Kashmir civilian deaths: Locals say ‘indiscriminate’ firing by forces led to high casualties

[HAIDER]

What does not carrying weapons mean?

They have killed police and military personnel using stones and other means.

Police and army cannot be mere spectators or just drop their arms and get killed. They have right to defend themselves and responsibility to protect other peace loving civilians.

They are doing peaceful protesters. Why use of force, beyond my understanding. 7 millions armed soldiers deploy to kill the democratic voices.

 

[BHarwana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1074268560418111488

 

[BringHarmony]

I respect the services of your family but Police and army have a right to defend themselves and responsibility to protect other peace loving civilians.

Civilians rioting is NOT a national security issue, it is a civil disorder issue and should be fixed by police and LEA. There is a reason why police and even SWAT teams carry handcuffs but not Army. Army is not there to arrest and negotiate with rioters. They are simply not trained and equipped for that. They are trained for one thing: To destroy and kill the enemy. Simple.
You don't send the army to deal with civilians demonstrating or even rioting, much less stationing army permanently in cities. If you do then it looks like what Pakistani are calling it: an occupation. You don't want to do that. Not with your own people.

 

[HalfMoon]

They are doing peaceful protesters. Why use of force, beyond my understanding. 7 millions armed soldiers deploy to kill the democratic voices.

These are anything but peaceful protesters. They have been killing police and army personnel.


Army jawan killed in stone pelting, 2 more soldiers dead in encounters

M Saleem Pandit| TNN | Updated: Oct 27, 2018, 02:50 IST




HIGHLIGHTS

• Sepoy Rajendra Singh was injured by stones hurled at him by a mob in Anantnag district last evening and succumbed to injuries on Friday
• He was a part of the Quick Reaction Team which was providing security to a BRO convoy on the highway

TNN file photo, used for representation
SRINAGAR: A 22-year-old soldier sepoy Rajendra Singh, who was injured by stones hurled at him by a mob on the national highway in Anantnag district last evening, succumbed on Friday.

Singh was a part of the Quick Reaction Team (QRT) which was providing security to a Border Roads Organisation (BRO) convoy on the highway. “At around 6pm, when the convoy was passing through the Anantnag bypass tri-junction near NH-44, few youths hurled stones at the vehicle and Singh was injured after being hit by a stone directly on the head. He was provided immediate first aid and evacuated to 92 Base Hospital but unfortunately succumbed to the injury,” army spokesman Col Rajesh Kalia said.

Singh was from village Badena in Pithoragarh in Uttrakhand and had joined the Army in 2016. He is survived by his parents.
Separately, two more soldiers were killed in two separate terror attacks. Lance NaikBrajesh Kumar (32) succumbed to his splinter injuries on Friday during an operation in which two terrorists were also killed in Malgunipura, Sopore. Kumar, a native of Nanawin in Una district of Himachal Pradesh, had joined the Army in 2004. He is survived by his wife and a daughter, the spokesman added.
In another incident, Sepoy Ngamsiamliana was killed when terrorists attacked an army camp at Luragam village of Tral in Pulwama on Thursday. The 23-year-old sepoy from Rengtekawn in Mizoram had joined the Army in 2013. He is survived by his parents.
Two terrorists were killed in an encounter with security forces in Pazalpora area of Dangiwacha in Sopore area of north Kashmir’s Baramulla district on Friday. Police said four terrorists had been killed in the district in two operations since Thursday.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-one-stoned-to-death/articleshow/66384392.cms


J&K police officer killed by militants, colleagues say he was desperate to meet parents
The killings appear to be part of the growing trend in the valley, where militants are targetting either police officers or their families.
Express Web Desk |New Delhi |Updated: October 28, 2018 8:28:53 pm

The killing comes just days after an Indian Army soldier succumbed to injuries of stone pelting while on patrol duty.
A J&K Police sub-inspector was killed by militants in Pulwama district in south Kashmir on Sunday. Identified as Imtiyaz Ahmad Mir, the police officer was abducted before being shot dead by militants at Wahibug.


