Kashmir Issue : Our options & possible Course of Action

[Foxtrot Delta]

This will also give the world an impression that pakistan is not greedy for land. And really is a supporter of muslims of kashmir. Its an awesome idea but will it be workes upon by pakistan? Is it practicle? Will somone let go of a province let go of something that is under ur control??

Has it ever been done in history?

pakistan can give full army which today called
Azad Kashmir Regiment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azad_Kashmir_Regiment

Thats because once upon a time it was azad kashmir army.. it was annexed into pakistani army later on to avoid something similar that happened to east pakistan ( Bangladesh)

Imran bhai Allah ka waste samjna ki koshih karo

The part of Kashmir we have is not feasible to be a country based on Geography, Economy and Political grounds you will be required to add Gilgit-Baltistan part to it make it feasible do you know what would that mean ....???

Additionally Do you think A new army from this region would be able stand in front of Indian Army .... ??

and after making it an Independent country on what basis would you keep Pak army to support them as you suggested .... ???

After this on what basis we would claim to be relevant party of this dispute ..... ???

Would India give up her claim on the territories on that new formed country ....???

this will be equivalent to the blunder Palestinians and Arabs did to Palestinian Cause ..... and get ready to accept India as Israel of this region after this ....

If united nations is its garantor it is possible.. Just like Switzerland.

 

[Imran Khan]

Imran bhai Allah ka waste samjna ki koshih karo

The part of Kashmir we have is not feasible to be a country based on Geography, Economy and Political grounds you will be required to add Gilgit-Baltistan part to it make it feasible do you know what would that mean ....???

Additionally Do you think A new army from this region would be able stand in front of Indian Army .... ??

and after making it an Independent country on what basis would you keep Pak army to support them as you suggested .... ???

After this on what basis we would claim to be relevant party of this dispute ..... ???

Would India give up her claim on the territories on that new formed country ....???

this will be equivalent to the blunder Palestinians and Arabs did to Palestinian Cause ..... and get ready to accept India as Israel of this region after this ....

sir it will be bigger then some 50 countries on earth
we will shift azad kashmir regiment first and then kashmir army can start growing
we can keep army there as mutual agreement of two countries dozens of countries today hosting foreign armies
we will be part as our GB will be under india still
india will be in deep mess then just think another free country whom land grabbed by india .

Too late for that now. It's wishful thinking if you think India would give up an inch of their territory.

wrong india even now ready to give up valley sir

 

[SIPRA]

After discussing this "Solid" option for Kashmir, a thread entitled "A Liquid Option for Kashmir" shall also be opened.

 

[Imran Khan]

This will also give the world an impression that pakistan is not greedy for land. And really is a supporter of muslims of kashmir. Its an awesome idea but will it be workes upon by pakistan? Is it practicle? Will somone let go of a province let go of something that is under ur control??

Has it ever been done in history?




Thats because once upon a time it was azad kashmir army.. it was annexed into pakistani army later on to avoid something similar that happened to east pakistan ( Bangladesh)



If united nations is its garantor it is possible.. Just like Switzerland.

we can rise kashmir army again they will have too much aid from international community too

After discussing this "Solid" option for Kashmir, a thread entitled "A Liquid Option for Kashmir" shall also be opened.

wo to pehly se hi hai sir

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

we can rise kashmir army again they will have too much aid from international community too


wo to pehly se hi hai sir

Such a small country wont need aid. It can be a country with just police force. A country like Switzerland or other tiny euro nations. United nations and international law will protrct it just like bhutan and nepal and Switzerland and other tiny nations are protected by imternational law.

 

[R2D2]

I doubt Indian Muslims would do this because its their "motherland".

Plz try to understand that this is a serious topic and there is no space for trolls. Make your jokes about you Abdullah the western slave

 

[Meengla]

In India, the feeling is that you are just interested in the land and not the people. When Swaran Singh offered a significant part of the valley to Bhutto in 1963 or so - Bhutto should have accepted and we would not be in the perpetual state of enmity.

