Kashmir Issue : Our options & possible Course of Action

[Pakistani Fighter]

Beside if war continue it can ultimate bring nuclear war which will destroy whole Pakistan Afghanistan India China Iran.

Pakistan's missiles will hit Calcutta and Assam. How will Bangladesh gets saved?

 

[Reddington]

Kashmir 2019: Options with Pakistan

Lt Gen (retd) Naeem Khalid Lodhi

August 15, 2019


The political coup in Indian Occupied Kashmiri by Modi Government should have been anticipated by the leadership in Pakistan, had they closely monitored the electioneering campaign, past history , attitude of military commanders (especially post Palwama embarrassment ) and present leadership of BJP. On the contrary, a softer and reconciliatory approach was being expected by important decision makers and many political pundits over here. How can we be certain that leadership and foreign office was clueless as to what was in the offing ? Simply because of absence of any pre-emptive or anticipatory moves.


Anyway bygones are bygones, the present situation is staring at our faces. It is ominous, laden with several further political and military options for India, unless we make concerted efforts to block and defeat them in advance, and please NOT in reaction. India may ride through their domestic political and moral reaction, that is not likely to be long-lived, and also the external pressure that is linked with international politics, the regional situation (Afghanistan, Iran, CPEC etc ) and strong political and economic Indian clout. So, the only two pressures that could be enduring and may modify Indian attitude are the defiance spirit of valiant Kashmiris and the unflinching support of the people and State of Pakistan. Anything else like the support of friendly countries, UN pronouncements and international human rights institutions and community would be critical catalysts to bolster only the basic two factors mentioned earlier. Thus, it is absolutely important that Kashmiris sustain their Freedom Movement and Pakistan’s support remains effective.


Now let us get to the brass tacks of own possible options and the likely impacts on Freedom Movement and Indian behaviour. India has made a grand move covering politico-legal and military aspects. Politically, they went ahead to change the internationally acknowledged status of Indian Occupied Jammu Kashmir and Ladakh region. Legally, they employed the facade of Presidential power and Parliamentary approvals to bring about these paper changes. Further to suppress the ongoing freedom struggle, absorb the extra ordinary Kashmiri reaction, and also intimidate Pakistan, moved large scale military and paramilitary additional forces into IOK. Therefore, our counter moves and pre emptive actions will have to cover all the three areas, which are political, legal and military. There may be three broad options :-


1. Undertake purely diplomatic actions of the type that we have already taken. Stronger diplomatic moves to send out delegates to all important world capitals and endeavours to table a resolution at UNSC seem to be in the offing. Political and military leadership should immediately embark upon visits to friendly and neutral countries, to sensitise them about the likely outcomes of the recent Indian moves. Before tabling any resolution at the UNSC, hectic efforts would be required to discuss the likely statement with all the permanent and non-permanent members. Also, a friendly country like China would have to be convinced and requested to table the resolution. Even at the risk of being vetoed , mere tabling and voting on such a statement would have its diplomatic effects. Such resolutions are not tabled always to be passed, these do have other implications. But majority members’ support must be cultivated. International Human Rights Organisations should be requested and convinced to further emphasise the importance of ending all violations and need for investigative visits of neutral entities. International civil society be approached through diplomats, delegates, diaspora, social and main media and even lobbyists to draw their attention towards the unprecedented difficulties being faced by Kashmiri women, children and men. Nation States may not respond directly to our appeals due to their individual national interests, but the pressures of their civil societies may goad them into some Kashmir related positive moves due to their internal political considerations. There may be other possible steps that may be suggested by some veteran and practicing diplomats, but all such actions, however strong and successful, will fail to convince or force Modi to reverse his pronouncements and practical steps. At the most that would help to prepare grounds for further actions in the politico-military domains. And so far we have only taken few of the possible steps in the diplomatic domain only.