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Mir’s colleagues told PTI that he was desperate to meet his parents despite knowing that militants had laid a trap for him in his village. Mir had even shaved off his beard to change his appearance, a police officer said.

Posted in the CID department, Mir had been warned against venturing into his village as there was a possibility of an attack by militant groups, who have been targeting policemen in the state recently. “I had told him that he should not go as militants could attack. But he was desperate to see his parents who reside at Sontabugh in the interiors of Pulwama district,” recalled one of his supervising officers.

Mir is survived by his father and mother. Son of a retired police officer, Mir had served in Ganderbal district of South Kashmir for five years before being transferred to Kulgam district last year. A dedicated police officer, Mir was shifted to CID department in March this year.

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...d-and-killed-by-militants-in-pulwama-5422341/

One tourist killed, two injured in J&K stone pelting

M Saleem Pandit| TNN | Updated: May 8, 2018, 08:56 IST



HIGHLIGHTS

• The tourist was killed and two members of his family were injured when their cab was attacked by stone-pelters on Srinagar-Gulmarg highway
• The stone-pelters were protesting against the killing of five Hizbul Mujahideen terrorists in an encounter

Protesters hurl stones at security personnel

SRINAGAR: A 22-year-old tourist from Tamil Nadu was killed and two members of his family, including his mother, were injured when their cab was attacked by a group of stone-pelters at Narbal on the Srinagar-Gulmarg highway on Monday. Nearly half a dozen vehicles were attacked by the stone-pelters.

The stone-pelters were protesting against the killing of five Hizbul Mujahideen terrorists in an encounter in Shopian on Sunday. The victim, identified as R Thirumani from Chennai, succumbed to head injuries in Sher-e-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences at Soura on the outskirts of Srinagar. The family had arrived here on Sunday and was on its way to Gulmarg when it was attacked.

Jammu & Kashmir chief minister Mehbooba Mufti rushed to hospital to console the tourists. “Stone-pelters threw stones on our cab and Thirumani was hit in the head that resulted in his death,” a sobbing Rajwali, father of the deceased, told Mehbooba.

The joint resistance leadership (JRL) of Syed Ali Geelani, Mirwaiz Umer Farooq and Yasin Malik had called for a three-day shutdown and protests across Kashmir valley soon after the killing of five Hizbul terrorists and five stone-pelters at Badigam in Shopian on Sunday.

"We have registered a case under FIR Number 57/2018 in Magam police station and investigation into the attack has been initiated. Culprits will be nabbed soon," a senior police officer said.

The attack on the tourists comes just five days after tourists were attacked by stone-pelters in south Kashmir. One of the tourists, Ritu Devi from Mumbai, who was severely injured, also sustained head injuries in the attack. In another attack at the same spot in Narbal, a 19-year-old Kashmiri girl identified as Sabreena from Handwara was injured when the group of rowdies pelted stones on the passing vehicles.

TOI has been reporting attacks on tourists by stone-pelters. The J&K tourism department, however, has denied these attacks.


My head hangs in shame: Mehbooba Mufti




On the killing of the tourist, J&K chief minister Mehbooba Mufti said, “My head hangs in shame. It is very sad and heartbreaking.”




Former J&K chief minister Omar Abdullah tweeted, “We’ve killed a tourist by throwing stones at the vehicle he was travelling in. Let’s try and wrap our heads around the fact that we stoned a tourist, a guest, to death while we glorify these stone-pelters & their methods,” Omar said, “I pray she (victim’s mother) & others injured make a quick recovery.”





