way of paying back to the oppressed and the oppressors in the form of reward and punishment. Natural justice takes place, timing is not relevant.

Kashmiri's have been oppressed for a century now (including the sikh maharaja's oppressive rule), there will be a time when will be free of worries and be in a position to rule Pakistan and maybe India. You never know.

 

[Kavin]

I guess this dispute will remain same, there is no need to debate on this. Kashmir will be in India always and world knows this thats why they don't want to interfere in this matter. No of reasons for this.

The most boring & flaming topic in this forum is Kashmir. Anyway, It'll be discussed for centuries, I'm sure.

 

[RobbieS]

History is a testimony to the fact that no dispute in the world remains the same over time. Mother Nature doesn't really like humans to draw permanent lines over her. God has His way of paying back to the oppressed and the oppressors in the form of reward and punishment. Natural justice takes place, timing is not relevant.

Kashmiri's have been oppressed for a century now (including the sikh maharaja's oppressive rule), there will be a time when will be free of worries and be in a position to rule Pakistan and maybe India. You never know.

Factual error there. The Dogra kings wern't Sikhs, they were Kahmiri Hindu Rajputs.

 

[FireFighter]

Factual error there. The Dogra kings wern't Sikhs, they were Kahmiri Hindu Rajputs.

Yeah I meant to say was Singh*

Thanks for the correction


And it's Kashmiri* but looks like theres something wrong with your keyboard

 

[Kavin]

Kashmiri's have been oppressed for a century now (including the sikh maharaja's oppressive rule), there will be a time when will be free of worries and be in a position to rule Pakistan and maybe India. You never know.

Already Kashmiris ARE in the position to rule India. Any Indian can become prime minister and rule India.

 

[vsdoc]

There is a simple solution to Gilani and those like him.

Escort them to the border and throw them across (circus-type human catapaults come to mind).

If you are Pakistani, then you belong in Pakistan.

Stay out of India.

Period.

Cheers, Doc