2. The second immediate consideration should be to deliberate on possible political moves if not stronger at least as weighty as Indian government’s actions. There are a number of political options being discussed. Such as partial plebiscite under the U.N. auspices within the territories of GB and Azad Kashmir, with a resolve to completing and extending it later in IOK , whenever feasible. Some quarters are also suggesting a Government in Exile in some European or friendly country, comprising political heavyweights from AK, IOK and Kashmiri diaspora. In case of a political difficulty it may be established in AK. All far reaching political implications of such moves should be discussed amongst Kashmiri and Pakistani jurists and political leadership. This would only become possible if our diplomatic endeavours as mentioned above are strong, resulting into favourable international environment. We must also remain cognisant of a trap that Modi may make us accept the articles 370 and 35A ( that we always rejected ) , by promising a reversal of their steps (quite improbable). It will be a balanced combination of diplomatic and political moves that may induce a new refreshing life in the Kashmir cause and keep it politically alive, may be making it more vivid at international political scene.


3. Heavy induction of fresh troops by India in IOK also has some serious military implications. With total media blackout these troops may already be busy decapitating the young Kashmiri leadership, thus delivering a mortal blow to the freedom movement. The more days they get to undertake this ominous operation, the chances of survival of existing freedom struggle leadership will keep diminishing. Induction of such heavy additional forces poses a direct military threat to Pakistan administered Kashmir and adjoining territories. It gives India clear advantage in troop ratios, giving them the capability to overwhelm some territories, at least temporarily, and then ask the world to arbitrate ( keep in mind Trump’s offer ) , threatening further ingresses, if Pakistan does not acquiesce. I am not suggesting that they will succeed, but the capability is right there. Now, if it is in Indian military scheme of things to initially weaken Freedom Movement and then create a Casus Belli ( excuse to attack ) and nibble small territories ( intentions) of AK, remaining well below Nuclear thresholds, what should be our responses? Can we afford to silently witness or imagine (highly probable) the slaughter of freedom fighters during the present clampdown? Each passing day of our inaction may be costing heavily to the Freedom Movement. Should we wait for the Indians to peacefully complete their Phase One and then turn towards Azad Kashmir at their leisure ? Can we do something to upset their plans or at least upset the timings? Do we have options short of all-out War ? Naturally this cannot be an open discussion and requires the deliberations by those who have the authority and the requisite intelligence gathering capabilities, to crystallise the hypothesis - so we leave the military options open.


Out of the three areas where we need to act, as mentioned in the above thesis, first one (diplomatic) is absolutely necessary and we are only halfway through as yet. A lot more needs to be done. But mere diplomatic manoeuvres will not make India budge an inch from its charted course of actions. Nevertheless completing the cycle of our intended diplomatic moves needs to be completed in the shortest possible time. Next comes the Politico-Legal Activism comprising the bare minimum set of actions that may checkmate Indian legal and political misadventures. For countering the Indian kinetic moves and to save the lives of Kashmiris in IOK, something needs to be done immediately, as nature , Kashmiris and history will never forgive us for merely acting as bystanders and watching the butchery and rape of IOK. Probably time demands simultaneous moves in all areas. ‘ You may not be interested in war, but war may be interested in you’ ‘ To avoid war if we compromise our honour, we may lose on both accounts’ If outcome of wars could be judged by the economic prowess and the comparison of forces, there would have been no military history and no wars of independence . Yes, two nuclear neighbours cannot think of an all-out war, but then the answer must be found in the changing nature and character of contemporary conflicts. A well-orchestrated hybrid solution with seamless integration of diplomatic, political and kinetic aspects has become absolutely essential.

https://nation.com.pk/15-Aug-2019/kashmir-2019-options-with-pakistan

 

[Fawadqasim1]

hindsight is 20/20

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Yes, two nuclear neighbours cannot think of an all-out war, but then the answer must be found in the changing nature and character of contemporary conflicts. A well-orchestrated hybrid solution with seamless integration of diplomatic, political and kinetic aspects has become absolutely essential.