This young man from Chennai died in my constituency & while I don’t support these goons, their methods or their ide… https://t.co/Ez867Xk2ob

— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) 1525712128000


I’m also pained to know that among the injured from the stone pelting in Narbal is a young woman from Handwara in N… https://t.co/Af97hTWp7P

— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) 1525712301000


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-in-jk-stone-pelting/articleshow/64071088.cms

 

[Tom M]

Fu.k you ..ugly, slimy cu.t. Come meet me chicken shit. You're happy to see innocent civilians murdered. Coward, you and your whole kind will get it soon enough, rat.

And does those who throw innocents from choppers live qualify to be Cowards ??? If not, I will take your comment as a compliment.

 

[HAIDER]

Civilians rioting is NOT a national security issue, it is a civil disorder issue and should be fixed by police and LEA. There is a reason why police and even SWAT teams carry handcuffs but not Army. Army is not there to arrest and negotiate with rioters. They are simply not trained and equipped for that. They are trained for one thing: To destroy and kill the enemy. Simple.
You don't send the army to deal with civilians demonstrating or even rioting, much less stationing army permanently in cities. If you do then it looks like what Pakistani are calling it: an occupation. You don't want to do that. Not with your own people.

Use of army means alot. It shows Indian police surrendered and central to involve army. When army involve it worst sign and huge change in ground reality.

 

[HalfMoon]

Civilians rioting is NOT a national security issue, it is a civil disorder issue and should be fixed by police and LEA. There is a reason why police and even SWAT teams carry handcuffs but not Army. Army is not there to arrest and negotiate with rioters. They are simply not trained and equipped for that. They are trained for one thing: To destroy and kill the enemy. Simple.
You don't send the army to deal with civilians demonstrating or even rioting, much less stationing army permanently in cities. If you do then it looks like what Pakistani are calling it: an occupation. You don't want to do that. Not with your own people.

And what will you do when civilians, police and army men themselves are being killed by these stone pelters?

 

[HAIDER]

These are anything but peaceful protesters. They have been killing police and army personnel.


Army jawan killed in stone pelting, 2 more soldiers dead in encounters

M Saleem Pandit| TNN | Updated: Oct 27, 2018, 02:50 IST




HIGHLIGHTS

• Sepoy Rajendra Singh was injured by stones hurled at him by a mob in Anantnag district last evening and succumbed to injuries on Friday
• He was a part of the Quick Reaction Team which was providing security to a BRO convoy on the highway

TNN file photo, used for representation
SRINAGAR: A 22-year-old soldier sepoy Rajendra Singh, who was injured by stones hurled at him by a mob on the national highway in Anantnag district last evening, succumbed on Friday.

Singh was a part of the Quick Reaction Team (QRT) which was providing security to a Border Roads Organisation (BRO) convoy on the highway. “At around 6pm, when the convoy was passing through the Anantnag bypass tri-junction near NH-44, few youths hurled stones at the vehicle and Singh was injured after being hit by a stone directly on the head. He was provided immediate first aid and evacuated to 92 Base Hospital but unfortunately succumbed to the injury,” army spokesman Col Rajesh Kalia said.

Singh was from village Badena in Pithoragarh in Uttrakhand and had joined the Army in 2016. He is survived by his parents.
Separately, two more soldiers were killed in two separate terror attacks. Lance NaikBrajesh Kumar (32) succumbed to his splinter injuries on Friday during an operation in which two terrorists were also killed in Malgunipura, Sopore. Kumar, a native of Nanawin in Una district of Himachal Pradesh, had joined the Army in 2004. He is survived by his wife and a daughter, the spokesman added.
In another incident, Sepoy Ngamsiamliana was killed when terrorists attacked an army camp at Luragam village of Tral in Pulwama on Thursday. The 23-year-old sepoy from Rengtekawn in Mizoram had joined the Army in 2013. He is survived by his parents.
Two terrorists were killed in an encounter with security forces in Pazalpora area of Dangiwacha in Sopore area of north Kashmir’s Baramulla district on Friday. Police said four terrorists had been killed in the district in two operations since Thursday.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-one-stoned-to-death/articleshow/66384392.cms