I don't know what, if anything was offered to ZAB then. But why not offer again something?

And then between 1972 (Shimla Accord) and 1989, you had a free hand in Kashmir. There was relative peace and prosperity. Bollywood movies were made there. Until your myopic leadership screwed up in 1989, resulting in a bloody decade long insurgency. Then you got another chance, thanks to the stupid Talibans and the Arab terrorists, when Pakistan had to scale back its support. That time should have been utilized to gain back the confidence of Kashmiris. But, no, your leadership is myopic, small-hearted, and frankly blood-thirsty. You guys have a history of very brutal massacres of Muslims--thank God they sort of stopped after the Gujrat 2004--and Sikhs (1984).

At least Pakistanis here recognize our mistakes. In your blogsphere and your media--you guys $hit marble!!

Finally, one thing be absolutely clear to Indians: Pakistanis care as much for the people as they care for the land/water in IoK. It pains every Pakistani to see the plight of the Kashmiris. Indians, on the other hand, often publicly glee over the loss of even civilians killed in Kashmir. You guys are becoming less and less a Dharmic nation and more and more in the mold of the Nazis and the Israelis. The West has much good. Mostly good. But it has also produced Nazis, Fascists, Israelis, and brutal communists. And you are becoming the copy-cat of them unless you stop and go back to your roots, which are in the Subcontinent.

 

[HRK]

I think you guys entirely misunderstood his point. It is a truly tactical move. Here are the implications.

1. Pakistan Army will remain there, all defence forces will remain.
2. Azad Kashmir will remain under Pakistan's nuclear umbrella to safeguard it.
3. It will be the Kashmiri people themselves who will be directly involved in their stakes now, they can take it internationally and diplomatically.
4. It will allow them to build their own Armed Forces.
5. The idea that neither of the two people own the land but are fighting over it will be dead. Since now it will be Kashmiris directly on an international stage and with Pakistan's backing.
6. Psychological effect on India, and people of IOK. Imagine... an Azad Kashmir right next to India and India cannot do shit about it.

That's my take on it.

these are just sweet dreams .... nothing more

just answer a simple query as per suggestion If we have to provide our armed force with Nuclear Umbrella to them and would have to fight and defend them than what is wrong in current situation ..... ???

what benefit does this suggestion offer to us ....???

How is it even different and how would it relief us from our current obligations towards Kashmir ....???

 

[Umar Nazir]

I think most Pak supporters also know that China will not start a war on behalf of pakistan

china have their own interest in ladakh, they will start war for their self

 

[SIPRA]

This proposed "Solid" Kashmir, would first get converted into "Liquid" Kashmir, after receiving some thermal energy, and at the last stage would become "Gaseous" Kashmir.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Plz try to understand that this is a serious topic and there is no space for trolls. Make your jokes about you Abdullah the western slave

You don't believe me?

 

[war&peace]

pakistan should declare azad Kashmir a full flag free country and ask allies to recognize it if we can arrange Taliban like creatures to be recognized why can't a best place laki Kashmir ?

with passport - currency - flag they already have - prime minister - president - and a full scale country lets stand front . and let Kashmirs build own army and power . its high time they should takeover we just support them .

and keep our forces there as a friendly country until kashmir republic need them .

WTF...

 

[PakSword]

As a first step, Pakistan should announce mandatory military training for all Kashmiri Citizens of certain age.
The announcement alone will demonstrate intent as well as...a positive, reassuring and morale boosting message to Occupied Kashmiri freedom activists and population. @waz @Mangus Ortus Novem

Mandatory training for all Pakistanis is required.

 

[HRK]

If united nations is its garantor it is possible.. Just like Switzerland.

same like UN resolutions ..... hahahahaha

 

[Philip the Arab]

Mandatory training for all Pakistanis is required.

Women shouldn't be spared either. Set up training camps with all women staff. Think like the Jews in terms of conscription.