Yes, two nuclear neighbours cannot think of an all-out war, but then the answer must be found in the changing nature and character of contemporary conflicts. A well-orchestrated hybrid solution with seamless integration of diplomatic, political and kinetic aspects has become absolutely essential.

 

[monitor]

Pakistan's missiles will hit Calcutta and Assam. How will Bangladesh gets saved?

We might not save our self from the fallout of nuclear missile so prevention is the best defense for us .

 

[zeeshe100]

 

[Pied Piper]

Salaam!

Due to current and evolving threat levels by the Indian Fascist BJP government – appropriate and measured responses need to be implemented (gradually):

Never act in haste - The saying “act in haste, repent at leisure” is typically a warning that means “if you make a hasty decision, you’ll have plenty of time to mull over your mistake later.”

Some Islamic guidance:

· Beware of haste, for indeed it bears the fruit of regret.
· Being hasty before [possessing the] ability is part of foolishness.
· Keep away from haste, for verily it is the symbol of loss and regret.


Pakistan is in a precarious position and has a number of issues:

1. Extremely weak economy (not enough to pay its bills)

2. Forced to borrow money from its allies (some allies are Munafiqs and hence will utilise this for their aims – hence UAE and Saudi treachery in not supporting Pakistan on Kashmir (they are more happy to support Fascists governments if it means they will generate more wealth)

3. Majority of the world (especially western world) have been brainwashed by the media on the causes of conflict and have deep anti-muslim views – hence would not care if Muslims are being demonised or destroyed) – in this area the Zionist and its allies media have made this very apparent

4. Pakistan has a number of insincere politicians and their ilk that are slowly being purged out of influential places and are on a journey of being locked up – these people have colluded with Pakistan’s enemies and are the cause of Pakistan’s international standing and its economy.

5. People want swift action again India and other enemies but fail to understand the countries weaknesses. Too many hypocrites amongst its masses (75% of the population and 25% sincere people (believers) – God Almighty knows best! Hence, need to increase more awareness of true Deen (ISLAM) and the Muslim responsibility of ‘Jihad – struggle against oppression! Too many hypocrites are producing ‘cowards’ in the Muslim world. The global suffering and destruction of Muslims countries will indicate this. Please note, Jihad has been demonised by the non-Muslim world because it safeguards Muslim interests! I.e..it checkmates the kuffars quest for looting and plundering nations!

6. The problems Pakistan is facing is that key countries (with their allies) are aiming to disable/destroy it. In much the same way as Iraq, Syria Libya etc. have been destroyed or weakened. Thus serving the Zionists and their supporters for Middle East and eventually global hegemony.

7. India has been given tacit approval from these deep state countries – Pakistan needs to be wary of this and try to undermine as much as possible this nexus anti-Pakistan group!

8. Plus much more…..

What can Pakistan do?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2




How can Pakistan and the Muslim world unite? How are they able to dislodge the corrupt sell outs of the Muslim World? United we stand, Divided we fall!

· Solution 1

· Solution 2


How can Pakistan and its allies across the world help with its cause (Freedom for Indian Occupied Kashmir?)

· Solution 1

· Solution 2


How can Pakistan and the World highlight about the dangers of a Hindu Fascists/Nazis of the BJP/RSS control of Nuclear weapons (safety and security)?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2


How Pakistan armed forces can increases their weaponry to deter Indian aggression? Or aid the liberation of freedom for Indian occupied Kashmir?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2


How can Pakistan help Hindu India to implode? The Fascists BJP government has initiated the implosion of India - Indian occupied Kashmir will become the domino for other states in India to cry for freedom?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2

How can Pakistanis (and their allies) help and support Pakistan and the Kashmiri cause?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2

How can the Pakistan rapidly improve its air power in its current phase? Air Power will be pivotal in ensuring victory over its adversaries?