J&K police officer killed by militants, colleagues say he was desperate to meet parents
The killings appear to be part of the growing trend in the valley, where militants are targetting either police officers or their families.
Express Web Desk |New Delhi |Updated: October 28, 2018 8:28:53 pm

The killing comes just days after an Indian Army soldier succumbed to injuries of stone pelting while on patrol duty.
A J&K Police sub-inspector was killed by militants in Pulwama district in south Kashmir on Sunday. Identified as Imtiyaz Ahmad Mir, the police officer was abducted before being shot dead by militants at Wahibug.


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Mir’s colleagues told PTI that he was desperate to meet his parents despite knowing that militants had laid a trap for him in his village. Mir had even shaved off his beard to change his appearance, a police officer said.

Posted in the CID department, Mir had been warned against venturing into his village as there was a possibility of an attack by militant groups, who have been targeting policemen in the state recently. “I had told him that he should not go as militants could attack. But he was desperate to see his parents who reside at Sontabugh in the interiors of Pulwama district,” recalled one of his supervising officers.

Mir is survived by his father and mother. Son of a retired police officer, Mir had served in Ganderbal district of South Kashmir for five years before being transferred to Kulgam district last year. A dedicated police officer, Mir was shifted to CID department in March this year.

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...d-and-killed-by-militants-in-pulwama-5422341/

One tourist killed, two injured in J&K stone pelting

M Saleem Pandit| TNN | Updated: May 8, 2018, 08:56 IST



HIGHLIGHTS

• The tourist was killed and two members of his family were injured when their cab was attacked by stone-pelters on Srinagar-Gulmarg highway
• The stone-pelters were protesting against the killing of five Hizbul Mujahideen terrorists in an encounter

Protesters hurl stones at security personnel

SRINAGAR: A 22-year-old tourist from Tamil Nadu was killed and two members of his family, including his mother, were injured when their cab was attacked by a group of stone-pelters at Narbal on the Srinagar-Gulmarg highway on Monday. Nearly half a dozen vehicles were attacked by the stone-pelters.

The stone-pelters were protesting against the killing of five Hizbul Mujahideen terrorists in an encounter in Shopian on Sunday. The victim, identified as R Thirumani from Chennai, succumbed to head injuries in Sher-e-Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences at Soura on the outskirts of Srinagar. The family had arrived here on Sunday and was on its way to Gulmarg when it was attacked.

Jammu & Kashmir chief minister Mehbooba Mufti rushed to hospital to console the tourists. “Stone-pelters threw stones on our cab and Thirumani was hit in the head that resulted in his death,” a sobbing Rajwali, father of the deceased, told Mehbooba.

The joint resistance leadership (JRL) of Syed Ali Geelani, Mirwaiz Umer Farooq and Yasin Malik had called for a three-day shutdown and protests across Kashmir valley soon after the killing of five Hizbul terrorists and five stone-pelters at Badigam in Shopian on Sunday.

"We have registered a case under FIR Number 57/2018 in Magam police station and investigation into the attack has been initiated. Culprits will be nabbed soon," a senior police officer said.

The attack on the tourists comes just five days after tourists were attacked by stone-pelters in south Kashmir. One of the tourists, Ritu Devi from Mumbai, who was severely injured, also sustained head injuries in the attack. In another attack at the same spot in Narbal, a 19-year-old Kashmiri girl identified as Sabreena from Handwara was injured when the group of rowdies pelted stones on the passing vehicles.

TOI has been reporting attacks on tourists by stone-pelters. The J&K tourism department, however, has denied these attacks.


My head hangs in shame: Mehbooba Mufti




On the killing of the tourist, J&K chief minister Mehbooba Mufti said, “My head hangs in shame. It is very sad and heartbreaking.”