· Solution 1 - bring out mothballed Q5/A5 Fantan's etc?

· Solution 2 - Get allies to give additional aircraft (free if possible)?

How can people aid Pakistan in its information warfare campaign? How can people highlight the atrocities committed by the Hindu Fascists in Occupied Kashmir and in certain states in India?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2



Pakistan needs to be ready for war (if it wants peace) - it needs to get all its units/soldiers on a war footing. Psychologically get them ready - Physically get them ready!

The Knee jerk reaction from India will cause India to implode - a big strategic blunder from the BJP.


Patience and you will see this happening in due course

 

[Lincoln]

Salaam!

Due to current and evolving threat levels by the Indian Fascist BJP government – appropriate and measured responses need to be implemented (gradually):

Never act in haste - The saying “act in haste, repent at leisure” is typically a warning that means “if you make a hasty decision, you’ll have plenty of time to mull over your mistake later.”

Some Islamic guidance:

· Beware of haste, for indeed it bears the fruit of regret.
· Being hasty before [possessing the] ability is part of foolishness.
· Keep away from haste, for verily it is the symbol of loss and regret.


Pakistan is in a precarious position and has a number of issues:

1. Extremely weak economy (not enough to pay its bills)

2. Forced to borrow money from its allies (some allies are Munafiqs and hence will utilise this for their aims – hence UAE and Saudi treachery in not supporting Pakistan on Kashmir (they are more happy to support Fascists governments if it means they will generate more wealth)

3. Majority of the world (especially western world) have been brainwashed by the media on the causes of conflict and have deep anti-muslim views – hence would not care if Muslims are being demonised or destroyed) – in this area the Zionist and its allies media have made this very apparent

4. Pakistan has a number of insincere politicians and their ilk that are slowly being purged out of influential places and are on a journey of being locked up – these people have colluded with Pakistan’s enemies and are the cause of Pakistan’s international standing and its economy.

5. People want swift action again India and other enemies but fail to understand the countries weaknesses. Too many hypocrites amongst its masses (75% of the population and 25% sincere people (believers) – God Almighty knows best! Hence, need to increase more awareness of true Deen (ISLAM) and the Muslim responsibility of ‘Jihad – struggle against oppression! Too many hypocrites are producing ‘cowards’ in the Muslim world. The global suffering and destruction of Muslims countries will indicate this. Please note, Jihad has been demonised by the non-Muslim world because it safeguards Muslim interests! I.e..it checkmates the kuffars quest for looting and plundering nations!

6. The problems Pakistan is facing is that key countries (with their allies) are aiming to disable/destroy it. In much the same way as Iraq, Syria Libya etc. have been destroyed or weakened. Thus serving the Zionists and their supporters for Middle East and eventually global hegemony.

7. India has been given tacit approval from these deep state countries – Pakistan needs to be wary of this and try to undermine as much as possible this nexus anti-Pakistan group!

8. Plus much more…..

What can Pakistan do?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2




How can Pakistan and the Muslim world unite? How are they able to dislodge the corrupt sell outs of the Muslim World? United we stand, Divided we fall!

· Solution 1

· Solution 2


How can Pakistan and its allies across the world help with its cause (Freedom for Indian Occupied Kashmir?)

· Solution 1

· Solution 2


How can Pakistan and the World highlight about the dangers of a Hindu Fascists/Nazis of the BJP/RSS control of Nuclear weapons (safety and security)?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2


How Pakistan armed forces can increases their weaponry to deter Indian aggression? Or aid the liberation of freedom for Indian occupied Kashmir?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2


How can Pakistan help Hindu India to implode? The Fascists BJP government has initiated the implosion of India - Indian occupied Kashmir will become the domino for other states in India to cry for freedom?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2

How can Pakistanis (and their allies) help and support Pakistan and the Kashmiri cause?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2

How can the Pakistan rapidly improve its air power in its current phase? Air Power will be pivotal in ensuring victory over its adversaries?

· Solution 1 - bring out mothballed Q5/A5 Fantan's etc?

· Solution 2 - Get allies to give additional aircraft (free if possible)?

How can people aid Pakistan in its information warfare campaign? How can people highlight the atrocities committed by the Hindu Fascists in Occupied Kashmir and in certain states in India?

· Solution 1

· Solution 2



The Knee jerk reaction from India will cause India to implode - a big strategic blunder from the BJP.


Patience and you will see this happening in due course

So you believe that Zionists control media, world powers, and that everyone is colluding to destroy Pakistan. It's all a conspiracy.

Okay.

 

[Pied Piper]

So you believe that Zionists control media, world powers, and that everyone is colluding to destroy Pakistan. It's all a conspiracy.

Okay.

well if you do your research...you will easily find this.....look at the pattern in the Muslim World? Hypocrites in charge...one by one destroying all these countries.....only a few left?

by the way not trying to scare monger - current global situation is 'divide and conquer'. Might is right?

Media is the most powerful tool in the world.....and increasingly controlled by zionist outlets....

The good guys are being seen as bad ....the bad as being seen as good.....

for instance freedom fighters.....labelled as terrorists etc....

Also please don't right this off as a conspiracy thing......its not!


its finding a rationale solution to Pakistan's problems.......

 

[The Accountant]

So you believe that Zionists control media, world powers, and that everyone is colluding to destroy Pakistan. It's all a conspiracy.

Okay.

Read ptotocols of elders of zion written in 1885 much earlier than creation of Israel and any control of jews over world affairs and then compare it with current situation ... u will know if it is a conspiracy or reality

 

[Lincoln]

Read ptotocols of elders of zion written in 1885 much earlier than creation of Israel and any control of jews over world affairs and then compare it with current situation ... u will know if it is a conspiracy or reality

If you want me to believe that some secret group of people controls the Media companies, people in charge, countries, and banks, then I am not believing it.

 

[Pied Piper]

One area that Pakistanis/Muslims/allies can help is in INFORMATION dissemination - send out the correct information via all media outlets (twitter, Facebook, Whats app, internet, news columns etc.).

The media blackout in occupied Kashmir and RSS brutality in India needs to be sent to all your contacts around the globe.....every little bit will help!

Global awareness of these atrocities will enable the common person to see what really is happening?

 

[The Accountant]

If you want me to believe that some secret group of people controls the Media companies, people in charge, countries, and banks, then I am not believing it.

It doesnt matter u believe it or not reality will remain naked...

Hiwever u can collect evidence to accept or negate the hypotehsis.

Read the statement i recomended ... it is 130 years old document revealing the plan to control the world at the time when none of those things were that mich powerful. Bit now after 130 years the plan leaked has actually happened ... however u can choose to keep denying till they get what they want

 

[Lincoln]

well if you do your research...you will easily find this.....look at the pattern in the Muslim World? Hypocrites in charge...one by one destroying all these countries.....only a few left?

by the way not trying to scare monger - current global situation is 'divide and conquer'. Might is right?

Media is the most powerful tool in the world.....and increasingly controlled by zionist outlets....

The good guys are being seen as bad ....the bad as being seen as good.....

for instance freedom fighters.....labelled as terrorists etc....

Also please don't right this off as a conspiracy thing......its not!


its finding a rationale solution to Pakistan's problems.......

Not even remotely true. Us thinking that so-called "Muslim World" (no such thing as this) is here because of a secret group of people who somehow manage to control everything influential in this world, then I don't think we, as people, are going to come out of our problems anytime soon.

 

[PurAzamBaHadaf]

If you want me to believe that some secret group of people controls the Media companies, people in charge, countries, and banks, then I am not believing it.

No one is asking you to believe it. Just do your own research and you will believe it yourself if you are good comprehending the implicit meaning.