Former J&K chief minister Omar Abdullah tweeted, “We’ve killed a tourist by throwing stones at the vehicle he was travelling in. Let’s try and wrap our heads around the fact that we stoned a tourist, a guest, to death while we glorify these stone-pelters & their methods,” Omar said, “I pray she (victim’s mother) & others injured make a quick recovery.”





This young man from Chennai died in my constituency & while I don’t support these goons, their methods or their ide… https://t.co/Ez867Xk2ob

— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) 1525712128000


I’m also pained to know that among the injured from the stone pelting in Narbal is a young woman from Handwara in N… https://t.co/Af97hTWp7P

— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) 1525712301000


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-in-jk-stone-pelting/articleshow/64071088.cms

Average death of 1 security VS 5 local deaths and many permanent disable or injured. Why you guys expect , that your govt shoot bullets and they shoot flowers in return. Use of power is biggest intimidation ...

 

[CHACHA"G"]

Nobody will dare to protest (violently) after this sad incident I guess.

The intention to deal with stone pelters seems loud and clear now.

Death to terrorist Indian Army . How many innocent Kashmiri will you kill ?
Kashmir banay ga Pakistan.

 

[BringHarmony]

And what will you do when civilians, police and army men themselves are being killed by these stone pelters?

You send many many companies of SWAT, federal police force, police force from other provinces to control these miscreants. It's their duty to arrest and detain those who are rioting or disturbing civil life. If the police force is being surrounded then they can defend themselves. But you don't deploy army against civilians. Doing that means you want to simply kill civilians and not even detain them.

 

[hussain0216]

And what will you do when civilians, police and army men themselves are being killed by these stone pelters?

Maybe understand and accept why these people are so enraged at your occupation

And give them the democratic right yo choosh thrir future

 

[HalfMoon]

You send many many companies of SWAT, federal police force, police force from other provinces to control these miscreants. It's their duty to arrest and detain those who are rioting or disturbing civil life. If the police force is being surrounded then they can defend themselves. But you don't deploy army against civilians. Doing that means you want to simply kill civilians and not detain them.

They have all been tried. Stone pelters have been killing civilians, police and army personnel for almost a decade now with impunity because of the kid glove treatment by the government of India. It is time the government take some serious actions to end this tamasha once for all.

Maybe understand and accept why these people are so enraged at your occupation

And give them the democratic right yo choosh thrir future

They are not enraged. They get paid for indulging in stone pelting. These are professionally trained stone pelters. They act as the cover for the armed militants to carry out the killings.

 

[BringHarmony]

They have all been tried. Stone pelters have been killing civilians, police and army personnel for almost a decade now with impunity because of the kid glove treatment by the government of India. It is time the government take some serious actions to end this tamasha once for all.

That means you don't have enough police force in the region or you have not properly trained them or you have not equipped them. How can untrained and poorly equipped civilians ever subdue police forces?

Also, if civilians are doing unrest for a decade that means something else is broken at a very fundamental level. Civilians usually want to live their lives, work, go home to their families. Rioting for 10 years or more is a symptom for something else extremely broken somewhere.

 

[Unite & Defend]

lol coming from those who use fighter plane on own civilians.

Punit the shoe shiner, got a view, laughable.

 

[HalfMoon]

Maybe understand and accept why these people are so enraged at your occupation

And give them the democratic right yo choosh thrir future

As I said earlier, if people are unhappy they are welcome to leave India.

India is not forcing them to live in India like China is doing to Uyghurs in East Turkestan.

That means you don't have enough police force in the region or you have not properly trained them or you have not equipped them. How can untrained and poorly equipped civilians ever subdue police forces?

Also, if civilians are doing unrest for a decade that means something else is broken at a very fundamental level. Civilians usually want to live their lives, work, go home to their families. Rioting for 10 years or more is a symptom for something else extremely broken somewhere.

Stone pelters not some random emotional civilians. These are professionally trained to act as a cover and protect the armed militants.